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O M FG!!!! VENT VENT AND MOREEEEE VENT!

PeteysBride Posted:

O M FG!!!! VENT VENT AND MOREEEEE VENT!

Ok so this is my official feel sorry for myself thread… After this I will pick myself up and dust myself off as I usually do and give myself that kick in the pants that keeps me going. But right now I needed to vent because sadly I don’t have friends that are not DH’s friends too.

Everyone knows I was supposed to be starting a math class this week at another school in the CUNY Universities system that was not my home school. Well I went on Monday and found out they have a diff curriculum; they start from Chapter 7 instead of Chapter 1 because they are far more advanced-they have different pre reqs than Lehman does.

So long story short, I needed to drop the class and was not allowed to take the lower level class in its place because I was on an E Permit; essentially “on loan” from Lehman so I had to go back to Lehman.

After crying out my dissapointment all day Monday, I went off on Tuesday to get my moola back and try and take it at John Jay which is supposedly equivalent. After a LONG DAY of running around (Y’all know from your own school days what its like dealing with offices!) I talk to the math Chairman at MY home school (Lehman) and ask if I could just take the class next semester at Baruch after I study with a tutor for the first 7 chapters. He said no. Not at Baruch, not at any other school BUT Lehman.

I asked why? He claimed because NO other schools are equivalent, even Montclair State which is where I wanted to go because it’s a phenomenal school. Saying Lehman is better than Montclair or even on par with it is like comparing community school to NYU. So I tried reasoning with him and he refused, despite the fact HELLO I live in NEW JERSEY and going from the Bronx where the school is to NJ takes me 3 hours because of public transportation and that’s not counting the hour it takes me to get there from the city.

He refused to be budged so I went to the Dean who was sympathetic and agreed that he is being ridiculous. I need SIX credits to graduate ladies..SIX! They have to be math credits but otherwise I AM DONE! And this wicked man refuses to allow me to do them anywhere that will be convenient. I offered to go running to every school I am considering and bringing him all the syllabuses and he refuses. Midn you, I am an A frickin student..some B’s it is true when I am lazy but generally considering I have been working full time for virtually my ENTIRE degree and taking night classes, I do well!

I’m not some piece of trash off the street. I speak well, I articulate well, and I dress better than his sorry butt! Slacks and a fitted blouse, not skin tight jeans and lipliner that matches my eyeliner. But he is this racist @ss that clumps everyone together. He treats us all like we are some ghetto folk and refuses to LISTEN. He thinks he is the Supreme Being and the be all end all. I hope he chokes on his lettuce salad with red paper flakes tomorrow...

ALL the professors and the Dean agree he is a douche bag (and has been for 4 decades they all said) but there is nothing they can do because he IS the final say for that department; stupid systems of checks and balances much like our own government.

The latest update is I was urged by the Dean just now to try and bring the syllabuses anyway so I am going to do that, but at this point looks like I will have to trek up to Lehman. He was helpful but used that tone of voice that you know means 'You're a nice girl but I don't want to get further involved so sayanara.'

What makes me angriest is not the commute, but the fact the teachers are SH*TTY! I always tell people that when I graduate, I will use my degree strictly for job related purposes; saying I have it. but it means nothing to me because the curriculm was such BS. I came from Pace University and went there, intending to transfer to Lehman. But long story short I was misadvised and by the time I went to transfer, I had too many credits and it did not benefit me to transfer. So I stayed but I HATE this school!

I am a good girl-maybe a PITA at times personalitywise but I am a good person and a good student and I bust my BUTT! I didn’t deserve this and after two days of crying, I am finally getting mad…

I know I will graduate eventually. Im just angry that they make it SOOO difficult to graduate for people who really want it, and for others (in my own classes so I am speaking personally not generally) who just went because the federal Government paid for them to go, because EVERYONE seems to need a degree these days even if they are basket weavers, skate by with C’s and THEIR degree matters as much as MINE with all A’s….

Fawkin ridiculous!

Sorry..I am done now.

EDITED: To be less offensive to those who were offended by a contextual error. I apologize if I was unclear or if I mispoke. I explain myself further on in my second response. Thanks!
Aug07OFCbride Posted:

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i think you just need some . youre such a good student jenn and i can tell how much this degree means to you. im sorry things didnt work out like you had hoped. sometimes there are bigger plans that we cant understand, but this will somehow work out. i know its not an ideal situation but it will work out. youll graduate and look back on this all and just be proud that you got through it and you can now do what you want with your degree.

MeNBobs Posted:

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Sorry that does suck. All the redtape at Uni and the arse licking is way over the top. But stick with it.

I don't understand why you can't take classes at other school and transfer the credits. My dad teaches at a community college he has students in his class over the summer from Harvard and Princeton so it is done all the time. Can you enroll in a class for this semester at the far away school in will be a pain but just get it over with!!!!
HamptonsBride Posted:

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Sounds like i need to go down there and kick some a$$ for you!!!!!! I am sorry this guy is being such a **** to you...you sound like you have a bit of the black cloud that's been hanging around me most my life...hang in there girl!!!!!!
MrsQ-in2007 Posted:

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Jenn, I didn't know you were going through all of this!! This guy is DEFINITELY being a d*ckwad!!! I hate it when people that have any kind of power think they're the be all, end all and refuse to budge or listen to reason!!!!

I know you live FARRRR from Lehman and I really hope he lets you take it somewhere else so that you can finally freaking graduate! I believe in the power of prayer, so I will that he sees reason and lets you take this class elsewhere and that he doesn't drive you crazy!

joshisgirl Posted:

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wow, i'm so sorry that you're going through this! but u know the saying; don't get mad, get even. now, that brings us to finding out where he lives, some poop in a bag, and matches.

ok, seriously it does s uck and the whole cuny system on a whole i think s ucks also. i mean some colleges are definitely great and they are VERY reasonably priced but they are not at all good on trying to work with you (and, i've attended 3 different CUNY's) and they sometimes just try to make ur life harder than it already is. BUT, don;t cry please!! just think 6 credits from now you'll finally have that diploma!
HeatherRose Posted:

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wow!! I'm so sorry you have to go through this Jenn. I don't have any advice since i know nothing about the schools and how they work with that. Good luck and keep your chin up, it will all work out, it always does!!!
GraceAndAdam Posted:

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That really *****! I know what a pain colleges can be and how they can drive their students crazy!!! I'm not very familiar with the CUNY system though, so I don't have much advice. The only thing I can say is you'll get through it! Was the main reason you dropped the class because it was more advanced than you expected? That's not right of the school to not specifically describe the course in the student handbook! They should have told you it would be harder! It ***** that you will have to wait until next semester to take it now. I know the feeling of just wanting your degree already! good luck!
jtgarsik Posted:

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Posted by Aug07OFCbride

i think you just need some . youre such a good student jenn and i can tell how much this degree means to you. im sorry things didnt work out like you had hoped. sometimes there are bigger plans that we cant understand, but this will somehow work out. i know its not an ideal situation but it will work out. youll graduate and look back on this all and just be proud that you got through it and you can now do what you want with your degree.




well said jess.....we love u jenn & we're all here for you! things happen for a reason whether we understand why or not....hang in there!
dancerandchef Posted:

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Jenn,
We are so sorry to hear about this. That is totally fustrating. I mean why can't they have the courses that you need to take in order to graduated available at the school that you are attending? Here are some hugs. Feel better.

~dancer and chef~
charlotte and michael
diva7531 Posted:

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So sorry that you are not getting what you need, hope it works out for you

Jennifer907 Posted:

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Sorry Jenn. It totally stinks and is not fair. But it WILL work out. You WILL graduate and YOU WILL make a difference in someone's life because you worked your rear off for that degree! You're so close now. Good luck sweetie!
cookiemonster Posted:

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Jenn, I'm sorry that you're stuck dealing with this because it really sounds like this guy is a PITA and he's definitely not making your life easy for you. I really hope you find a solution that works for you soon because I know that you really want to be done and this is all that's standing in your way, and that since math is a touchy subject with you to begin with I'm sure you were more than a little anxious going into this even before the inconvenience started.

However, I really don't think that any of this has to do with the fact that this guy happens to be Jewish. A$$holes and racists come in all flavors. I'm sorry you're dealing with one and feeling like you are being stereotyped because you don't deserve it. But calling him out for being Jewish isn't fair. Sorry, JMO. But I really do hope things get worked out so you can finish up where you don't have to travel for a million hours just to get there and then have to concentrate through a whole class.

PeteysBride Posted:

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Posted by cookiemonster

Jenn, I'm sorry that you're stuck dealing with this because it really sounds like this guy is a PITA and he's definitely not making your life easy for you. I really hope you find a solution that works for you soon because I know that you really want to be done and this is all that's standing in your way, and that since math is a touchy subject with you to begin with I'm sure you were more than a little anxious going into this even before the inconvenience started.

However, I really don't think that any of this has to do with the fact that this guy happens to be Jewish. A$$holes and racists come in all flavors. I'm sorry you're dealing with one and feeling like you are being stereotyped because you don't deserve it. But calling him out for being Jewish isn't fair. Sorry, JMO. But I really do hope things get worked out so you can finish up where you don't have to travel for a million hours just to get there and then have to concentrate through a whole class.




Thanks girls. I love y'all too. It will work out. Not the way I want it too maybe, but it's just six more credits and then BUH BYE Lehman!!!!

Cat I did want to take it at a diff school-Montclair State in NJ but he isn't letting me. He is being pig-headed for the sake of it and nothing else. Everyone knwos it; Registrars office was sympathetic as was the Dean but they can't overrule him. They can just 'recommend' he allow me to take the classes at other schools. THIS is why I want to be an AP in school when I graduate and after I teach a few years; because too much crappy administration around.

Cookie, the reason I called him out for being racist is because HE IS racist-has nothing to do with the afct he is Jewish. he just happens to be a jewish man who IS a racist and I am not talking out of my butt but rather from the lips of his professional peers who let things drop from time to time. I used to work in the offices and you'd be amazed at what you learn when they think fo you as a wall. I am not the firt student nor will I be the last to get treated this way. He seems to look down on all of the students but minorities the worst. Its like because we're in an urban area, we're all automatically 'street' and not worth his time.

He's not the only one-I had an advisor-Hispanic guy- tell me I was stupid and he didn't think I belonged in the school...mind you this was ONE semester where I had a hard time and had taken a medical leave of absence..I was a 3.8 GPA student but because the classes weren't withdrawn properly I was droped to a 1.somethign average. I needed to appeal and I won, but the school is full of crude, ignorant people of all shapes, and colors.

My commentary on the Chair wasn't meant to be offensive, just an identifier. he could have been a raicst black man, or hispanic or asian man. However he wasn't- He IS Jewish and I would have hoped you would know me well enough by now to to get all defensive over a comment simply becasue it had the word Jew in it.

He's the prejucided one, not the other way around.

Again I apologize that you took offense but it was not meant to be that way. Emotions dont transfer through the comp which is somethign we have to remember when reading AND typind responses. I am sorry if anyone took offense and did edit my post.
cookiemonster Posted:

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Posted by PeteysBride

He's the prejucided one, not the other way around.




I agree and did not mean to imply otherwise. I misinterpreted your use of the term as an identifier and was left wondering what his religion had to do with anything. I now understand what you were trying to say.

One of the harshest things a person can do is call someone a racist - it's something with immensely hurtful consequences that is not to be taken lightly. It sounds like the guy you're dealing with more than deserves that title, but you don't. For anyone who thought that's what I was getting at, I apologize.

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