Making a perfect bow

So I have finally got most of the supplies for my favors and decided to try and put together a sample to see how it will look wrapped up.

BUT i'm having trouble making a bow. I'm using organza ribbon and I've tried with and without wire edging.

Anybody have tips or know a good how-to web site?

PS JLP are you out there? Help!

At Michael's, they sell a kit that tells you how to make the perfect bow. I am not sure how much it is but I don't think it would be too expensive. You can try Michael's or any other craft store. Let me see if I find you any website that might have that as well.

i post a thread like this a while ago and saved it to my notebook. i hope it helps.
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