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Caroline!!!

B22 Posted:

Caroline!!!


I am curious about the derivation of pi and the formula for deriving a polygon of degree... can you help?
carolinebr Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!

While I am more of an analyst than a mathematician, I will try to explain.

Historically, most people have used the perimeter of a polygon instead of its area to approximate Pi. To do this, you would use the formulaCircumference = Pi * Diameter to approximate the digits of Pi. To do
this, they inscribe a regular polygon in a circle of diameter 1. Then as the number of sides of the polygon gets big, its perimeter will approach Pi.

If you want to use the formula Pi*r^2 to find an approximation toPi, you'd use a circle of radius 1, and inscribe a regular polygon in it. It's WAY helpful to draw a picture of what's going on. You can divide up the polygon into pie-wedges, and then you find the
area of each one and multiply by n. So let's find the area of one of the pieces.

We'll divide the triangle into 2 triangles by constructing the segment from the center of the circle to the midpoint of the side of the polygon.
Then we've made a right triangle. One of the 2 non-right angles sticks out from the center of the circle; call this angle v. Now the lengths of the 2 legs of the triangle will be Sin[v] and Cos[v]. If you don't see why, write us back (remember, the circle we've inscribe
this triangle in has radius 1).

So the area of the smaller triangle we made is Sin[t] * Cos[t] /2, so the area of the larger triangle is Sin[t] * Cos[t]. Now, what is t in terms ofn? It's 360/2n, i.e. 180/n. Again, if you don't see why, ask us. So the
area of this triangle is Sin[180/n] * Cos[180/n], and there are n such triangles, so the total area of the polygon is n * Sin[180/n] * Cos[180/n]. If you take the limit of this term as n gets big, you should get Pi.

In fact, you could even simplify this term some. If you just look at the Cos[180/n] term, notice that 180/n is going to zero, and Cos[0] is 1. So this won't contribute to the limit in the end, it'll just multiply it by 1.
So you could just use n*Sin[180/n] if you wanted to.

I hope this helps!
DeannaNDave07 Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!

OMG
this is another language to me..

B22 Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by carolinebr



So the area of the smaller triangle we made is Sin[t] * Cos[t] /2, so the area of the larger triangle is Sin[t] * Cos[t]. Now, what is t in terms ofn? It's 360/2n, i.e. 180/n. Again, if you don't see why, ask us. So the
area of this triangle is Sin[180/n] * Cos




the cos?

B22 Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by DeannaNDave07

OMG
this is another language to me..




this is the EXACT reason why I'm an artist.
jtgarsik Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by DeannaNDave07

OMG
this is another language to me..




aaand this is EXACTLY why it took me 4times to pass my math regents....
B22 Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by jtgarsik


Posted by DeannaNDave07

OMG
this is another language to me..




aaand this is EXACTLY why it took my 4times to pass my math regents....



I failed my road test 5 times.
Colette Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!

Holy G*d I think caroline(br) wrote out that entire thing, its not a cut and paste job. That's as freaky as the manboobs too me....

DeannaNDave07 Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by carolinep24


Posted by DeannaNDave07

OMG
this is another language to me..




this is the EXACT reason why I'm an artist.



LOL.. i dont blame you.. i cant even imagine figuring that out..
DeannaNDave07 Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by carolinep24


Posted by jtgarsik


Posted by DeannaNDave07

OMG
this is another language to me..




aaand this is EXACTLY why it took my 4times to pass my math regents....



I failed my road test 5 times.



you both crack me up !
B22 Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by Colette

Holy G*d I think caroline(br) wrote out that entire thing, its not a cut and paste job. That's as freaky as the manboobs too me....



If she did, then she is officially my new favorite person.

(it's not really an honor though... at one point wilfred brimely was my favorite person)
carolinebr Posted:

Re: Caroline!!!


Posted by carolinep24


Posted by Colette

Holy G*d I think caroline(br) wrote out that entire thing, its not a cut and paste job. That's as freaky as the manboobs too me....



If she did, then she is officially my new favorite person.

(it's not really an honor though... at one point wilfred brimely was my favorite person)




I am about to pee my pants:

Wlfred





Diabettttes

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