how many of you are going to wait to have tenure to have a baby?
Mel329
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cherilicious16
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i have tenure already, but I would wait if I did not. Especially in the NYC BOE~ things are in chaos right now with the restructuring and klein isnt teacher friendly
August12
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I have tenure.... but I would also definitely wait if I did not.
Bride4Mike07
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already tenured.....been tenured for years now...so I guess my answer is it wouldn't have mattered to me. I wanted babies from long ago. I think we'll just wait a while after the wedding to plan for babies. We want a house first. Wow, I just sounded so old there! LOL..and I'm only 32!
Especially in the NYC BOE~ things are in chaos right now with the restructuring and klein isnt teacher friendly
Well said!!!! That is definitely making me want to change careers.
JGirl11297
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Yes, I would like to wait for tenure, but I need to find a probabtionary job first.....
Snickers76
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I don't know if it really matters. I don't think you will lose a job if you decide to go on maternity leave. You have the union to help you out with that. I have had tenure for years and my big question is should I plan my pregnancy around a sabbatical??
Bride4Mike07
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With the NYC DOE, there's no such thing as maternity leave. The system is very antiquated and sexist. What you have to do is use up your days from your CAR, which for the average person who uses their days, you're lucky if you have 25 in there after 5 years. Once those days have been exhausted, then you would have to borrow days. Once there are no more days for you to borrow, then you have to take a leave, of which you get paid but not through the system b/c those days have already been used, and it's not a leave w/ pay. You have to file for 'disability' which does not leave you much after taxes. In any case, the process is long and tedious and the pay during the leave stinks!!!! I would schedule pregnancies during vacation breaks, or summers. BTW, Snickers76, I believe you mentioned something about sabbaticals? In NYC you're allowed a sabbatical up to 1 year after 14 yrs of service, and 6 mos after 7 years. I believe w/ the new contract, that was removed? I'm not 100% on that though....
Lcakes
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I will most certainly wait till I have tenure to have a baby. It's a personal choice but I would feel more secure knowing that I 100% will have a job before I have children.
Snickers76
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Hey Bride4Mike--Sabbaticals were not taken out of the last contract. They are making it VERY hard to actually get one approved, but they are still around. You can apply after seven years for a half semester (spring only) and 14 years for a whole year. I am eligible to apply in September. You have to get a DAYTIME graduate courseload approved for your sabbatical work, which is difficult as most grad classes are offered at night. The BOE has all kinds of plans for maternity planning and I do believe that there is a 'leave,' but it is unpaid after the CAR and 30 borrowed days are used up. The UFT has a whole section on this...my friend just printed it out for me...I'll see if I can link ya...
Snickers76
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From the UFT website:
Are you pregnant or planning to start a family? You should know that you have the right to take an unpaid leave of absence at any time during your pregnancy or during your baby’s first years.
A maternity leave of absence is available to regularly appointed female staff members. You can begin this leave without pay at any time during your pregnancy, but it cannot be longer than six weeks after the birth of the baby. Your health benefits continue during your maternity leave.
If your recuperation requires more time, you can use days in your sick bank (Cumulative Absence Reserve or CAR) or borrow up to 20 sick days if necessary. You also are entitled to a “calendar month” grace period, which means you effectively get “paid” for all weekends and holidays for the “calendar month” following the completion of the days in your sick bank. Your payroll secretary can advise you as to how many days you have in your sick bank and can give you the necessary forms to apply for your leave of absence.
If you are disabled as the result of pregnancy, the UFT Welfare Fund will provide up to eight additional months of medical benefits, identical to what you had while working.
The federal Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA) also provides up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave for maternity or care of a child under age 1, adoption, or the start of foster care. You are eligible if you have worked for a total of at least 12 months as of the date the leave commences (the 12 months need not be consecutive) or for 1,250 hours over the previous 12 months. The leave can be intermittent or involve reducing your work schedule. Your health benefits will continue during a FMLA leave.
Either parent can also apply for this type of child-care leave. This unpaid leave, which does not include health benefits, begins six weeks after the birth of your baby and can last for a period of up to four years from the September following the birth of the baby. Your school secretary can give you the necessary forms to fill out.
If you have additional questions about maternity leaves, child-care leaves or FMLA leaves, call your UFT borough office for assistance.
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I am ending my second year of my probationary period... and we are DEFINITELY waiting until I am tenured in June of 2008 to start trying. I want security in the fact that i have a job when i come back.
Also, peopel in my district have told me that it's best to try to conceive in january or February.... that way you're due in Sept. or Oct. you phyiscally show up the first month and then they hire a leave replacement and then you are entitled to antoher year for your maternity leave. So essentially, you can have almost 2 years home with your kid... this may vary by district, but i've seen girls do that in my district.
ALL districts by law must give you at least 12 weeks (tenured or not)under that Family Act (forget the name). ALso, check out your benefits.... my disability insurance will give me the opportunity to extend those 12 weeks WITH half-pay if necessary.
Munchkn16
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Me. But I'll be tenured next June, and my wedding is a month before... hopefully I won't have to worry about the two coinciding.
Bride4Mike07
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Thanks for the info Snickers76.... I hear it all the time from my friends, who have taken their leaves for pregnancies, but I just tune them out....Can't really take a sabbatical unless I chose a whole different major/license area. Right now I'm at top salary C6 + PD...can't go anywhere! so doing another Masters in Education or post graduate work would be painful for me!!! It's not worth the sabbatical, although I have the time, been in the system 10 yrs I would rather just leave altogether.
kat74
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I'm getting my tenure in September! But, yeah--I would wait if that wasn't the case.
drpepper318
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I don't know. If I were older and I really wanted to have kids soon but I didn't have tenure, I probably wouldn't wait just for tenure. But, I'm in no rush to have kids any time soon so I never think about it & I can't say for sure.
