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annullment/divorce question

kdelace Posted:

annullment/divorce question

if you are granted an annullment- which makes your marriage void... do you still have to get a divorce? i was always confused about that... i know an anullment means you are able to remarry in the catholic church... any info would help....

btrflygrl Posted:

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it's either or....a divorce declares the marriage occurred....an annullment basically 'erases' it from all aspects, inluding legal etc. I think there is a time frame/circumstances that contribute to an annullment.

Also, you can remarry in catholic church with a divorce, you just need to get 'permission' from Rome!
BlondeJD Posted:

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My understanding, which could be incorrect, is that an annullment means the marriage never existed in the first place. So if you're granted one by the court, you don't need to get a divorce since the court is saying you didn't have a marriage in the first place.

Jan05Bride Posted:

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This should answer some questions

HERE

Annulment and Separation FAQ
Learn about these options instead of -- or before -- divorce.

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How does an annulment differ from a divorce?

When are married people considered separated?




How does an annulment differ from a divorce?
Like a divorce, an annulment is a court procedure that dissolves a marriage. But, unlike a divorce, an annulment treats the marriage as though it never happened. For some people, divorce carries a stigma, and they would rather their marriage be annulled. Others prefer an annulment because it may be easier to remarry in their church if they go through an annulment rather than a divorce.

Grounds for annulment vary slightly from state to state. Generally, they may be obtained for one of the following reasons:

Misrepresentation or fraud -- for example, a spouse lied about the capacity to have children, stated that she had reached the age of consent, or failed to say that she was still married to someone else.
Concealment -- for example, concealing an addiction to alcohol or drugs, conviction of a felony, children from a prior relationship, a sexually transmitted disease, or impotency.
Refusal or inability to consummate the marriage -- that is, refusal or inability of a spouse to have sexual intercourse with the other spouse.
Misunderstanding -- for example, one person wanted children and the other did not.
These are the grounds for civil annulments. Within the Roman Catholic Church, a couple may obtain a religious annulment after obtaining a civil divorce, so that one or both people may remarry, within the Church or anywhere else, and have the second union recognized by the Church.
Most annulments take place after a marriage of a very short duration -- a few weeks or months -- so there are usually no assets or debts to divide, or children for whom custody, visitation, and child support are a concern. When a long-term marriage is annulled, however, most states have provisions for dividing property and debts, as well as determining custody, visitation, child support, and alimony. Children of an annulled marriage are not considered illegitimate.

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When are married people considered separated?
Many people are confused about what is meant by 'separated' -- and it's no wonder, given that there are four different kinds of separations:

Trial separation. When a couple lives apart for a test period, to decide whether or not to separate permanently, it's called a trial separation. Even if they don't get back together, the assets they accumulate and debts they incur during the trial period are usually considered jointly owned. This type of separation is usually not legally recognized, but is instead a specific period in a couple's relationship.

Living apart. Spouses who no longer reside in the same dwelling are said to be living apart. In some states, living apart without intending to reunite changes the spouses' property rights. For example, some states consider property accumulated and debts incurred while living apart to be the separate property or debt of the person who accumulated or incurred it. In other states, property is joint unless and until a divorce complaint is filed in court.

Permanent separation. When a couple decides to permanently split up, it's often called a permanent separation. It may follow a trial separation, or may begin immediately when the couple starts living apart. In most states, all assets received and most debts incurred after permanent separation are the separate property or responsibility of the spouse incurring them. However, debts that happen after separation and before divorce are usually joint debts if they are incurred for certain necessities, such as to provide for the children or maintain the marital home. Again, a couple's decision to permanently separate may not be considered a legal one unless one party takes the other to court for support or custody pending a divorce action. This then leads to a state of legal separation.

Legal separation. A legal separation results when the parties separate and a court rules on the division of property, alimony, child support, custody, and visitation -- but does not grant a divorce. The money awarded for support of the spouse and children under these circumstances is often called separate maintenance (as opposed to alimony and child support). In some states, separate maintenance can be obtained with a motion pendente lite, or pending the litigation. Usually a lawyer files this motion. These motions set the tone for what may be awarded in a future divorce judgement
kdelace Posted:

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thank you!
don424 Posted:

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i thought you guys were trying to work things out?

sorry to hear this
dgtlsunshine Posted:

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I hope you are not asking for yourself

Maribelle7777 Posted:

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I think you have to obtain the divorce first.

Boop2704 Posted:

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Whats going on Kristi????
LIJuneBride Posted:

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Actually, you get the divorce first, which means in the eyes of the state you are no longer married. In order to be able to be married again in a Catholic church, you must obtain an annulment. They are not one and the same - they are totally separate.

janwinterbridejoy Posted:

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Posted by LIJuneBride

Actually, you get the divorce first, which means in the eyes of the state you are no longer married. In order to be able to be married again in a Catholic church, you must obtain an annulment. They are not one and the same - they are totally separate.



thats also what i thought
Terrier412 Posted:

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My friend went through this...

first, she had to get a legal divorce. Luckily, her hubby agreed to no fault divorce -- quick and easy.

The day her divorce papers came, she rang the bell at her parish's rectory and said 'I want an annullment...' They really won't even talk to you until you have the paperwork that you are legally divorced. The priest helped her with everything after that -- church paperwork, Canon lawyer, the tribunal, etc.

The entire annulment process took about a year and a half to two years. It was $1000. My friend sold her engagement and wedding rings, paid off the debt her husband racked up in her name, and paid for the annulment.

If you need one 'faster' -- usually because you are remarrying -- it can be done but it is more $$$$$.

If DH's stepmother can get an annulment (to marry DH's dad) after 17 years of marriage, 2 kids, and 11 years divorced -- anyone can.
snowprincess805 Posted:

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There are two different types of annulments - one legal and one from the church

A legal annulment declares the marriage vod and never happened -do not need to get a divorce - they are much harder to get then a divorce - wife can't keep last name usually - only used for specific situations

A catholic annulment - just voids the marriage with the church - would still need a legal annulment or divorce to end the marriage legally

divorce -can get for any reason pretty much - more private proceeding
princess99 Posted:

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My sister went thru this with her first marrage. ( And she is not Cathloic we are Jewish, he was Cathloic) She had no assets with her slimy ex husband, just a bank account, they were renting an apt. Her marriage was under 2 years- it was 16 months when the SOB walked out on her for no reason- he was tired of her. ( can u tell I HATE my ex BIL?!) You can get a annulment from the state if it is under a certain amount of time and there are no assets- like a house etc. It took awhile for all the papers to go thru, but it did and she is now happily married and I like my BIL! Good luck and I hope it all works out for you. Here are some hugs.
marymoon Posted:

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I don;t know, but once again.

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