Poor Katie

check this out. Tom is such an A$$link

Why do I have no sympathy for her?

Ah yes, because she chose this 'life'...

i used to feel bad for her. i thought she'd snap out of it. not anymore!

I hear about this no drugs thing on the radio this morning. It is unbelievable.

I do not feel bad for her. She is rich She can have anything that she wants. If this is her choice so be it.

Did she know about the no screaming thing though?


I have a friend that gave birth at home 3 times, no drugs--but she had short labors all 3 times. Some people prefer it that way, which is fine, but can you real control screaming or groaning in pain?

of course this religion was thought up by a man - what an idiot

I am assuming L Ron Hubbard is a man right? Typical. Let's see Tom Cruise push a 7 pound person out of his body without a sound. So I guess this is why his first wife adopted????

Sorry-no screaming may keep the baby from being traumatized, but what about the mother?

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Posted by carlsbride
So I guess this is why his first wife adopted????

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That's what I was wondering

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Posted by tourist

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Posted by carlsbride
So I guess this is why his first wife adopted????

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That's what I was wondering

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She was actually his second wife (first was Mimi Rogers) and yes, that must explain it.

i thought that he couldnt have children and thats why he never had children with his other wives, hey maybe its paceys child lol

He is pathetic! I can't stand him! Or her for that matter. She will be the one giving birth! I would do it anyway. I couldn't deal w/ all that massive pain w/out drugs!

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Posted by SomethingBlu

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Posted by tourist

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Posted by carlsbride
So I guess this is why his first wife adopted????

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That's what I was wondering

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She was actually his second wife (first was Mimi Rogers) and yes, that must explain it.

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Actually I read this morning that Nicole Kidman didn't convert to Scientology, so I don't know if that would apply to her, unless Tom was trying to keep that too.

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Posted by SuzBride

of course this religion was thought up by a man - what an idiot

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They all were thought up by men
But this one (L. Ron Hubbard, I think) seems like he just hated women.

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Posted by justshir

geeez! i'm so out of hte loop! i had no idea she was prego! i'm so shocked!

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It was just annoucned yesterday-- you're not that far behind!

Does scientology really count as a religion? It based on the belief of a higher being or beings? I'm not sure if that is required for something to be considered a religion, but iI guess that's how I would define it.

that article is the most insane, completely moronic thing i have read in quite some time. Screaming during childbirth will tramautize the child? If that is true, then there are millions of people walking around tramautized from their own birth. I'm pretty sure my mom screamed a whole lot, and i'm ok. Well at least i think so, DH may think otherwise, lol.

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Posted by MonkeyLuv

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Posted by tourist


Does scientology really count as a religion? It based on the belief of a higher being or beings? I'm not sure if that is required for something to be considered a religion, but iI guess that's how I would define it.

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I guess at this point, and taking a cue from the scientologists, someone could declare Spongebob a higher being!! And they could get all crazy and psycho about him!

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But who isn't?