Monster...

sarahthegreat Posted: Dec 05, 2004 08:40 PM

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i think she was a little crazy all along. she just choose to play the victim at her trial.

Russo'sbride Posted: Dec 05, 2004 09:39 PM

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I thought the movie was excellent. Eileen Wornos had a sad life. Her whole situation was sad to me. She was definately crazy though.

lolita4life Posted: Dec 05, 2004 11:36 PM

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i think that some people think that the ppl who feel bad for aileen defend her murders which is not true at all. no one saying shes some great woman. but i do have compassion for her. she was a victim as well.

jozieb0925 Posted: Dec 06, 2004 08:58 AM

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Posted by oct.2004bride

Posted by jozieb0925

My dh and I just bought the movie, but still haven't seen it...I will post my opinions when I finally see it..

I actually haven't and won't see the movie. I have seen biographies about her so i know the story. I have friends who saw it and told me the general sense they got from it..That they make people empathize with her and her situation..Blaming her childhood and upbringing as causes for her actions..
Which can be possibly true. But i guess i just can't watch anything that would make the public feel bad for that nasty person..

I mean really ...if hitlers mom spanked him cause he was a bed wetter...causing him to go on to attempt to annihilate an entire population of people...would you feel bad for him? Or even if her was beated silly everyday as a child...would you feel bad for osama bin ladin?...I wouldn't

We watched it last night and I agree, they definitely try and make you feel bad for her. Sadly, I kind of did!! BUT, I do not agree with what she did. When that first guy rapped and beat her, she killed him in self-defense to survive. But, why all of the others? She became desperate and very selfish. I know she needed money and she loved that girl, but she didn't have to kill a poor, innocent guy who only tried to help her and for once, didn't want any sexual favors from her. She needed LOTS of help (if that would even work) and was obviously lacking love and a nourishing environment as a child, but that gives her no reason to kill people. There are certain rules to life and killing people is just not one of them!!!

BTW, Charlize Theron (don't know how to spell her name) and Christina Richi..did an excellent job on their parts..I don't think C. Richi was even acknowledged for that movie?? Right??

lolita4life Posted: Dec 06, 2004 11:57 AM

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she wasnt acknowledged really..... omg, you HAVE to see a pic of the REAL girl, tye. or, 'selby' in the movie. they do not look ANYTHING alike!

jozieb0925 Posted: Dec 06, 2004 12:37 PM

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Do you have a picture? Post it..just curious to what she looked like..

SeptWed Posted: Dec 06, 2004 01:18 PM

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Ty has short spiked blond hair and is overweight. I saw an HBO documentary recently on the case after watching the movie. They totally supported Aileen....I did not agree with it at all.

She had a rough life, but she killed those men for money for her and her lover. One man had a handicapped wife and that was probably why he was picking up a prostitute and another just tried to help her out. So i did not feel sorry for her at all. In the HBO documentary they actually tried to make it seem like Ty was the bad person because she knew about what she was doing and didn't report it and then took the stand against her at her trial.

Aileen was dispicable for what she did and i did not feel sorry for her in anyway. She screamed obscenties all through her trial and even spit on a court officer. Disgusting....I for one am happy that she got what was coming to her. JMO so don't flame me please.

lolita4life Posted: Dec 06, 2004 01:48 PM

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when i saw Tye she had a brown mullet and was chunky.

lolita4life Posted: Dec 06, 2004 01:53 PM

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heres a link to a pic of ty... down ...

it bothers me that they always call aileen 'the lesbian serial killer'.. w t f ?!
who cares? what does that matter? she wasnt even fully gay anyway. She was married to an old man for a long time....

ty: i guess she did have light hair?!
Ty

RedHead Posted: Dec 06, 2004 04:36 PM

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Posted by lolita4life

heres a link to a pic of ty... down ...

it bothers me that they always call aileen 'the lesbian serial killer'.. w t f ?!
who cares? what does that matter? she wasnt even fully gay anyway. She was married to an old man for a long time....

ty: i guess she did have light hair?!
Ty

A lot of serial killers have had their names, so i don't think she would be the exception
Dalmer and Gacy.. both gay killer and called a lot worse

cindy_bride Posted: Dec 06, 2004 05:18 PM

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I FOUND HER STORY TO BE VERY INTERESTING....I BELIEVE SHE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS/ISSUES WHICH DROVE HER TO DO WHAT SHE DID. IT ALL GOES BACK TO HER PAST. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S EXCUSABLE IN ANY WAY HOWEVER, SHE SHE HAD A 'NORMAL' LIFE, SHE WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THE THINGS SHE DID.

RedHead Posted: Dec 06, 2004 05:20 PM

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Posted by cindy_bride

I FOUND HER STORY TO BE VERY INTERESTING....I BELIEVE SHE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS/ISSUES WHICH DROVE HER TO DO WHAT SHE DID. IT ALL GOES BACK TO HER PAST. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S EXCUSABLE IN ANY WAY HOWEVER, SHE SHE HAD A 'NORMAL' LIFE, SHE WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THE THINGS SHE DID.

I would say you can consider ALL Serial killers to have mental problems

Son of sam believes dogs were talking to him!!

RedHead Posted: Dec 06, 2004 05:23 PM

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Posted by cindy_bride

I FOUND HER STORY TO BE VERY INTERESTING....I BELIEVE SHE HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS/ISSUES WHICH DROVE HER TO DO WHAT SHE DID. IT ALL GOES BACK TO HER PAST. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S EXCUSABLE IN ANY WAY HOWEVER, SHE SHE HAD A 'NORMAL' LIFE, SHE WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THE THINGS SHE DID.

YEa and also...there are MILLIONS of people and children that have had traumatic childhoods and DON'T KILL..
So i get tired when people use it

lolita4life Posted: Dec 07, 2004 01:06 AM

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i just re-watched monster after all this talk.

im going to watch the first documaentary on her tomorrow.

i dont know what my obsession with her is all about!

jozieb0925 Posted: Dec 07, 2004 09:17 AM

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Posted by lolita4life

heres a link to a pic of ty... down ...

it bothers me that they always call aileen 'the lesbian serial killer'.. w t f ?!
who cares? what does that matter? she wasnt even fully gay anyway. She was married to an old man for a long time....

ty: i guess she did have light hair?!
Ty

Ewww..how on earth did they pick Christina Richi to play her role..??they look nothing alike...I

lolita4life Posted: Dec 07, 2004 12:24 PM

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i KNOW!!!!!!!! i guess they wanted people to actually WATCH it!

no, but in all fairness i think that christina ricci gave an excellent performance. i think she def shouldve won an award, but i dont think she did...but at least in chralze therons acceptance speech for her oscar she said that christina was the real hero... or something like that.

jozieb0925 Posted: Dec 07, 2004 12:31 PM

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Posted by lolita4life

i KNOW!!!!!!!! i guess they wanted people to actually WATCH it!

no, but in all fairness i think that christina ricci gave an excellent performance. i think she def shouldve won an award, but i dont think she did...but at least in chralze therons acceptance speech for her oscar she said that christina was the real hero... or something like that.

Yeah. I def. think she should have been acknowledged for her role..supporting actress or something..she was really good!!

Did she have to gain weight for the part? She looked heavier than usual.

lolita4life Posted: Dec 07, 2004 12:33 PM

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i know Charlize DEF did...

and last night when watching it we were wondering the same thing about Ricci. she looked alittle plump... but then again, i think her weight always fluxuates..... doesnt it?