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Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Original post by Xelindrya

Ok, awake now.
Sorry about last night.. I started to crash hard. Odd how your body shuts down on you like that. I rambled like an idiot, I hope to be more clear now.

Ok, so yes I refuse to see the movie (or at least pay for it)

Now the tickets are free so you could say “Hey it’s a free movie go for it” But I feel like its not exactly without strings attached. Nothing with religion in my experience has ever come with no strings attached.

The more I hear about bibles being handed out and Church sponsored free tickets the more I get turned off. If the Church (any of them) wants me to see this movie to ‘learn’. I assume they know I wouldn’t actually pay the ridiculous high price of $10 a movie ticket to see yet another interpretation of something I read in the bible I can’t recall how many times and something I see on every other channel for a week during Easter, then there’s GOT to be a catch. I’d rather spend my money on entertainment than seeing Christ crucified, again. They are absolutely right.

Honestly just my opinion but if it were just a promotion for the movie then other folks, OTHER THAN CHURCHES, would offer free tickets. Honestly, it’s creeping me out that churches are so heavily pushing this movie. Besides.. you think they are going to say “Oh I’m sorry, you’re already a believer, I can only give these free tickets to those who would benefit” …? I’m sure most of the tickets will go to church followers.

All that being said, lets say I just had free time and someone HANDED me tickets (cause I can’t imagine giving my name and address to a church, I’d rather get Bridal Junk mail than Church Junk mail). Lets say I go see it. I would feel as if I was inside a church all over again (since I believe any place where those who gather to worship in his name *IS* a church). I would feel like I couldn’t express myself as easily. I’m not a talker in a movie but I’ve been known from time to time to laugh at the stupidity of a movie if I find it funny. Usually I have no problem. But Religious people are taking this movie really seriously. I would feel that I had to watch everything I did and be very careful not to offend. Because A) I DON’T WANT TO OFFEND and B) God help me if I did. See if I’m honest and truthful in my opinions, I have this nasty habit of standing by them. Worse, I don’t back down. When it happens in a church I’m more comfortable, but when it happens in public you must beware. I have learned some folks are religious zealots and take great offense to a person like me who questions their beliefs or expresses their own beliefs that are opposite of that zealot. Zealots can be VERY scary people.

So to summarize (cause I’ve gotten out of hand) .. I was curious about this movie, yes, now I think I’ll just wait until it comes on Cable TV. Free tickets? I doubt it’s actually “free”.

Oddly enough, I will go see the DaVinci Code when it hits theatres hehe.

Actually if the drama of this dies down I may go see it then. When I know the people in the theatre are there just to watch a movie not push a mission or on a quest of knowledge.

It’s Hollywood people! ENTERTAINMENT!

Again, to those who do want to go see it, have fun and send back reviews. Kudos to those who are passing on the info so others who WANT to see it can see it for free. I think it’s a nice gesture by the Churches to pay for tickets.

I think that covers what it. Its an odd ball to try to wrap my mind around and then articulate into some type of understandable sense with words, but I hope I got it out ok.

Hugs to all!
This is just my opinion not really meant to start an argument. I put it on a new post just cause I don’t want to mar the post that was in all honestly just being helpful. (Thanks Kristin - June262004)

xjulietx Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by CIMINOK

Posted by xjulietx

Posted by CIMINOK

Posted by xjulietx


We are talking about stuff that happened so many years ago that it is incomprehensible.



I dont think it makes it any less important.


I'm not saying it isn't important, I just don't think it warrants pages and pages of arguments between women who are hurt or offended or creeped out or confused. It is religion, some of us have one, some of us don't. There is no need to argue.



Gotcha



And look at them, they keep posting away. There is probably smoke coming off of some of the keyboards and steam coming out of their ears.
Misty Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by KarenK122

All I am going to say is that this movie is a story about the life of Jesus. It is not discriminating against anybody's religion or faith. When Jesus was put to death..it was his fate to die. EVERYONE put him to death, the romans, the jews, his followers and God himself. If Jesus did not die then the basis for most christian religious would not be here.



BINGO!
Xelindrya Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by xjulietx

I'm not saying it isn't important, I just don't think it warrants pages and pages of arguments between women who are hurt or offended or creeped out or confused. It is religion, some of us have one, some of us don't. There is no need to argue.



Some posts just take off. It wasnt meant to be a debate on who is or isnt responsible for Christ's death. It wasn't meant to find out if the bible has or has not been revised and when. But I am honestly learning a lot from the more secular in here.
Ronnie&Theresa Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by PrincessRose

Posted by tammyjill

Posted by PrincessRose



I Once you are a Christian, you are not a Jew. The two things are mutually exclusive.

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This is so not true, myself and so many people are christian and Jewish, there are millions of people who become a Christian and you are still Jewish. There are Messianic Jews, Jewish people who follow ALL religious holidays of the jewish people and believe in Christ, they celebrate, passover, hanukkah, etc..... plus TOns of Ministries whether it is The Chosen People's Ministry who send me things all the time, Ill find their website for you or Jews for Jesus, sounds funny, but they exist. Ill edit this when I find the site but what you said above is simply not true, I go to a charismatic church where there is a Jewish Pastor, Father Dave, who looks just like a Rabbi- others just call themselves 'completed Jews' If you ever read the Old and New testament from cover to cover you will find TONS of references In the OLD testament that refer to Jewish being the Son of God and that is what convinced me.


Actually, if you read a little more, you will find that Jesus did NOT fulfill the criteria of being the Messiah as written in the Old Testament. For just ONE example, the Messiah was supposed to be descended from King David. He only has that connection through his father, Joseph. However, Christians believe that his father was G-d, and not Joseph, and therefore they contradict themselves.

I am not going to argue over the validity of Christianity. It doesn't work for me. It works for you and I'm Glad.

HOWEVER, Messianic Jews are not Jews.

The Jews for Jesus movement was created by a man working for the interfaith outreach department of a protestant organization, who realized that some Jews would never convert out of a sense of duty to their heritage. He started this movement to make those people feel okay with it - They could still be Jews, and 'be saved' at the same time. However, being Jewish means believing ONE G-D. Not 3 entities of one god. There is nothing about G-d's Son, there is nothing about worship of a messiah, only that one day The Messiah will come and bring about a messianic age of peace (which, btw, Jesus didn't do, and I KNOW Christians are saying he'll do it next time, but I'm waiting for next time). Belief in Jesus as the Messiah automatically contradicts everything the Jews believe in, thus making Judaism and Christianity mutually exclusive. NEITHER ONE IS BETTER. They are just not one and the same. As for their celebrating Passover and Chanukah, I suppose you are also saying that celebrating Christmas and Easter with trees, presents, and candy can make someone a Christian, yes?





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I am not going to argue over the validity of Christianity. It doesn't work for me. It works for you and I'm Glad.



WOAH!!!!!!!! That statement had my G STRING in a BUNCH!
HOw dare you say that!!!!!!!!!! People have such little knowledge and they can still draw conclusions on ones FAITH

YOu are going to sit there and tell me the faith and LORD I believe in hasn't come yet

YOu have alot of nerve

You must be living in some SHELL bc people like you make me sick!
HearzBellz Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

X... I'll send you the notes from my Theology classes I took here at St. John's....... they are conflicting, but insightful
Xelindrya Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by HearzBellz

X... I'll send you the notes from my Theology classes I took here at St. John's....... they are conflicting, but insightful


COOl!!
Does it come with a free ticket, rosary or bible? (JUST KIDDING, its a joke sarcasm, no roasting needed)
Becky Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by PrincessRose


I am not going to argue over the validity of Christianity.


Actually, by saying the things that you have on this thread you are doing just that and I would appreciate it if you would please stop. I have never and will never point out to a Jewish person what specifically I don't agree with about their religion and why, because it is EXTREMELY disrespectful. I also would not repeatedly post that some religious belief of anyone that is different from mine is a LIE (in all caps).

shamma Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by PrincessRose

As for their celebrating Passover and Chanukah, I suppose you are also saying that celebrating Christmas and Easter with trees, presents, and candy can make someone a Christian, yes?


People celebrate these things for either the commercilization aspect of it or b/c of what they were taught growing up, but that does not automatically make them Chrisitian. Chrisitianity to me is more than following a holiday, it is in your heart.
HearzBellz Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

X... LMAO..... none taken... trust me, I didn't take these classes by choice, but much like this thread, they proved to be quite amusing, yet informative.
Ronnie&Theresa Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by Xelindrya

Posted by HearzBellz

X... I'll send you the notes from my Theology classes I took here at St. John's....... they are conflicting, but insightful


COOl!!
Does it come with a free ticket, rosary or bible? (JUST KIDDING, its a joke sarcasm, no roasting needed)


You think being scarastic about my faith is funny..

YOu are diguting as well.
Some of you really are pathetic pieces of SZHSSSSSSSTS!
yabbobay Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

I think Princess Rose was just explaining her first point...that one cannot be Jewish and Christian at the same time...just like Tammy explained they could...



Ronnie&Theresa Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

I dont' give an F what she was trying to do.
People can be anything they want to be

I can be blue if I want to be!

People MAKE ME SICK!

xjulietx Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Why don't we all relax and get some lunch? This has gone on too long

HearzBellz Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Theresa.....try READING the posts before responding to them. No one is making fun of your faith or denying the validity of any faith. We were merely presenting conflicting views, which is what intelligent people do when they are learning about something.

BTW.... never call me or anyone else a piece of anything. If you have nothing intelligent to say to me, then say nothing.
HearzBellz Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

xjulietx... I second that..... I'll have a salad..... anyone else?

PrincessRose Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)


I am not going to argue over the validity of Christianity. It doesn't work for me. It works for you and I'm Glad.



WOAH!!!!!!!! That statement had my G STRING in a BUNCH!
HOw dare you say that!!!!!!!!!! People have such little knowledge and they can still draw conclusions on ones FAITH

YOu are going to sit there and tell me the faith and LORD I believe in hasn't come yet

YOu have alot of nerve

You must be living in some SHELL bc people like you make me sick!


I'm sorry that you mistook that statement for what it was not intended as. I have said a million times over and over and over that everyone needs to find their own way, and be respectful of each other. If you found what I said to be DISRESPECTFUL, I'm sorry.

Someone asked me a question about something I said and I answered it. If I didn't answer it it would have been more rude. So I'm caught between a rock in a hard place.
xjulietx Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by HearzBellz

xjulietx... I second that..... I'll have a salad..... anyone else?


You read my mind. I'm going up the street to get me a Jazzy's salad. I am very excited!!
NYCHICK Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by Ronnie&Theresa

I dont' give an F what she was trying to do.
People can be anything they want to be

I can be blue if I want to be!

People MAKE ME SICK!



You are pretty disgusting yourself by being that disrespectful to people. Does your faith disgust manners????? ewww.........
wacky Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Holy ****, I didnt realize there were so many Holy Rollers on this board. This is great I just learned a whole bunch of stuff.

Im going to see it, I dont care what anyone else says.

I dont think that a whole revolution will come out of this.
Ronnie&Theresa Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Melani I can do and say whatever I want to say! I guess you haven't seen that about me yet.. And I wasnt' speaking to you at all
when I do you will know it

who are you to be presenting conflicting views on peoples faiths?
I don't think you have that authority and I guess you don't know the ways of social life.


NO SEX POLICTIS And Religious Talks ever.
YOu can ( and I Am not specificing you)
Insult alot of people..
It just shows ignorance

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