I heard a machine in Ohio gave an extra 4,000 votes to Bush!! Is this true???
prncssrachel
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I just heard this too
Vicky1706
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I also heard that. I heard that the precinct turned in 4,000 votes but only 700 people were registered to vote...registered, not even actually voted.
I am not suprised
marymoon
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Kind of makes you wonder hwo many other 'machine errors' there were
RedHead
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I heard jessica and nick were getting a divorce too!
I also heard that a plane never hit the Pentagon but rather a bomb!
I hear Elvis may in fact be alive!
I mean really...Don't you think if this was true Kerry himself would have been the first to make sure some sort of investigation went on. And given the 4000 votes..he still would have lost the state!!!
Jeez
marymoon
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John Kerry wouldn't have said anything because 4,000 could not have made a difference at all. This IS true to my knowledge and not a rumor. I heard it on CNN
YUP...this is JUST like the Nick and Jessica Thing...You know, CNN always starting those rumors!
marymoon
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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.
Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry's 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.
Bush actually received 365 votes in the precinct, Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The Columbus Dispatch.
State and county election officials did not immediately respond to requests by The Associated Press for more details about the voting system and its vendor, and whether the error, if repeated elsewhere in Ohio, could have affected the outcome.
Bush won the state by more than 136,000 votes, according to unofficial results, and Kerry conceded the election on Wednesday after acknowledging that 155,000 provisional ballots yet to be counted in Ohio would not change the result. (Full Ohio results)
The Secretary of State's Office said Friday it could not revise Bush's total until the county reported the error.
The Ohio glitch is among a handful of computer troubles that have emerged since Tuesday's elections. (Touchscreen voting troubles reported)
In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did. And in San Francisco, a malfunction with custom voting software could delay efforts to declare the winners of four races for county supervisor.
In the Ohio precinct in question, the votes are recorded onto a cartridge. On one of the three machines at that precinct, a malfunction occurred in the recording process, Damschroder said. He could not explain how the malfunction occurred.
Damschroder said people who had seen poll results on the election board's Web site called to point out the discrepancy. The error would have been discovered when the official count for the election is performed later this month, he said.
The reader also recorded zero votes in a county commissioner race on the machine.
Workers checked the cartridge against memory banks in the voting machine and each showed that 115 people voted for Bush on that machine. With the other machines, the total for Bush in the precinct added up to 365 votes.
Meanwhile, in San Francisco, a glitch occurred with software designed for the city's new 'ranked-choice voting,' in which voters list their top three choices for municipal offices. If no candidate gets a majority of first-place votes outright, voters' second and third-place preferences are then distributed among candidates who weren't eliminated in the first round. (E-vote goes smoothly, but experts skeptical)
When the San Francisco Department of Elections tried a test run on Wednesday of the program that does the redistribution, some of the votes didn't get counted and skewed the results, director John Arntz said.
'All the information is there,' Arntz said. 'It's just not arriving the way it was supposed to.'
A technician from the Omaha, Neb. company that designed the software, Election Systems & Software Inc., was working to diagnose and fix the problem
marymoon
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I'm not saying ti would change the election's outcome entirely, but if this happenned in one machine, why could it not have happenned in many, and where there are a lot of voters, so youwodulnt notice. Early Tuesday there was a report of a woman who had voted for Kerry, and when she got to the confirmation screen it said 'you have voted for george bush...etc' ALL of the things were wrong..and she called in a lwyer and got that machine taken out of service, but who knows...what if you don't pay attention? How many other people did that happen to? WHat about machiens that don't have a confirmation screen? you wouldn't even know.
Wven if it's not some large scale conspiracy, there is something wrong here. We need machines that we know will be 100% accurate.
RedHead
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I was just reading the article....
Sorry for jumping.....i just hate when i see all these conspiracy theories all the time..I hear it non-stop at work and it drives me crazy....
apologies
marymoon
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No prob bob
RedHead
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Posted by marymoon
I'm not saying ti would change the election's outcome entirely, but if this happenned in one machine, why could it not have happenned in many, and where there are a lot of voters, so youwodulnt notice.
Wven if it's not some large scale conspiracy, there is something wrong here. We need machines that we know will be 100% accurate.
But i am sure if there were issues with the polls...it most likely could have happened in Kerry's favor as well?!
myasmom
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But i am sure if there were issues with the polls...it most likely could have happened in Kerry's favor as well?!
Speak the truth girl
lanikai
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Posted by oct.2004bride
Posted by marymoon
I'm not saying ti would change the election's outcome entirely, but if this happenned in one machine, why could it not have happenned in many, and where there are a lot of voters, so youwodulnt notice.
Wven if it's not some large scale conspiracy, there is something wrong here. We need machines that we know will be 100% accurate.
But i am sure if there were issues with the polls...it most likely could have happened in Kerry's favor as well?!
Perhaps, but I think its interesting that most of these election regularities were noted as taking place primiarily in swing states.
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Come on. No voting system is 100% perfect.
People should be HAPPY they actually FOUND the problem so for future elections if things like this happen again... they would get resolved.
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Posted by lanikai
Posted by oct.2004bride
Posted by marymoon
I'm not saying ti would change the election's outcome entirely, but if this happenned in one machine, why could it not have happenned in many, and where there are a lot of voters, so youwodulnt notice.
Wven if it's not some large scale conspiracy, there is something wrong here. We need machines that we know will be 100% accurate.
But i am sure if there were issues with the polls...it most likely could have happened in Kerry's favor as well?!
Perhaps, but I think its interesting that most of these election regularities were noted as taking place primiarily in swing states.
Because those are the ones we're paying attention to. California, NY, Texas - they're not double checking these states because it's irrelevant.
Good point oct.2004bride - if it's a machine error, I'm pretty sure the machine is not biased so likely there was a machine somewhere that malfunctioned in Kerry's favor.
By the way, those votes were not part of the total (they extracted the additional) so the numbers your seeing for Ohio do not include those votes.