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JenBill61210 Posted:

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Also, I have to say i am not happy with either candidate. I dont know of either them can really step up, we have too many problems to fix. I think one can be better than the other but doesn't mean theres a candidate right now that can clean up the mess. At this time we really needed a star candidate.



ITA!



i hope after the debates I'll have a better idea of who might do a better job. I am positive they will each debate about what is the best way to get out of this mess, lets see who has a better plan. Well let me rephrase that and say a better REALISTIC plan and not just tell us what we want to hear.



ITA, as I am still undecided between candidates as well. I was kinda pissed when i heard McCain didn't want to debate though. I think the people really need to hear their views on things NOW especially w/ whats been going on.
jtgarsik Posted:

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i like what matilde said! i also think that no matter what decisions are made, u simply just can't please everyone. A lot of people are upset over the war & rightfully so...but i gaurantee if there was another attack on our country there would be plenty of people sitting back & yelling 'WT H IS BUSH AND WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING BACK?!'

kwim??



The war is not because of 9/11.



didn't say that. i'm just saying that's how people are & u can't please everyone.
TheLadyJ Posted:

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but it was not like 'Oh, this law was passed and everything went to hell'. This law allowed alot of people to take advantage of the hard-working middle class.

So, as much as I would like to keep the government out of things (like the Republicans), I believe people and corporations cannot be trusted with deregulation. Because the greedy people will always be there to take advantage. So, I think the government needs to step in, and SHOULD HAVE stepped in years ago.

What Posted:

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Posted by jtgarsik


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Posted by jtgarsik

i like what matilde said! i also think that no matter what decisions are made, u simply just can't please everyone. A lot of people are upset over the war & rightfully so...but i gaurantee if there was another attack on our country there would be plenty of people sitting back & yelling 'WT H IS BUSH AND WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING BACK?!'

kwim??



The war is not because of 9/11.



didn't say that.



but i gaurantee if there was another attack on our country there would be plenty of people sitting back & yelling 'WT H IS BUSH AND WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING BACK?!'



I'm not following your line of thought

If there was another attack on this country, I still wouldn't want Bush in office.

Espo22 Posted:

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Posted by ant n tilde


Posted by Espo22


Posted by ant n tilde


Posted by Espo22

Also, I have to say i am not happy with either candidate. I dont know of either them can really step up, we have too many problems to fix. I think one can be better than the other but doesn't mean theres a candidate right now that can clean up the mess. At this time we really needed a star candidate.



ITA!



i hope after the debates I'll have a better idea of who might do a better job. I am positive they will each debate about what is the best way to get out of this mess, lets see who has a better plan. Well let me rephrase that and say a better REALISTIC plan and not just tell us what we want to hear.

And off topic, but what happened to the US producing stuff, we at least used to make cars but now what do we have. Everybody prefers to buy foreign cars, we import alot but what do we export. That would help the economy.



ITA with this too. DH makes fun of me because not only do I refuse to buy a foreign car but I wouldn't allow him to get one either ( and he needed my credit so HA! ) A car will be my biggest purchase ( other than a house ) and I think it is important for me to only buy American. Surprisingly, my parents taught me that and we were not 'allowed' to buy foreign cars while we were living at home. My father always jokes that even if he could afford a Italian car, he would still buy American because why should he support the economy for a country that he doesnt live in.

I will always buy ANY American product over a foreign product IF it is possible, and it would be nice if it were a bit easier!



Its so true but its very hard to find american products. I am sure if most of us look at things in our home, very few of us will have anything that is American. Maybe the US should start thinking again about the exporting business.
jtgarsik Posted:

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Posted by jtgarsik


Posted by What


Posted by jtgarsik

i like what matilde said! i also think that no matter what decisions are made, u simply just can't please everyone. A lot of people are upset over the war & rightfully so...but i gaurantee if there was another attack on our country there would be plenty of people sitting back & yelling 'WT H IS BUSH AND WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING BACK?!'

kwim??



The war is not because of 9/11.



didn't say that.



but i gaurantee if there was another attack on our country there would be plenty of people sitting back & yelling 'WT H IS BUSH AND WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING BACK?!'



I'm not following your line of thought

If there was another attack on this country, I still wouldn't want Bush in office.




i added to my above post saying ' i didn't say that...all i meant was that that's how people are & u can't please everyone'....meaning there's always going to be someone who thinks they have a better idea..that's all. not saying which is better & which is not...just simply saying that everyone has an opinion.
Espo22 Posted:

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Posted by jenny8484


Posted by Espo22


Posted by ant n tilde


Posted by Espo22

Also, I have to say i am not happy with either candidate. I dont know of either them can really step up, we have too many problems to fix. I think one can be better than the other but doesn't mean theres a candidate right now that can clean up the mess. At this time we really needed a star candidate.



ITA!



i hope after the debates I'll have a better idea of who might do a better job. I am positive they will each debate about what is the best way to get out of this mess, lets see who has a better plan. Well let me rephrase that and say a better REALISTIC plan and not just tell us what we want to hear.



ITA, as I am still undecided between candidates as well. I was kinda pissed when i heard McCain didn't want to debate though. I think the people really need to hear their views on things NOW especially w/ whats been going on.



I know its so weird because in the past I always felt strongly about a candidate. Now I keep going back and forth. I did feel strongly about one candidate but he is out of the race.
PegaLega Posted:

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Posted by Espo22

I see that everybody is criticising the republicans, but do you see that it was Clinton who passed the bill that allowed people to buy homes with zero down.

And Democrats spend more than republicans, its just the way it is and the whole philosophy behind the parties. This is why they say democrats raise taxes. But a big part is that democrats believe in more government spending. Here are statistics.

When a Republican held the White House, spending fell by an average of 0.70% per year; with a Democrat in the White House, it grew by an average of 5.98%.
With Republican control of Congress, spending fell by an average of 2.12% per year; with Democrats in control, spending rose by an average of 4.82% annually.
With the GOP in control of both the White House and Congress, spending fell by an average of 6.85% per year. It is worth noting that this is a very small sample — just two years (fiscal years 1954–55). During the twelve years that the Democrats controlled Congress and the White House, spending rose by an average of 6.55% per year



THANK YOU DENISE!!!!!!!!
Usually I dont get involved in these bc I just dont...but CLINTON is the one who screwed this up-NOT BUSH! And that should and be known by all.



Economic crisis aside, right now, what has Bush done to actually help this country?



That has nothing to do with anything or the topic at hand. Im just saying that there are things that are blamed on Bush that were Clintons doing or not doing. Im not going to get into a debate with anyone on this site about politics-sorry just wont do it.

Like I said CLINTON is the reason not BUSH, place blame where blame is due.
What Posted:

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Posted by jtgarsik


Posted by What


Posted by jtgarsik


Posted by What


Posted by jtgarsik

i like what matilde said! i also think that no matter what decisions are made, u simply just can't please everyone. A lot of people are upset over the war & rightfully so...but i gaurantee if there was another attack on our country there would be plenty of people sitting back & yelling 'WT H IS BUSH AND WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING BACK?!'

kwim??



The war is not because of 9/11.



didn't say that.



but i gaurantee if there was another attack on our country there would be plenty of people sitting back & yelling 'WT H IS BUSH AND WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING BACK?!'



I'm not following your line of thought

If there was another attack on this country, I still wouldn't want Bush in office.




i added to my above post saying ' i didn't say that...all i meant was that that's how people are & u can't please everyone'....meaning there's always going to be someone who thinks they have a better idea..that's all. not saying which is better & which is not...just simply saying that everyone has an opinion.



oh ok. gotcha.
jtgarsik Posted:

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i vote for amy

JenBill61210 Posted:

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Posted by jtgarsik

i vote for amy




wifetobe Posted:

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PegaLega Posted:

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Posted by jtgarsik

i vote for amy





I seriously just threw up in my mouth a lil bit
jtgarsik Posted:

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who wants to choose her running mate???
KittyGags Posted:

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Posted by Espo22


Posted by jenny8484


Posted by Espo22


Posted by ant n tilde


Posted by Espo22

Also, I have to say i am not happy with either candidate. I dont know of either them can really step up, we have too many problems to fix. I think one can be better than the other but doesn't mean theres a candidate right now that can clean up the mess. At this time we really needed a star candidate.



ITA!



i hope after the debates I'll have a better idea of who might do a better job. I am positive they will each debate about what is the best way to get out of this mess, lets see who has a better plan. Well let me rephrase that and say a better REALISTIC plan and not just tell us what we want to hear.



ITA, as I am still undecided between candidates as well. I was kinda pissed when i heard McCain didn't want to debate though. I think the people really need to hear their views on things NOW especially w/ whats been going on.



I know its so weird because in the past I always felt strongly about a candidate. Now I keep going back and forth. I did feel strongly about one candidate but he is out of the race.



Same here...mine was Ron Paul...who was yours?

I'm pissed that running for president is all about who has the most money, and not who is really suited to do the job.
HM807 Posted:

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Posted by lizzie217

When Clinton was in office their was an economic surplus not a defecit...now with that logic you can borrow more because our economy was flourishing..it is Bush who within the last 8 years should have stepped in and regulated the amounts borrowed and how out of control the situation got....it took these huge companies folding for Bush to step in....not to mention the impact this war has had on our dollar and our economy...

Clinton is to blame? Why ? When he made these decison we were flourshing and it made sense to borrow bc the economy was doing well , when it took a turn (mostly as a result of the dollar lagging bc of poor decisons made by the current adminstration) it would have been the CURRENT adminstration's responsibility to change things based on what was CURRENTLY going on...to say its Clinton's fault bc of something that was enacted when our we had a surplus and were booming is really ridicilous,..Bush has been a sleep at the wheel for 8 yrs and its Clintons fault? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




Espo22 Posted:

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Posted by KittyGags


Posted by Espo22


Posted by jenny8484


Posted by Espo22


Posted by ant n tilde


Posted by Espo22

Also, I have to say i am not happy with either candidate. I dont know of either them can really step up, we have too many problems to fix. I think one can be better than the other but doesn't mean theres a candidate right now that can clean up the mess. At this time we really needed a star candidate.



ITA!



i hope after the debates I'll have a better idea of who might do a better job. I am positive they will each debate about what is the best way to get out of this mess, lets see who has a better plan. Well let me rephrase that and say a better REALISTIC plan and not just tell us what we want to hear.



ITA, as I am still undecided between candidates as well. I was kinda pissed when i heard McCain didn't want to debate though. I think the people really need to hear their views on things NOW especially w/ whats been going on.



I know its so weird because in the past I always felt strongly about a candidate. Now I keep going back and forth. I did feel strongly about one candidate but he is out of the race.



Same here...mine was Ron Paul...who was yours?

I'm pissed that running for president is all about who has the most money, and not who is really suited to do the job.



i liked Giuliani, i hope that doesnt start a debate hahaha. Last time i mentioned this was on NYE, we stopped by my dads party late at night and when i said this, i had about 5 ppl attack me and go nuts for that one statement
mandab Posted:

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Posted by MEMEJOR

One of my co workers wrote this to CNN

Dear CNN,

I have been watching the news for the last two days and the more I watch the angrier I am getting. My husband I have been trying to understand how the US got into this precarious economic position and how it will affect our family.

I have listened to many of the experts and this is my understanding in simplistic terms. President Clinton passed a bill to decrease the requirements that were needed to purchase a home so that more Americans could attain the American dream. This in turn increased the demand for housing and inflated prices. Americans obtained interest only mortgages with zero down on houses that they couldn't afford. When the time came to start paying the principals that Americans could not afford they started foreclosing and housing prices started dropping because the demand started dropping as well. When housing prices were inflated the Fat Cats at the Wall Street firms took the inflated equity and started purchasing more mortgages. When housing prices dropped and people foreclosed these mortgages that they held devalued and they found themselves in the same boat as the American Home buyer owing more than what the property was actually worth.

So here are my concerns as an American Tax payer. In the last year my rent has gone up, my utilities have gone up, my car insurance has gone up, my food bill has gone up, my gas bill has gone up; my tax bill has gone up; starting to get the picture? We do not live on credit; we pay cash for most things. We have a car loan and have two credit cards where the line of credit is something we can afford to pay off. We do not have any savings because we live paycheck to paycheck. As far as the government is concerned we are rich (we look good on paper) as far as I am concerned we are barely making it. My husband and I both have to work full time and work second jobs. This takes away from my children and the quality of our lives. We looked at buying a home a few years back and we just couldn't afford it. All our friends thought we were crazy to continue renting but now my friends are foreclosing or trying to sell their homes. The ironic thing is we are financially in a better position than they are because we live within our means. This is reality.

My father taught me the value of credit. He told me when I was younger that I should imagine a Fat Cat with his feet on his desk smoking a cigar and laughing as he was making money on my hard work while he was sitting back doing nothing. So anytime I spend money on my credit cards I think of that it’s a great incentive to keep my spending in line.

So this is what I picture when my congress discusses this financial bail out.

I am angry because:

My husband and I are responsible and live within our means what about those people who acted irresponsible?

Why did my government not follow up on the Bill that was passed during the Clinton Administration?

Why is Obama so concerned about a debate when he should be our voice in Washington during this crisis? 'You can reach me by phone'
Is he kidding me?

Why is the Press criticizing McCain for stepping up for the people and doing what we pay him to do which is to pass legislation to help us during this time?

Why are we so concerned with CEO compensation and violating these peoples constitutional rights? Isn't a bail out violating the constitution? Are we one step closer to socialism?

Where is the accountability of these Wall Street firms? Why do I have to help them? Do they write me a check when I am short on my rent or my car breaks down and I can't afford to fix it?

I was undecided on this election until now. McCain has my vote that’s for sure after all this. Bully to him and those young Republicans in Congress. Do not let the Democrats do this to the hard working American people. Come up with a better plan that will reflect the interests of people like myself and my husband and still help the country get out of this mess.

Sincerely,

An Angry American who used to be a Democrat



Amen sister...Im with you on this one...and I am voting for McCain too. I do think he is going to change things. Although he is a republican, same as Bush, I don't think he has the same approach. Hopefully we won't suffer for much longer. We're in the same situation, no house yet, Fh's parents are actually looking into buying something for an investment because none of us in my family were stupid with the whole credit thing when everyone else was. I think I need to write a similar letter...
GinaZ Posted:

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I agree with almost everything. I am not sure if this will be fixed better by Obama or McCain though- I still am waiting for the debates and need to do more reading up on it. I thought the letter made a lot of valued points though.

Opera_Ghost Posted:

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Posted by GinaZ

I agree with almost everything. I am not sure if this will be fixed better by Obama or McCain though- I still am waiting for the debates and need to do more reading up on it. I thought the letter made a lot of valued points though.



Same here. I am waiting for the debates to start. I really don't care for either candidate. And I'm not registered to any party, but I tend to vote Democrat

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