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2005 DRAFT!

JGirl11297 Posted:

2005 DRAFT!

I have just received this email that a bill is trying to be passed for a 2005 Draft...I am freaking out b/c it's for men and women ages 18-26...my FH and I fit in that range and although I support our troops and I am proud of them. I can't go over there and I don't want my FH to be over there either. I really just needed to vent and I am hoping this bill does not pass. If anyone would like to follow up on this bill here is the website...
http://thomas.loc.gov/

Bill Number: HR 163
marymoon Posted:

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I've heard that a lot of this is a rumor and there was a bill in congress, which was actually launched by Dems as a statement to other members f congress about the war, and it was shot down like, several hundred to 4.

Whether or not Bush would try to reinstate the draft as a lame duck, I don't know, but ai wouldn;t out it past him. As it is, it is not in the works.
DjPiLL Posted:

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LOL... hoax.

Just disregard it.
marymoon Posted:

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It's a hox, just like 'Send this email to 250 people in the next 9.2 minutes and Bill Gates will give you a free trip to Disney World.

Check it Out

Is this the email you got?


A real example of the eRumor as it has appeared on the Internet:

Subject: the new mandatory draft Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:20:30 -0700
Not a good sign...Mandatory drafting for boys and girls (age 18-26) starting June 15,2005, is something, I believe, everyone should know. This literally
affects EVERYONE since we all have or know children that will have to go if
this bill passes. If there are children in your family, READ this. There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election.
The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately. Details and links follow. Even those voters who currently support us.(sic) Actions abroad may still object to this move, knowing their own children or grandchildren will
not have a say about whether to fight. Not that it should make a difference,
but this plan, among! other things, eliminates higher education as a
shelter and includes women in the draft -- Also, crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.
Actions, actions, actions: Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents.... And let your
children know -- it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for
change! Please also write to your representatives to ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills -- and write to
newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this mportant story.
The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004 selective service system (sss) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the sss annual performance plan - fiscal year 2004. The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.
Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a 'long,
hard slog' in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on 'terrorism']
proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5146.htm
www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and HR 163 forward this year,
http://www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp
entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, 'to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.' These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services. Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a 'smart border declaration,' which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a 'pre-clearance agreement' of people entering and departing ea! ch country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter.
Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current
semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year



Maribelle7777 Posted:

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The draft bill was written up by Sen. Rangel(who is a democrat by the way, represents Harlem) but it was trounced in the Senate, 402 to 2. Even Rangel didn't vote for it (that's what I read in the News, I want to double check) because he says he didn't have enough time to debate it. Congress is supposed to adjourn Oct 1 but it's looking like they'll just recess on Fri or Sat and come back after the election to tie up loose ends and then adjourn before Thanksgiving.



Janice Posted:

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I understood it to be that democrats were threatening the idea of a draft, since the number of white republicans in the military is low compared to the numbers of minorities. and maybe politicians will be less for war if their own sons were fighting.

t Posted:

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Posted by Janice

I understood it to be that democrats were threatening the idea of a draft, since the number of white republicans in the military is low compared to the numbers of minorities. and maybe politicians will be less for war if their own sons were fighting.




Thats what I heard too. I am a little concerned because my brother is 25. And being the mother of two boys, I dont want to see it happen


JGirl11297 Posted:

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Yeah, that is the email I received...I am hoping this will never happen.

HearzBellz Posted:

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We had the same scare during desert storm, but of course it never got this far b/c the war was much shorter. I do agree that the demographic mix in the military is very unbalanced, but is a draft the answer?

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