With the anniversary of Kurt Cobain's death approaching, who thinks that Courtney Love was really responsible?
prncssrachel
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With the anniversary of Kurt Cobain's death approaching, who thinks that Courtney Love was really responsible?
I do. I will always believe this. I do not think he committed suicide. I was and still am a huge Nirvana fan and reading about some of the evidence and events that led up to the killing, I say something is fishy.
tracyg
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oooo really? I always suspected her (especially since she became more famous after his death). what kind of things were going on??
Jan05Bride
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Wow, I actually never heard that before (FH says I live in a mayonaise jar!). That's an interesting theory ... He was a serious drug user/abuser as is she. I think they lived life in a stupor.
Where's the evidence you found? I'd like to read about it and see another view ...
sweetadeline
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Good question! I still love Nirvana too and I wish I'd seen them play live when I had the chance.
I still think Kurt killed himself. He just seemed so miserable at that time, with his stomach pain and drug problems and all that.
Courtney's definitely not my favorite person, though, and she's the type to do dramatic things for attention, as we've all seen!
Did you see the _Kurt and Courtney_ documentary? There's some interesting stuff in it, but a lot of the people who suspect Courtney don't look too credible.
Sassyz75
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I think he killed himself. Their volatile relationship was probably a contributing factor- but I think his history of drug use and depression was what pushed him over the edge.
wc0143
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If you were married to her, wouldn't you consider suicide?
Jan05Bride
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If you were married to her, wouldn't you consider suicide?
She's so N-A-S-T-Y!
violet
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Honestly don't know. He was a depressed person, and drugs can make you feel a hell of a lot worse.
prncssrachel
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Well, I thought the Kurt and Courtney documentary was really poorly done, but it also made some interesting points, like he had two plane tickets to go away the next day, NOT with Courtney, and that is was nearly impossible to shoot himself with the shotgun he had, and he was looking to divorce Courtney. let me see if I can find some more info. My mind is on strike right now.
I had the extreme pleasure of seeing Nirvana when I was only 13 yrs. old, and they were awesome. My parents remember where they were when JFK was shot, and I will ALWAYS remember where I was when I heard Kurt Cobain was dead. (Not really the same calibur of events, but you get my point.)
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I think Kurt Cobain was an incredibly talented performer but also a someone who needed help. I definitely believe his troubles contributed to his death. I do not doubt he committed suicide. But I see C. Love as a bad influence which a detrimental effect on her husband. She's a wack-job as it is.
So while I do not think she pulled the trigger, I think she as a wife only hurt the situation and exercrabated his troubled mind.
KathleenG
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Call me naive but I never suspected her. He was so depressed and a big time drug user, the combination of the two was lethal in his case. Unfortunately, if she doesn't get her act together soon, I think she is headed down the same path.
prncssrachel
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Here's just some of... WHAT YOU WERE NEVER TOLD:
COURTNEY LOVE WAS FACING A DIVORCE Kurt was in the process of leaving Seattle and his wife Courtney, when he was found dead. Courtney knew Kurt wanted out of the marriage. Just weeks prior to his death, she asked one of her attorneys to get the 'meanest, most vicious divorce lawyer' she could find.
SOMEONE WAS USING KURT'S CREDIT CARD One of Kurt's credit cards was missing when his body was discovered. Someone was attempting to use the missing credit card after Cobain died, but the attempts stopped when his body was discovered.
COBAIN WAS IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE The shotgun found at the scene was purchased BEFORE Cobain left for rehab in Los Angeles, NOT AFTER he fled the rehab as reported by misinformed media sources. The shotgun was fully loaded with three shells. It was purchased and loaded for protection, not suicide.
The police claim there were no legible fingerprints on this shotgun!
The truth is, the shotgun wasn't even checked for fingerprints until May 6th, nearly one month after Cobain's body was found.
THERE WAS NO 'SUICIDE' NOTE!! The note found at the scene by the police was immediately labeled as a 'suicide note.' The police report states it was 'apparently written by Cobain to his wife and daughter, explaining why he had killed himself.' But this note was not addressed to Kurt's wife and daughter and it says nothing about 'killing himself!' This note was clearly written to Cobain's fans telling them he was quitting the music business. There was only a short footnote to Courtney and Frances and the handwriting contained in those lines has been questioned by several handwriting experts.
COURTNEY HAD ANOTHER NOTE SHE KEPT IN SECRET! Courtney was in possession of a second note after Kurt's body was found! SHE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE about this second note until several months later when information about it slipped out during an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine. The second note, the one that Courtney kept in secret, clearly defines the first note which was found at the scene of Cobain's death. The 'second note' from Kurt plainly states he was leaving Courtney and he was leaving Seattle. He was NOT leaving the planet!
COBAIN WAS INJECTED WITH 3 TIMES A LETHAL DOSE OF HEROIN!! Cobain's heroin, (morphine), blood level was 1.52 mgs per liter. This would require a minimum injection of 225 mgs of heroin, three times a lethal dose, even for a hardcore heroin addict! The drug Diazepam, was also found in Cobain's blood system.
THE OBVIOUS QUESTIONS: 1. If Cobain injected himself with a deliberate heroin overdose, why would he ALSO shoot himself in the head with a shotgun, leaving his baby daughter - the love of his life - with horrific visual images to remember him by? Why not just 'go to sleep' on the overdose and never wake up? 2. IF Cobain injected three times a lethal dose of heroin, COULD he then pick up a shotgun and shoot himself? Wouldn't he have been immediately incapacitated?
Based on the heroin, (morphine), blood levels found in Cobain's body, preliminary research indicates Kurt Cobain would have been immediately incapacitated. He could not have picked up that shotgun. He could not have pulled that trigger!
IN ADDITION... Cobain was not barricaded inside the room as reported by misinformed media sources. The stool which was supposedly wedged' against the door was actually just sitting in front of the two unlocked doors that only led out to a balcony.
Cobain did not leave his Driver’s License out for identification as reported by misinformed media sources.
The first police officer on the scene found Cobain's closed wallet, opened it to remove Kurt's driver's license, and displayed it in order to take a photograph.
THE FACT IS... The police and the Medical Examiner have no forensic evidence that proves Cobain's death was a suicide. On the other hand, there's a substantial amount of evidence for murder. The official verdict of 'suicide' was simply a rush to judgement which eventually painted the authorities into a corner as reports of so-called 'copy-cat' suicides began making the news.
As you examine this case carefully, you're going to discover there's much more to the events surrounding Cobain's death than what you've been told.
OctGroom
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Posted by 121502
Here's just some of... WHAT YOU WERE NEVER TOLD:
COURTNEY LOVE WAS FACING A DIVORCE Kurt was in the process of leaving Seattle and his wife Courtney, when he was found dead. Courtney knew Kurt wanted out of the marriage. Just weeks prior to his death, she asked one of her attorneys to get the 'meanest, most vicious divorce lawyer' she could find.
SOMEONE WAS USING KURT'S CREDIT CARD One of Kurt's credit cards was missing when his body was discovered. Someone was attempting to use the missing credit card after Cobain died, but the attempts stopped when his body was discovered.
COBAIN WAS IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE The shotgun found at the scene was purchased BEFORE Cobain left for rehab in Los Angeles, NOT AFTER he fled the rehab as reported by misinformed media sources. The shotgun was fully loaded with three shells. It was purchased and loaded for protection, not suicide.
The police claim there were no legible fingerprints on this shotgun!
The truth is, the shotgun wasn't even checked for fingerprints until May 6th, nearly one month after Cobain's body was found.
THERE WAS NO 'SUICIDE' NOTE!! The note found at the scene by the police was immediately labeled as a 'suicide note.' The police report states it was 'apparently written by Cobain to his wife and daughter, explaining why he had killed himself.' But this note was not addressed to Kurt's wife and daughter and it says nothing about 'killing himself!' This note was clearly written to Cobain's fans telling them he was quitting the music business. There was only a short footnote to Courtney and Frances and the handwriting contained in those lines has been questioned by several handwriting experts.
COURTNEY HAD ANOTHER NOTE SHE KEPT IN SECRET! Courtney was in possession of a second note after Kurt's body was found! SHE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE about this second note until several months later when information about it slipped out during an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine. The second note, the one that Courtney kept in secret, clearly defines the first note which was found at the scene of Cobain's death. The 'second note' from Kurt plainly states he was leaving Courtney and he was leaving Seattle. He was NOT leaving the planet!
COBAIN WAS INJECTED WITH 3 TIMES A LETHAL DOSE OF HEROIN!! Cobain's heroin, (morphine), blood level was 1.52 mgs per liter. This would require a minimum injection of 225 mgs of heroin, three times a lethal dose, even for a hardcore heroin addict! The drug Diazepam, was also found in Cobain's blood system.
THE OBVIOUS QUESTIONS: 1. If Cobain injected himself with a deliberate heroin overdose, why would he ALSO shoot himself in the head with a shotgun, leaving his baby daughter - the love of his life - with horrific visual images to remember him by? Why not just 'go to sleep' on the overdose and never wake up? 2. IF Cobain injected three times a lethal dose of heroin, COULD he then pick up a shotgun and shoot himself? Wouldn't he have been immediately incapacitated?
Based on the heroin, (morphine), blood levels found in Cobain's body, preliminary research indicates Kurt Cobain would have been immediately incapacitated. He could not have picked up that shotgun. He could not have pulled that trigger!
IN ADDITION... Cobain was not barricaded inside the room as reported by misinformed media sources. The stool which was supposedly wedged' against the door was actually just sitting in front of the two unlocked doors that only led out to a balcony.
Cobain did not leave his Driver’s License out for identification as reported by misinformed media sources.
The first police officer on the scene found Cobain's closed wallet, opened it to remove Kurt's driver's license, and displayed it in order to take a photograph.
THE FACT IS... The police and the Medical Examiner have no forensic evidence that proves Cobain's death was a suicide. On the other hand, there's a substantial amount of evidence for murder. The official verdict of 'suicide' was simply a rush to judgement which eventually painted the authorities into a corner as reports of so-called 'copy-cat' suicides began making the news.
As you examine this case carefully, you're going to discover there's much more to the events surrounding Cobain's death than what you've been told.
interesting.. it looks like icons (like Cobain, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, and JFK) can never have a 'simple' death. It only adds to them.
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TRANSCRIPT:
To Boddah pronounced
Speaking from the tongue of an experienced simpleton who obviously would rather be an emasculated, infantile complainee. This note should be pretty easy to understand. All the warnings from the punk rock 101 courses over the years. Since my first introduction to the, shall we say, ethics involved with independence and the embracement of your community has proven to be very true. I haven't felt the excitement of listening to as well as creating music along with reading and writing for too many years now. I feel guilty beyond words about these things. For example when we're backstage and the lights go out and the manic roar of the crowd begins it doesn't affect me the way in which it did for Freddy Mercury who seemed to love. (?)relish in the love and adoration from the crowd. Which is something I totally admire and envy. The fact is I can't fool you. Any one of you. It simply isn't fair to you or me. The worst crime I can think of would be to rip people off by faking it and pretending as if I'm having 100 % fun. Sometimes I feel as if I should have a punch in time clock before I walk out on stage. I've tried everything within my power to appreciate it, (and I do. God, believe me I do, but it's not enough. I appreciate the fact that I and we have affected and entertained a lot of people. I must be one of those narcissists who only appreciate things when they're gone. I'm too sensitive. I need to be slightly numb in order to regain the enthusiasm I once had as a child. On our last three tours I've had a much better appreciation for all the people I've known personally and as fans of our music, but I still can't get over the frustration, the guilt and empathy I have for everyone. There's good in all of us and I think I simply love people too much. So much that it makes me feel too ******* sad. The sad little, sensitive, unappreciative, pisces, Jesus man! Why don't you just enjoy it? I don't know. I have a goddess of a wife who sweats ambition and empathy and a daughter who reminds me too much of what I used to be. Full of love and joy kissing every person she meets because everyone is good and will do her no harm. And that terrifies me to the point to where I can barely function. I can't stand the thought of Frances becoming the miserable self-destructive, death rocker that I've become. I have it good, very good, and I'm grateful, but since the age of seven I've become hateful towards all humans in general. Only because it seems so easy for people to get along, and have empathy. Empathy! Only because I love and feel for people too much I guess. Thank you all from the pit of my burning nauseous stomach for your letters and concern during the past years. I'm too much of an erratic, moody baby! I don't have the passion anymore and so remember, its better to burn out than to fade away. peace, love, empathy. Kurt Cobain
Frances and Courtney, I'll be at your alter.
Please keep going Courtney for Frances for her life which will be so much happier without me. I Love you. I love you!
prncssrachel
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I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist at all, and for YEARS I thought he just did kill himself. But after reading a lot of things lately, I think my mind is changed.