nwr: obama's speech

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Posted by MrsDrinkh20

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Posted by mf2009

I think any of these politicians can be dangerous if given enough power to corrupt. I will be honest to say I haven't followed the election completely but I will say this will be a monumental moment for years to come. Being black and a woman has made this process quite difficult but I feel and hope that Obama will be a fresh and better candiate for this election.

We can all play nice and sing cumbaya (sp?) and act like race and sex have nothing to do with this election but lets be realistic--It does. That doesn't mean we are going 10 steps back, we just need to recognize the problems that are still occurring in the new century.

Also Obama did state that he did not agree nor endorse the words of his preacher but still went to church where he preached. I understand that to some this could be contradictory but from someone who has grown up in a church with many many issues. If I just up and left each time my pastor or deacon said something I didn't agree with I would have been to 30 churches by now. It's about loyalty and having a strong faith in God and be able to know when to draw the line.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that Obama would be a far better President and articulate President than Bush.

And for the young lady who stated that his name reminded her of Osama (hate me if you will) it's comments like that, that bring us 10 steps back!

I just hope whomever is elected can clean up this mess Bush got us into and bring these troops back to their families and bring some sort of stability and camaraderie in this country.
JMO

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Posted by b2b777

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Posted by MrsDrinkh20

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Posted by mf2009

I think any of these politicians can be dangerous if given enough power to corrupt. I will be honest to say I haven't followed the election completely but I will say this will be a monumental moment for years to come. Being black and a woman has made this process quite difficult but I feel and hope that Obama will be a fresh and better candiate for this election.

We can all play nice and sing cumbaya (sp?) and act like race and sex have nothing to do with this election but lets be realistic--It does. That doesn't mean we are going 10 steps back, we just need to recognize the problems that are still occurring in the new century.

Also Obama did state that he did not agree nor endorse the words of his preacher but still went to church where he preached. I understand that to some this could be contradictory but from someone who has grown up in a church with many many issues. If I just up and left each time my pastor or deacon said something I didn't agree with I would have been to 30 churches by now. It's about loyalty and having a strong faith in God and be able to know when to draw the line.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that Obama would be a far better President and articulate President than Bush.

And for the young lady who stated that his name reminded her of Osama (hate me if you will) it's comments like that, that bring us 10 steps back!

I just hope whomever is elected can clean up this mess Bush got us into and bring these troops back to their families and bring some sort of stability and camaraderie in this country.
JMO

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Thanks. I tried to give my opinion and not piss anyone off at the same time

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Posted by mf2009

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Posted by b2b777

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Posted by MrsDrinkh20

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Posted by mf2009

I think any of these politicians can be dangerous if given enough power to corrupt. I will be honest to say I haven't followed the election completely but I will say this will be a monumental moment for years to come. Being black and a woman has made this process quite difficult but I feel and hope that Obama will be a fresh and better candiate for this election.

We can all play nice and sing cumbaya (sp?) and act like race and sex have nothing to do with this election but lets be realistic--It does. That doesn't mean we are going 10 steps back, we just need to recognize the problems that are still occurring in the new century.

Also Obama did state that he did not agree nor endorse the words of his preacher but still went to church where he preached. I understand that to some this could be contradictory but from someone who has grown up in a church with many many issues. If I just up and left each time my pastor or deacon said something I didn't agree with I would have been to 30 churches by now. It's about loyalty and having a strong faith in God and be able to know when to draw the line.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that Obama would be a far better President and articulate President than Bush.

And for the young lady who stated that his name reminded her of Osama (hate me if you will) it's comments like that, that bring us 10 steps back!

I just hope whomever is elected can clean up this mess Bush got us into and bring these troops back to their families and bring some sort of stability and camaraderie in this country.
JMO

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Thanks. I tried to give my opinion and not piss anyone off at the same time

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you were very tactful..and RIGHT ON!

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Posted by MrsDrinkh20

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Posted by mf2009

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Posted by b2b777

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Posted by MrsDrinkh20

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Posted by mf2009

I think any of these politicians can be dangerous if given enough power to corrupt. I will be honest to say I haven't followed the election completely but I will say this will be a monumental moment for years to come. Being black and a woman has made this process quite difficult but I feel and hope that Obama will be a fresh and better candiate for this election.

We can all play nice and sing cumbaya (sp?) and act like race and sex have nothing to do with this election but lets be realistic--It does. That doesn't mean we are going 10 steps back, we just need to recognize the problems that are still occurring in the new century.

Also Obama did state that he did not agree nor endorse the words of his preacher but still went to church where he preached. I understand that to some this could be contradictory but from someone who has grown up in a church with many many issues. If I just up and left each time my pastor or deacon said something I didn't agree with I would have been to 30 churches by now. It's about loyalty and having a strong faith in God and be able to know when to draw the line.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that Obama would be a far better President and articulate President than Bush.

And for the young lady who stated that his name reminded her of Osama (hate me if you will) it's comments like that, that bring us 10 steps back!

I just hope whomever is elected can clean up this mess Bush got us into and bring these troops back to their families and bring some sort of stability and camaraderie in this country.
JMO

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Thanks. I tried to give my opinion and not piss anyone off at the same time

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you were very tactful..and RIGHT ON!

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i love this! it's courteous and healthy political debate.

i know a lot of other posts commented on obama as a potentially 'dangerous' candidate. i just want people to consider the following: mccain has freely used racial epithets (referring to asians) in statements made to the public/media while obama has been crucified for comments that he didn't even make himself and that he has renounced as ignorant; and Clinton had an arguably larger role in the whitewater scandal during her husband's administration than he did (not to mention the fact that she accepted hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions for the NY senate race and continues to do so since it's common practice for big corporations to buy govt leaders these days). the point: it's a dirty, mud-slinging business with plenty of ammunition in every candidate's background.

i think americans are especially nervous and cynical going into this election because we're so battered and bruised from bush's reign of terror. i urge people to look at the issues and avoid making this a personality contest based on the rhyming quality of one candidate's KENYAN last name with a SAUDI terrorist's.

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Posted by beram63

i know a lot of other posts commented on obama as a potentially 'dangerous' candidate. i just want people to consider the following: mccain has freely used racial epithets (referring to asians) in statements made to the public/media while obama has been crucified for comments that he didn't even make himself and that he has renounced as ignorant;

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i'm in no way defending mccain here as i will not be voting for him in '08 but let me just say that mccain has explained that his rascist comments were out of context and he was referring to his northern vietnamese captors who held him prisoner and tortured him for years during the war.

also, mccain and his wife have a teenage daughter they adopted from Bangladesh who is (obviously) asian.

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Posted by beram63

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Posted by MrsDrinkh20

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Posted by mf2009

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Posted by b2b777

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Posted by MrsDrinkh20

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Posted by mf2009

I think any of these politicians can be dangerous if given enough power to corrupt. I will be honest to say I haven't followed the election completely but I will say this will be a monumental moment for years to come. Being black and a woman has made this process quite difficult but I feel and hope that Obama will be a fresh and better candiate for this election.

We can all play nice and sing cumbaya (sp?) and act like race and sex have nothing to do with this election but lets be realistic--It does. That doesn't mean we are going 10 steps back, we just need to recognize the problems that are still occurring in the new century.

Also Obama did state that he did not agree nor endorse the words of his preacher but still went to church where he preached. I understand that to some this could be contradictory but from someone who has grown up in a church with many many issues. If I just up and left each time my pastor or deacon said something I didn't agree with I would have been to 30 churches by now. It's about loyalty and having a strong faith in God and be able to know when to draw the line.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that Obama would be a far better President and articulate President than Bush.

And for the young lady who stated that his name reminded her of Osama (hate me if you will) it's comments like that, that bring us 10 steps back!

I just hope whomever is elected can clean up this mess Bush got us into and bring these troops back to their families and bring some sort of stability and camaraderie in this country.
JMO

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Thanks. I tried to give my opinion and not piss anyone off at the same time

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you were very tactful..and RIGHT ON!

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i love this! it's courteous and healthy political debate.

i know a lot of other posts commented on obama as a potentially 'dangerous' candidate. i just want people to consider the following: mccain has freely used racial epithets (referring to asians) in statements made to the public/media while obama has been crucified for comments that he didn't even make himself and that he has renounced as ignorant; and Clinton had an arguably larger role in the whitewater scandal during her husband's administration than he did (not to mention the fact that she accepted hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions for the NY senate race and continues to do so since it's common practice for big corporations to buy govt leaders these days). the point: it's a dirty, mud-slinging business with plenty of ammunition in every candidate's background.

i think americans are especially nervous and cynical going into this election because we're so battered and bruised from bush's reign of terror. i urge people to look at the issues and avoid making this a personality contest based on the rhyming quality of one candidate's KENYAN last name with a SAUDI terrorist's.

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I think I love you....

I'm an independent....I'm going to vote not based on a speech a pastor gave or the presidency of someone's husband or being a prisoner of war; I'm going to do some research and will vote for the candidate who has the policies that I agree with the most. I don't let the media or other people's opinion sway the selections I make.

I think before we talk about candidates we should try to find out the facts.

Do I think Obama is the solution to the 'race problem,' absolutely not, but I do give him credit for speaking about it and not just going with what advisers or the public wanted him to say. In addition, he is willing to reach across party lines to get legislation passed...something that has not happened with the partisan politics we've had for the last 7 years.

Do I think Hillary Clinton has the foreign relations she touts, absolutely not, according to her recently release schedules as a first lady, she did just that, the duties of a first lady, which mainly means she had to meet and greet the wives of other leaders and attend public/charity events etc. BUT I do think its courageous that she did attempt universal health care, she failed, but atleast she tried.

Do I think Mc Cain's war experience make him the best candidate in a time of war, absolutely not, but I do think that he has a respect and appreciation for our armed forces, that can only be achieved when one is actually a part of it all. At the same time, the major issue that is affecting people's lives, is the economy, something Mc Cain himself admitted is not his strong suit.

All these candidates, have flaws and strengths, I think we should do some research independently from what others say and the media feeds us, so we can find our own voice, instead of repeating hearsay.

In terms of communism...I doubt that everyone in this country is just going to go with a president that's trying to turn us into a communist country...that's highly unlikely.

Also, I don't know if anyone has noticed, but Bush has an extremely low approval rating...how much of a free country are we, if we are in a war the public doesn't want, have a failing economic policy, have a president who got elected the first time with out the popular vote??? We aren't that free, if you really think about it.

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Posted by mf2009

I think any of these politicians can be dangerous if given enough power to corrupt. I will be honest to say I haven't followed the election completely but I will say this will be a monumental moment for years to come. Being black and a woman has made this process quite difficult but I feel and hope that Obama will be a fresh and better candiate for this election.

We can all play nice and sing cumbaya (sp?) and act like race and sex have nothing to do with this election but lets be realistic--It does. That doesn't mean we are going 10 steps back, we just need to recognize the problems that are still occurring in the new century.

Also Obama did state that he did not agree nor endorse the words of his preacher but still went to church where he preached. I understand that to some this could be contradictory but from someone who has grown up in a church with many many issues. If I just up and left each time my pastor or deacon said something I didn't agree with I would have been to 30 churches by now. It's about loyalty and having a strong faith in God and be able to know when to draw the line.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that Obama would be a far better President and articulate President than Bush.

And for the young lady who stated that his name reminded her of Osama (hate me if you will) it's comments like that, that bring us 10 steps back!

I just hope whomever is elected can clean up this mess Bush got us into and bring these troops back to their families and bring some sort of stability and camaraderie in this country.
JMO

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As another Black Women on this board, I wasn't going to touch this thread with a 10 foot poll and I actually went to bed a little saddened by the comments that were left before this one.

mf2009, your comment completely sums up what I was feeling. Thank you for posting this and for being a positive voice on this board.

I'm surprised how far this thread went. when i first saw it a few days ago, it had only 2 posts.

First I want to thank beram63 for posting the link bc i didn't get to see it. Basically mf2009 and novia26 summarized my feelings. ur comments were both straight up and eloquent. we cannot vote based on our feelings alone but must make educated decisions. ladies let's be smart citizens.

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Posted by novia26

In terms of communism...I doubt that everyone in this country is just going to go with a president that's trying to turn us into a communist country...that's highly unlikely.

Also, I don't know if anyone has noticed, but Bush has an extremely low approval rating...how much of a free country are we, if we are in a war the public doesn't want, have a failing economic policy, have a president who got elected the first time with out the popular vote??? We aren't that free, if you really think about it.

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Sooooo sad but yet soo true!

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Posted by mf2009

I think any of these politicians can be dangerous if given enough power to corrupt. I will be honest to say I haven't followed the election completely but I will say this will be a monumental moment for years to come. Being black and a woman has made this process quite difficult but I feel and hope that Obama will be a fresh and better candiate for this election.

We can all play nice and sing cumbaya (sp?) and act like race and sex have nothing to do with this election but lets be realistic--It does. That doesn't mean we are going 10 steps back, we just need to recognize the problems that are still occurring in the new century.

Also Obama did state that he did not agree nor endorse the words of his preacher but still went to church where he preached. I understand that to some this could be contradictory but from someone who has grown up in a church with many many issues. If I just up and left each time my pastor or deacon said something I didn't agree with I would have been to 30 churches by now. It's about loyalty and having a strong faith in God and be able to know when to draw the line.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that Obama would be a far better President and articulate President than Bush.

And for the young lady who stated that his name reminded her of Osama (hate me if you will) it's comments like that, that bring us 10 steps back!

I just hope whomever is elected can clean up this mess Bush got us into and bring these troops back to their families and bring some sort of stability and camaraderie in this country.
JMO

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