Major vent... (a little long...)

busybee705 Posted: Jul 26, 2005 10:36 PM

Major vent... (a little long...)

My catering hall is charging me sales tax on my catering bill AND the 18% 'service charge'.

I went to many catering facilities when looking for my hall and heard that it was illegal to charge sales tax on gratuities.

Therefore, when I meet with the catering managers (different from the original person I was dealing with, because he was no where in sight), I had a major argument with them over this.

I think they hide this practice by calling the 18% gratuity a 'service charge' instead and that's how they get away with this.

Please let me know if you've experienced this, and whether or not I'm right with this matter.

Thanks

jg Posted: Jul 26, 2005 10:38 PM

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thats what my hall did too, i think that is normal.....

chefe Posted: Jul 26, 2005 10:56 PM

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This is a tough issue to explain...your accountant may the real person to ask, but the long and short of it is, the 'service charge' is not considered a 'gratuity'. This is going to sound like complete BS, but while we all consider it the staff gratuity, technically you are paying for the intangible service you received and in NYS and NYC, services are a taxable item. I know, it stinks.

busybee705 Posted: Jul 26, 2005 11:12 PM

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This is not the only financial issue I have had this month with them.

I sent them a personal check on 7/10 to pay for the final expenses on the wedding. I figure 2 weeks should be enough for a check to clear. It does for every other vendor, and their contract does not specify any time limit for personal check payments.

Three days ago, someone calls me to inform me they cannot accept payment, because the check was made 20 days before the wedding rather than 3 weeks (21 days) before.

IF the service charge is taxable, then I would have no choice but to pay the amount, but I would not recommend this place to anyone anymore. I only hope that they follow my instructions and that things go as planned.

WedHead Posted: Jul 26, 2005 11:24 PM

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Sorry this is upsetting you but unfortunately, I think it's a pretty normal fee we're all paying - just another way to nail the new Mr. and Mrs. Did you go back and look in your contract? They should have specified this cost in the beginning.

tracie143 Posted: Jul 26, 2005 11:28 PM

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it is normal. I am paying the same..18% and tips.

kris15198 Posted: Jul 26, 2005 11:37 PM

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Hmmm....my hall is the tax and then the 18% gratuity. It should be stated on your contract though.

Wintersbride Posted: Jul 26, 2005 11:42 PM

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I have that too

PegaLega Posted: Jul 26, 2005 11:57 PM

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I have it too, but its called a 'service charge'..blah blah blah

ManhattanWoman Posted: Jul 27, 2005 12:31 AM

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we're also paying tax plus 18%grat plus tips to like everyone

honestly if everyone does what theyre supposed to do to make the day go smooth for us then i dont mind

Heavin Posted: Jul 27, 2005 12:48 AM

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I went to a hall that voluntarily explained gratuity and service charge. They explained it because they charge gratuity and explained to us that there are places that charge a service charge and others charge gratuity... service charge is taxed, gratuity is not!

babybug631 Posted: Jul 27, 2005 11:46 PM

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After reading this I looked at my contract and I am paying tax on the service charge as well. I guess that's how they do it. But I'm not tipping on top of it. The service charge is the tip.

KerriSteve Posted: Jul 28, 2005 08:38 AM

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Well if your getting married at The Watermill
your in luck. the bm there told me that they don't tax the grat. but most other places do. Everywhere else i've been did.

jvs77 Posted: Jul 28, 2005 08:44 AM

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The ladies on here are correct, you can charge tax on a service charge but not on gratuity. (I did a bunch of research when this issue came up with my hall, and unfortunately, that's the answer that I found on a NY tax site.)

jes81276 Posted: Jul 28, 2005 09:26 AM

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We're paying tax and 20% service charge...go figure!

PegaLega Posted: Jul 29, 2005 02:25 AM

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My BM told me that the 'service charge' is basically the gratuity. We get taxed on it, but we dont HAVE to tip unless we choose to. I went over this with him like 30 times b/c we saw something we didnt like at a wedding and he said, we CHOOSE to tip!

It is not expected, but if someone did a great job we could. Ask your BM about it.