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Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)

sarahradio5 Posted:

Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)

EVERY holiday... we fight.

Even now... we're in a huge fight, and I really think he's being a jerk about this.

Background: his mom retired, sold her house and moved to Florida into her long term BF's condo early this year. My FH speaks to her about once a week. I really get along well with her, but there has been some drama and a LOT of stress because she hasn't offered to contribute to the wedding, aside from the rehearsal dinner (after initally telling me she'll 'help out' when I told her my dad is working so much OT to pay for the wedding). My parents are giving us our wedding, up to 30,000 - and we're paying the rest (about 20,000). That battle is over and I just have to drop it and know that we're not getting any $ from his mom for the wedding or else we would be fighting all the time. Fine.

We just went food shopping... and I said to him, 'Hey... let's go into Hallmark and get your mom a card so that it gets to her FOR Mother's Day.' Then, I said... what do you want to do... send her flowers for M-day? He shrugged his shoulders. He said, 'How about a Vermont Teddy Bear?'. I said,. 'those are too expensive!'. We went in, and he started looking at cards and picked one in two seconds. I said, 'let's look around... maybe we'll find a few things for your mom and send her a package of goodies'. So, we walked through the aisles and were looking at typical Hallmark stuff... pillows, candles, books, vases, potpourri, plaques, frames, etc. I was looking at a nice 'mom' frame and I asked what he thought of it. He's like, 'what are you buying your mom?'. I told him we were contributing to the Italy fund we set up for them last year. He's like, How much? I said, 'probably 50' (that's standard). He looked at the frame and said, 'whatever... let's get out of here before we have a fight'. I'm like, 'It's not a competition... do you like the frame?'. He walked out of the store. I stayed and found a really nice 'Willow Creek' statue (that I LOVE) with a mother and son, and thought THAt would be nice. I tapped on the glass to ask him what he thought, and he just shrugged and said 'fine'. I bought it. Cut to the end... we're not speaking now because of the fact that I said the Vermont Teddy Bear is too expensive. I didn't mean to not spend that much on his mom... I meant in GENERAL, it's a rip off and a waste of money.

How on EARTH am I being penalized for being the one to suggest sending something nice to his mom? I don't get it....

We fight about every holiday because he says I put my family first. He admitted early in this relationship that holidays don't mean that much to his family... well, they mean the WORLD to me and mine... we're VERY formal with holidays... his family isn't. I am a HOLIDAY FREAK. I refuse to not see my family for a holiday, so we split the day. I spoil his nephews and my nephew and put thought into ALL his family's gifts, like I do mine. But, my family goes NUTS with presents. His family puts a monetary cap on each person't gift. (I don't do that back to his family... I buy all the gifts and buy what I think they would like. Not even WITH my FH... he doesn't do that stuff).

One more thing... his sister is having his nephew's b-day ON Mother's Day, even though their mom is in Florida on Mother's Day! So, I STILL have to split Mother's Day with my mom (who had to change dinner reservations so we can go to the party), even though his mom isn't even here! I didn't think that was fair, either... the b-day could have been Saturday, since it's a week after his real b-day anyway.

Anytime I bring anything up about a holiday, it's a guaranteed argument. I'm so upset...
pavum Posted:

Re: Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)

aww lots of


your frustration is totally understandable!

Any chance you can explain to him that you thought the teddy bears were a rip off and that the frame was a more thoughtful gift? Or is he too mad?

men are amusing -- they don't care about something (holidays for instance) yet they can get so upset over them!


i hope it gets better!
Soon2BeMrs2006 Posted:

Re: Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)

maybe something else is bothering him and he just took it out on you.

sarahradio5 Posted:

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Unfortunately, I did. I was SO pissed at him that he turned something NICE I was trying to do into sh!t. I was - and still will be the one - to go to the post office on MY lunch break to send HIS mom a gift. Yet, I get PENALIZED because I said a stupid Vermont Teddy Bear was TOO expensive. I explained this all to him... but nothing helps. If he apologized to me, I would accept it. But I'm SO pissed he won't even acknowledge that I am the only reason his mom will have ANYTHING for Mom's Day and apologize to me for thinking I meant we shouldn't spend almost 100 on his mom. I bought the $20 Willow Creek, plus we'll probably send flowers... plus shipping to NY. I BET you we end up with $100. And WHO CARES about the amount... she's going to LOVE the Mother/Son Willow Creek figurine! It's beautiful!!!

suven Posted:

Re: Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)

He's probably offended that you thought the Vermont Teddy Bear was too expensive, and then were looking at a less expensive frame, while saying that you're going to put $50 into a travel fund for your mom.

Maybe if you just keep explaining that you don't care how much money he spends, and that you just wanted to make sure he gets the best value for his mom with the money he's spending, he'll get over it.
stlmn2u Posted:

Re: Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)


Posted by sarahradio5

Unfortunately, I did. I was SO pissed at him that he turned something NICE I was trying to do into sh!t. I was - and still will be the one - to go to the post office on MY lunch break to send HIS mom a gift. Yet, I get PENALIZED because I said a stupid Vermont Teddy Bear was TOO expensive. I explained this all to him... but nothing helps. If he apologized to me, I would accept it. But I'm SO pissed he won't even acknowledge that I am the only reason his mom will have ANYTHING for Mom's Day and apologize to me for thinking I meant we shouldn't spend almost 100 on his mom. I bought the 20 Willow Creek, plus we'll probably send flowers... plus shipping to NY. I BET you we end up with 100. And WHO CARES about the amount... she's going to LOVE the Mother/Son Willow Creek figurine! It's beautiful!!!



You are very right about this.....I have 3 Vermont Teddy bears and I totally think they are a waste of money.....My FH sent them to me our first 3 Valentine's Days together....The 1st one I thought it was nice I was 26 yrs old but after the 3rd one I told him not to get them anymore because it was a waste of his money......He got mad at me because I said that....He said I was ungreatful which was not true....I was just trying to save him the money.....As far as holidays with us, I always make sure I get his family whatever they want or ask for as well as my family gifts too.....But when it comes time for me to get gifts they give me crap or they regift some cheap things they've had laying around for years.....I keep telling my FH that it's not fair bc I spend all this money on them and get nothing in return for it.....
NONE of his family gave us any engagement gifts......NOT EVEN A CARD!!!!!
So I know exactly how you feel because we argue about these things all the time.....
sarahradio5 Posted:

Re: Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)


Posted by suven

He's probably offended that you thought the Vermont Teddy Bear was too expensive, and then were looking at a less expensive frame, while saying that you're going to put $50 into a travel fund for your mom.

Maybe if you just keep explaining that you don't care how much money he spends, and that you just wanted to make sure he gets the best value for his mom with the money he's spending, he'll get over it.



I tried. . I know that his mom would even think spending almost 100 on a BEAR would be ridiculous. I mean, I guess my FH's heart is in the right place, but even for me... for V-day.. .he went out V-day morning and bought me all these little chotzkies (sp?)... a cartoon book about doggie love, another V-day book about what love means, a teddy bear, a DVD, flowers and a cd of Wedding Music. He basically did a sweep of the Hallmark aisle. I HATE wasting money... just to buy SOMETHING. If he would have bought me JUST the wedding cd and flowers, I would have been MUCH happier since that's SUCH a meaningful gift. I think his mom would feel the same way about an overpriced teddy bear... compared to the fact that we THOUGHT enough to send her a package to Florida... and it's a beautiful, meaningful figurine symbolizing her and her son. (and she will KNOW I was behind it and appreciate it... I don't know why my FH is killing it).
pavum Posted:

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don't even sweat it anymore!

It's so obvious that you're such an amazing person who puts so much thought into gifts. You're always the one going the extra mile and not being appreciated -- and yet time and time again you'll keep going that extra mile.

all that matters now is that FMIL appreciates the gift -- and i'm sure she'll be more than overjoyed when she sees the flowers and figurine.

don't be sad -- you're doing a really good thing and even if FH can't see it now -- i'm sure he'll realize when his mom calls and thanks you guys for the wonderful gifts

just try and relax and enjoy the weekend!
sarahradio5 Posted:

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Posted by pavum

don't even sweat it anymore!

It's so obvious that you're such an amazing person who puts so much thought into gifts. You're always the one going the extra mile and not being appreciated -- and yet time and time again you'll keep going that extra mile.

all that matters now is that FMIL appreciates the gift -- and i'm sure she'll be more than overjoyed when she sees the flowers and figurine.

don't be sad -- you're doing a really good thing and even if FH can't see it now -- i'm sure he'll realize when his mom calls and thanks you guys for the wonderful gifts

just try and relax and enjoy the weekend!



aw! Thank you so much! You just made me feel better!! I just hope FH realizes this SOON because I HATE being in fights during our entire weekend. Thank you!!!
Preshy7 Posted:

Re: Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)

hi...
first off the vermont teddy bear thing - he shoundt be mad those are way overpriced and not necessary to spend on a parent so that one you win...

however, holidays are sensitive here in my house and one thing that you said struck a chord with me that may make your fh feel less significant:

' I refuse to not see my family for a holiday'

As much as that sounds fine, to me it sounds like what my Dh is like- and im going to play devils advocate here but he is the same way and I know that whenever my family has a holiday or function we are always rushed out of there just to get to his familys house...meanwhile i stay at his family's place for hours upon hours when they have a holiday...and I have given up times when I didnt see my family.....however its much better now i will say.

im just saying just try to at least sound like you want to compromise on the holiday situation..you are geting married so try to maybe alternate...even though your family makes a bigger fuss over holidays and its probably more fun there- try to at least
offer some compromise to make his family things seem just as important

sarahradio5 Posted:

Re: Do you fight with your FH about holidays? (sorry... long)


Posted by Preshy7

hi...
first off the vermont teddy bear thing - he shoundt be mad those are way overpriced and not necessary to spend on a parent so that one you win...

however, holidays are sensitive here in my house and one thing that you said struck a chord with me that may make your fh feel less significant:

' I refuse to not see my family for a holiday'

As much as that sounds fine, to me it sounds like what my Dh is like- and im going to play devils advocate here but he is the same way and I know that whenever my family has a holiday or function we are always rushed out of there just to get to his familys house...meanwhile i stay at his family's place for hours upon hours when they have a holiday...and I have given up times when I didnt see my family.....however its much better now i will say.

im just saying just try to at least sound like you want to compromise on the holiday situation..you are geting married so try to maybe alternate...even though your family makes a bigger fuss over holidays and its probably more fun there- try to at least
offer some compromise to make his family things seem just as important




That's why it's ridiculous... we have even gone now so far as to take TWO cars to our families. For Easter, we got to my family at 2:30. HE left at 5. I left at 6 to go to his sister's (his mom wasn't up for Easter... AND his sister's WHOLE family had a stomach virus, but didn't TELL us, so we were in a sick house, which annoys me to no end). We ended up leaving at 8:30. So, it was TOTALLY even... and we would have stayed longer, if they weren't all friggin SICK! It's just that MY family is completely formal about things (def. FUN, but formal)... so I don't get how he doesn't think it's fair. AND I brought my SIL, who was hosting Easter - AND his sister EACH 2 dozen roses as a thank you for hosting Easter - plus brought food and the kids gifts to each of our families. I can't friggin' win here.
pavum Posted:

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it's just one of those situations where you''ll never 'win' with FH. He's just being stubborn and wants his way

but with his fam....seems like u DEF. won them over!

shoot -- if i got roses for hosting easter -- i'd have easter at my house every year!!

as for the holiday thing though -- he already said holidays are not important to his fam....so i think that if anyone should compromise it's him. But you're the on that's constantly compromising - so I think you've done your part

you just have to somehow accept that he's not going to appreciate you as much as you deserve to be appreciated for everything you do for HIS family and your own
sarahradio5 Posted:

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Posted by pavum

it's just one of those situations where you''ll never 'win' with FH. He's just being stubborn and wants his way

but with his fam....seems like u DEF. won them over!

shoot -- if i got roses for hosting easter -- i'd have easter at my house every year!!

as for the holiday thing though -- he already said holidays are not important to his fam....so i think that if anyone should compromise it's him. But you're the on that's constantly compromising - so I think you've done your part

you just have to somehow accept that he's not going to appreciate you as much as you deserve to be appreciated for everything you do for HIS family and your own



God... can I marry YOU?!?!

Thank you SO much!! I appreciate your input!!
pavum Posted:

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oh sorry....already taken!


but you can FM me if you want to vent!
sarahradio5 Posted:

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Posted by pavum

oh sorry....already taken!


but you can FM me if you want to vent!



lol... thank you very much.

And thanks for the hug.
pavum Posted:

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can someone tell me why I'm posting on LIW when i have four finals over the span of two weeks?

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