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like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

itslaurie. Posted:

like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

Kids With High IQs Grow Up to Be Vegetarians

By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay ReporterFri Dec 15, 2:01 PM ET

FRIDAY, Dec. 15 (HealthDay News) -- As a child's IQ rises, his taste for meat in adulthood declines, a new study suggests.

British researchers have found that children's IQ predicts their likelihood of becoming vegetarians as young adults -- lowering their risk for cardiovascular disease in the process. The finding could explain the link between smarts and better health, the investigators say.

'Brighter people tend to have healthier dietary habits,' concluded lead author Catharine Gale, a senior research fellow at the MRC Epidemiology Resource Centre of the University of Southampton and Southampton General Hospital.

Recent studies suggest that vegetarianism may be associated with lower cholesterol, reduced risk of obesity and heart disease. This might explain why children with high IQs tend to have a lower risk of heart disease in later life.

The report is published in the Dec. 15 online edition of the British Medical Journal.

'We know from other studies that brighter children tend to behave in a healthier fashion as adults -- they're less likely to smoke, less likely to be overweight, less likely to have high blood pressure and more likely to take strenuous exercise,' Gale said. 'This study provides further evidence that people with a higher IQ tend to have a healthier lifestyle.'

In the study, Gale's team collected data on nearly 8,200 men and women aged 30, whose IQ had been tested when they were 10 years of age.

'Children who scored higher on IQ tests at age 10 were more likely than those who got lower scores to report that they were vegetarian at the age of 30,' Gale said.

The researchers found that 4.5 percent of participants were vegetarians. Of these, 2.5 percent were vegan, and 33.6 percent said they were vegetarian but also ate fish or chicken.

There was no difference in IQ score between strict vegetarians and those who said they were vegetarian but who said they ate fish or chicken, the researchers add.

Vegetarians were more likely to be female, of higher social class and better educated, but IQ was still a significant predictor of being vegetarian after adjustment for these factors, Gale said.

'Vegetarian diets are associated with lower cardiovascular disease risk in a number of studies, so these findings suggest that a such a diet may help to explain why children or adolescents with a higher IQ have a lower risk of coronary heart disease as adults,' Gale said.

One expert said the findings aren't the whole answer, however.

'This study left many unanswered questions such as: Did the vegetarian children grow up in a household with a vegetarian parent? Were meatless meals regularly served in the household? Were the children eating a primarily vegetarian diet at the age of 10?' said Lona Sandon, an assistant professor of clinical nutrition at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas.

'In addition, we don't know the beliefs or attitudes of the parents of the children, nor do we know if there was a particular event that led these children to becoming vegetarian in their teens or adulthood,' Sandon said.

As the study showed, more women than men chose a vegetarian diet, Sandon noted. 'Other research shows that women in general will focus more on their health than men. So, if they believe that a vegetarian diet will have health benefits, they are more likely to follow it,' she said.

Given these factors, 'we cannot draw any solid conclusions from this research,' Sandon added.

Another expert agreed that a vegetarian diet is healthy.

'The evidence linking vegetarianism to good health outcomes is very strong,' said Dr. David L. Katz, the director of the Prevention Research Center and an associate professor of public health at the Yale University School of Medicine.

'Studies, for example, of vegetarian Seventh-Day Adventists in California suggest that they have lower rates of almost all major chronic diseases, and greater longevity, than their omnivorous counterparts,' Katz said. 'Evidence is also strong and consistent that greater intelligence, higher education, and loftier social status -- which tend to cluster with one another -- also correlate with good health.'

More information

There's more on vegetarian diets at the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
JessicaM. Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

Christine is in Mensa...and I am damn close to it. we both eat meat.


the study was probably done by iron-deprived people falling asleep at their desks
itslaurie. Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

Posted by JessicaM.

JessicaM. Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by itslaurie.

Posted by JessicaM.




see, you need iron too.

beef, it's what's for dinner!?
chikita315 Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by JessicaM.

Christine is in Mensa...and I am damn close to it. we both eat meat.




Is she?

I was in TAG (Talented and Gifted) and my mom gave me bologna sandwiches everyday.
Naunie Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

OK, so that's 3 for proving it wrong-
add me to the proving it right pile.
IQ 145
greenfreak Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

Above average IQ, meat eater.

Although there aren't many veggies I enjoy (or can stomach without pain), I try not to limit myself to cutting out any of the food groups completely.

Sorry.
cindyandkevin Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

I don't care, I'll be stupid, I love meat too much!!!!!
greenfreak Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by Naunie

OK, so that's 3 for proving it wrong-
add me to the proving it right pile.
IQ 145



This, from the woman who can't answer my QOTD because it requires her to think too much.

itslaurie. Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

really...? you guys all know your IQ's?

greenfreak Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.

The last time I was properly checked was high school. Maybe I'm stupider now.

JessicaM. Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by itslaurie.

really...? you guys all know your IQ's?




I have been tested a few times.

they call me 'logic' in my family.

they call my niece logic jr.
Naunie Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by greenfreak

stupider


SuzBride Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by Naunie

OK, so that's 3 for proving it wrong-
add me to the proving it right pile.
IQ 145



Me - veggie and HS top 10 in class of >500.

chikita315 Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by SuzBride


Posted by Naunie

OK, so that's 3 for proving it wrong-
add me to the proving it right pile.
IQ 145



Me - veggie and HS top 10 in class of >500.




So, I guess all you veggies aren't counting the 'meat' you ate in HS.

Hoes
SuzBride Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by chikita315


Posted by SuzBride


Posted by Naunie

OK, so that's 3 for proving it wrong-
add me to the proving it right pile.
IQ 145



Me - veggie and HS top 10 in class of >500.




So, I guess all you veggies aren't counting the 'meat' you ate in HS.

Hoes



I didn't eat any meat in HS I went veggie in MS
chikita315 Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by SuzBride


I didn't eat any meat in HS I went veggie in MS



When I say 'meat', I mean 'balls'.
SuzBride Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by chikita315


Posted by SuzBride


I didn't eat any meat in HS I went veggie in MS



When I say 'meat', I mean 'balls'.



I am SLOW today.
JanuaryBride06 Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by chikita315


Posted by SuzBride


Posted by Naunie

OK, so that's 3 for proving it wrong-
add me to the proving it right pile.
IQ 145



Me - veggie and HS top 10 in class of >500.




So, I guess all you veggies aren't counting the 'meat' you ate in HS.

Hoes



When I was veggie, any guy who found out was always like 'NO meat ever???' and I had to give my tramp reply of 'With exception.'
SuzBride Posted:

Re: like we needed a study to tell us... but proof is always nice. veggies are smarties.


Posted by JanuaryBride06

When I was veggie, any guy who found out was always like 'NO meat ever???' and I had to give my tramp reply of 'With exception.'



I got this all the time - they thought it was the most genius and unique comment ever.

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