Spinoff of American Beheaded for Abuse Revenge: Are you shocked???

I know what those few Americans did was wrong. Im not saying it was right. I'll just say I have mixed feeling about it.

But to annouce it and shove pictures all over America it was BOUND to get a response. Im not surprised at all. I feel like those who were so fast to gain Buck$$ on 'showing the truth' to america (aka the Media) is to blame.

I KNOW im gonna say this wrong but... I'll try. Showing Americans that other Americans are evil and bringing constant public Media attention to the reprimands of the government and other officials who probably have no direct immediate control over those soldiers does nothing for the Country's moral and only fuels the anger of those who hate us already.

Im not saying hide the truth, just be responsible with it and understand that clogging our minds with this 'American Abuse' crap is gonna have consquences!

*hops of soap box*

It sux they beheaded an American in retailation. I feel especially bad for those over there who are probably thinking 'Crap now they think we are all killers'.

Stereotypes breeding Stereotypes. *sigh*

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Posted by Sasha96

there seems like too many places I can point my finger. i voted 'other'.

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I agree but the majority of the blame IMO goes to our society and our morals. Our society is soooo hungry for money that we will do absolutely anything to get it. This is why the media does what it does....MONEY!

I gotta blame the media.. and I'm part of the media. I never would have shown this. It's just asking for us to get attacked again.

And I am sure that there are lots of people in Iraq that are happy to see Saddam go.. and aren't too p.o. ed that we are there.. but I'm sure they won't ask us to stay any longer than we have to. They want us to go as well.. and that's cool.. what American wants to be there?

But you'll never see those Iraqi people..

You never see good news on the news.

All you'll see are things that divide us.

I blame chicken sh*t Al Queda or however they spell it. They're just a giant bunch of p*ssies with the whole shrouds act. If you're so bad @ss, that you cut someone's head off on video, TAKE OFF YOUR MASK.

The funny thing is a year ago Bin Laden HATED Saddam and Iraq. Now they back their empty rhetoric with 'this is for Iraq!!!!!!!!'. I didn't think what the soldiers did was right, but now I just don't care. In fact, let's just kill them all...and release the videos.

One last thing. The media is not blameless. They show what sells. Shock, terror, sadness, hardships sell. Watch Bowling for Columbine and you'll see what I mean.

I say take no hostages, and do what we have to do to destroy them! The gloves are off! Time to destroy them!

I had the displeasure of actually seeing the video, well the few seconds I could bare to watch. My hate for that place, and their people grew a whole lot.

I seriously thought I was going to throw up for a good 10 minutes, and I only watched a few seconds. I don't know how, AS A HUMAN BEING, you could do that. I might kill someone who hurt or killed a family member, but I could never bring myself to that level.

I have to chime in here. I watch the news all the time, and yes, sad news upsets me, but this beheading made me literally sick. I was hysterical in front of the TV last night. I didn't see the video, but the news anchor described it in graphic detail, and it really got to me. I don't see how you can blame the media for this. The media didn't decapitate the guy - al Quaeda did. And I agree, if they are so badass, then they should show their faces.

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Posted by OSCARtheGROOM

I say take no hostages, and do what we have to do to destroy them! The gloves are off! Time to destroy them!

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Deep inside I agree with you. But the media know it's election year. They want Bush to seem blood hungry and stupid. One he does on his own, the other they orchestrate themselves.

If we look like blood hungry ticked off revenge-seeking righteous then the Media tosses it back in our face and says 'what make us different from them' that then throws everyone into guilt and hating the government.

To me, this is all a very well laid plan by the Media to destroy Bush (when I think he can do that all on his own, thank you) and an unfortunate 'side effect' is that it is destroying the moral of the American people, our 'resolution' to do what has to be done and worse... this media crap is causing OUR AMERICAN SOLDIERS to be in DANGER!

For that there is no excuse.

But isn't torturing people doing the exact thing that we are over there to prevent?
Sadaam was a terrible man who used torture to gain and keep power. His people lived in fear. Arent' we no better than them if we are out there torturing people as well? If it's not right for them to doit, then it's not right for us to do it either.....how are the people in those countries ever going to trust us and let us help them if we show ourselves to be just as brutal as the people who have ruled them and kept them captive for all of these years.
I agree that the media is using this to their advantage....but they can't show the pictures of torture if they don't exist. And you can't take pictures of torture if it never happens.
Aren't we over there to help these countries out and make them more civilized....like we say America is? It just seems hypocritical to me....

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Posted by OctGroom

I gotta blame the media.. and I'm part of the media. I never would have shown this. It's just asking for us to get attacked again.

And I am sure that there are lots of people in Iraq that are happy to see Saddam go.. and aren't too p.o. ed that we are there.. but I'm sure they won't ask us to stay any longer than we have to. They want us to go as well.. and that's cool.. what American wants to be there?

But you'll never see those Iraqi people..

You never see good news on the news.

All you'll see are things that divide us.

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Well said. I also blame Al Qaida and agree that if these men believe in their cause so much show your face!!!

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Posted by palebride

But isn't torturing people doing the exact thing that we are over there to prevent?

Sadaam was a terrible man who used torture to gain and keep power. His people lived in fear. Arent' we no better than them if we are out there torturing people as well? If it's not right for them to doit, then it's not right for us to do it either.....

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But wasn't that a GOVERNMENT sanctioned event that no one in his country could prevent? Isnt that what we're trying to change?

In America if that happens our media and ACLU jump all over it. It's not a perfect solution (as the media now shows us) but then again I find it hard to be really upset when a child rapist in a US prison is beat up. I do however feel that Saddam was torturing basically innocent people who's only crime was to want to be free. To me.. there *IS* a very very big difference.

JMHO

I would love to blame them. They have extremist views and have no value for human life, even thier own (hence the suicide bombers). I know Jews from Iraq who were tortured in the 50's and left. FH's grandparents are Jews from Iraq and moved to Israel in teh 50's to avoid progroms and violence, in addition to a series of laws that took away Jew's property rights. They are barbaric- My friend's 20 year old brother was kidnapped, and missing for 7 months by Hammas. His body was found- and in a very gruesome way. The killer was found and his mother was PROUD of what her son did and hoped that more followd his foot steps.


However, since this is something that has been seen around the globe, from Europe, to Africa to Australia to our own USA (I'm not just referrign to what photos we are seeing- what about what we don't see), the only one to blame is human nature.

I have not watched the video of the beheading and have avoided some of the pics because it is so disgusting. I may upset some people by saying this (politics can always get a little messy) but I really blame our president for all events taking place overseas. I see it as a horrible chain reaction.

I do agree 100% that Saddam was a monster and needed to be taken out. But I wonder if right after Sept 11 we would have gone to war with Al-Queda would this have happened. Would any of this happened?

Instead we went to Iraq cause we were told they were an immediate threat. Well what about the people that attacked us on our own soil? When will they face retribution?

I feel lied to and kind of lost and like there is nothing I can do. The only thing I can think to do is vote in Nov and hopefully this man who runs our country and who only seems to be out for his own personal and financial gain will be voted out (then again he was never voted for in the first place). Then maybe our troops can come home.

Anyway sorry so long, hope I didn't upset anyone these are just my opinions!!

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Posted by Xelindrya

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Posted by OSCARtheGROOM

I say take no hostages, and do what we have to do to destroy them! The gloves are off! Time to destroy them!

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Deep inside I agree with you. But the media know it's election year. They want Bush to seem blood hungry and stupid. One he does on his own, the other they orchestrate themselves.



If we look like blood hungry ticked off revenge-seeking righteous then the Media tosses it back in our face and says 'what make us different from them' that then throws everyone into guilt and hating the government.

To me, this is all a very well laid plan by the Media to destroy Bush (when I think he can do that all on his own, thank you) and an unfortunate 'side effect' is that it is destroying the moral of the American people, our 'resolution' to do what has to be done and worse... this media crap is causing OUR AMERICAN SOLDIERS to be in DANGER!

For that there is no excuse.

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I don't thinkt he media wants to make Bush seem blood hungry. The majority of the media in this country is Murdoch who is an adamant Bush supporter. If anything, the media has been even more conservative lately. Media outlets are on record saying they are self censuring themselves so as not to incur the wrath of the FCC and their fines a la the Howard Stern situation.

I think as American people we have every right to know what our soliders are doing over there. After all, we 'elected' the man in office who put our troops in Iraq.

I fault the administration. They have lied to us so many times about the situation in Iraq- heads have got to roll now. For the past 2 months top officials have known about the abuse in those prisons and have done NOTHING about it. It took the media to blow the whistle on the government- which is their job... to be independent of the government.

It isn't the job of the media to be the agent of the government... that's what we would have in a facist society- a la nazi germany.. is that what you all REALLY want? A news media that ONLY tows the party line? I dont' think so. This is a free society- and there are actually going to be PRICES for that freedom. If you dont' want to pay the price, move to Cuba or China and see how you like it there.

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Posted by kgermano

I do agree 100% that Saddam was a monster and needed to be taken out. But I wonder if right after Sept 11 we would have gone to war with Al-Queda would this have happened. Would any of this happened?

Instead we went to Iraq cause we were told they were an immediate threat. Well what about the people that attacked us on our own soil? When will they face retribution?

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We did go to Afghanistan right after 9/11 and took out the Taliban.

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I think as American people we have every right to know what our soliders are doing over there.

It isn't the job of the media to be the agent of the government... that's what we would have in a facist society- a la nazi germany.. is that what you all REALLY want? A news media that ONLY tows the party line? I dont' think so. This is a free society- and there are actually going to be PRICES for that freedom. If you dont' want to pay the price, move to Cuba or China and see how you like it there.

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I agree that it is not the media's fault. The media didn't torture Iraqi prisoners or behead an American. Al Quaeda doesn't need a reason to kill an American. Calling it 'retribution' is bs. They would have done it anyway. JMO