I am thinking seriously about going back to school to become a teacher - either Kindergarten or 1st grade. I was just wondering if you have to be certified and have your graduate degree to teach in Nassau? I am pretty sure that in NYC you can get a job with only the certification...but I would rather work in Nassau...
Also, if anyone has any tips on how to get started in this process, it would be greatly appreciated!
swags1016
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To work in a public school in Nassau and Suffolk you must be certified. You can sub and not be certified but you must be certified to be a teacher.
christy
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You need state certification to teach in public schools.
BoogieDownBride
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Do I need to be enrolled in a degree program to get certified? Or could I do it with just my BA, which is in English?
swags1016
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You need to have the requirements done to get a provisional certification
Elementary Education classes, a concentration and the required tests. You will fall under the new requirements so you may want to check out the NYS Dept of Education website since the requirements change as of tomorrow.
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I dont have any answers, just wanted to WISH You luck, im in the same boat, on my road to getting certified and getting my masters. I do know that you MUST have your Masters eventually even if you get it while you teach. and you MUST Be at least pre-certified to teach.
Maybe you can sit with a counselor at the school of your choice. You will get step by step advice! good luck!
Jamie- I forgot that you can sub without being certified, YAY ! Now, can I somehow sub and use it as student teaching credit? I would only be able to do it 2X or 3X a week not five days...
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Another question, I just went on the Queens College website and I'm looking at the program for MAT in Early Childhood Ed, and there's one thing here that I'm not clear about:
Students must show documentation of 50 hours prior experience working with children in educational classroom settings. 50 hours documentation forms are available in the department office, Powdermaker 054.
What does this mean? Sorry if I'm being dumb, but does that mean I have to show 50 hours of work with children BEFORE I start the program? If that's the case, how would I get this experience?
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Anna, non certified subs are last on our list to call - just an FYI. They will call certified subs first and then go down the list. Subbing cannot replace student teaching at all! You must student teach. The only way I have seen people get around this, and I am in NO way recommending this is: 2 girls from my department never student taught, it was waived because we are a shortage area and and they needed teachers in some bad schools in the city. So they were able to use that year of teaching to replace their student teaching. But it was an agreement with the state and the NYBOE. Now both of these girls had a lot of problems their first year because they never had anyone guide them through good teaching methods and bad, things like that.
Hope that info helps.
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This is a master's program? I am assumming that it is geared more toward teacher's working on their Masters and that is what they are talking about. Do they have a MST?
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Students must show documentation of 50 hours prior experience working with children in educational classroom settings. 50 hours documentation forms are available in the department office, Powdermaker 054. QUOTE]
Hmmm, I don't know either, you probably want to check with the college.
good luck! I teach kinder for the past 5 years and LOVE it! I'm sure you will too!
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Thanks Jamie. I agree that I wouldnt wanna skip any process where I get guidance and support, just wanted to see if I can combine my efforts
I know someone who was able to use his teaching as student teaching credit and he's been teaching a few years now.
Im just so anxious to get in those doors!
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This is a master's program? I am assumming that it is geared more toward teacher's working on their Masters and that is what they are talking about. Do they have a MST?
It says its for initial certification. And the academic requirements for the program are pretty much just a liberal arts and sciences bachelors degree. So it sounds to me like I wouldn't need any prior experience. I am confused! It would probably be good to give a couple of prospective schools a call to see what the deal is with this.
Thanks to all for your advice! Hopefully this will all work out!
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i am going through this process right now. i am getting certified for math, grades 7-12. from what i have been told - since we are starting out with undergrad degrees in something other than education, you need your graduate degree before you can become certified. since i am doing secondary ed, i also need 36 undergrad credits in my specialty (which is what i am finishing up now). after that, i need 30 grad 'classroom' credits, a 6 credit project and student teaching, which is 9 credits. so all in all, my masters will be the 45 credits.
i don't know where you plan on attending, but dowling has been great with all of their info.
I think to try the QC certification...you have to meet the content requirements in your undergrad...
36 credits in a subject (for upper grades) and I THINK 6 credits in each math, science, english, soc st, foreign language AND 9 credits in reading...(again I am not sure...)
QC certification program lets you take the undergrad education courses...and then student teaching...you will still need to get your MA within 5 years after this
it is RARE to teach without student teaching on LI...BUT if you are willing to NYC has emergency special ed cert. and you can use that teaching experience (I thought 2 years) to replace your student teaching...(my old roommate did this)
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One thing I have realized, regulations are always changing in NY for any type of teaching. It is so hard to keep up with and imo unless you are actively teaching in NY, it is hard to reply to this. I know I personally cannot keep up with what they want and dont want.
One thing I have realized, regulations are always changing in NY for any type of teaching. It is so hard to keep up with and imo unless you are actively teaching in NY, it is hard to reply to this. I know I personally cannot keep up with what they want and dont want.
even so...I have my permanant NYS license...and never have to do a stich of work to keep it (except not commit any heinous crimes)...so even people who ARE teaching in NY might not know...everyone is under different regulations....but there are basic principles that reamin standard...
I just thought of something else – if I go for my degree part-time, how long can I expect the process to take? Also, how long will I be able to keep working before I have to stop in order to do student teaching, etc?
I’m trying to decide whether to go full or part-time, and with the wedding coming up and wanting to buy a place, I am not sure we can afford to live on only one income…
I got my BA in education...so I didn't have to worry about working and student teaching...but I did need to do an internship for my MS...I was lucky b/c the school I was in had 12 periods...so I was able to teach my 5 and do my internship in the guidance dept...but it was tough...
my thoughts are that most likely you would have to quit your day job...or maybe if you give your notice...you can work out a PT opportunity to train your replacement and do both...
but that should be the last semester...as for classes...its whatever you think you can handle...and what works with your schedule...6-9 credits a semester would be my guess...(although 9 can be very draining while working FT)
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I got my Masters in elementary ed at Pace in NYC. Their program is geared towards career changers. It took 2 years working and taking classes at night. I quit my job the last semester so I could student teach.
