Is it hard to get a teaching job at a catholic school without being certified? I know of 2 people who got teaching jobs in public schools with no certification or student teaching. They are currently enrolled in a masters education program. How is this done?
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Right now, with the economy the way it is getting a teaching job is nearly impossible.
So ALL schools (including Catholic schools) will have more applicants to open positions. These schools will always take certfied teachers over non-certified. I have special ed. certification and the catholic schools didnt even hire me.
TO work in a LI public school you need to be certified. Schools may make exceptions if your certification is pending.
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Thanks for the info. I wonder if it's different in the outer boroughs. Do you happen to know if there's a freeze right now in the public schools and when that should be up?
munkin521
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The city has a freeze which prob will not be lifted until next year. They are expecting a lot of babyboomers to retire BUT that does not mean that the freeze will left either. They have to make sure they give open positions to those that were excessed and are getting paid to sit pretty in the 'green room' they call it lol. I am a duel certified general ed/special ed b-6 teacher with a masters in special ed and i am jobless as well after 5 years of searching for a perm position. I wish you luck and if you hear of anything at all coming up FM me I will do the same for you!!!
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One of my college roommates is a teacher. She works in Glen Cove and has a great set up (teaching 5th graders and she earns 55K/yr). I've heard (don't quote me) that there is a hierarchy in hiring new teachers w/in NY state. Its religious schools first, then public NYC schools, then Long Island/Westchester/suburbs next. The 'mecca' of teaching (K - 12th grade) is really in Nassau County, I know teachers pulling in 130K with 15 yrs of experience and tenure under their belt (esp in Roslyn, Port Washington, Glen Cove, Oyster Bay areas).
I've also heard from other teachers that Catholic schools pay the lowest salaries to teachers. My 8th grade Catholic school teacher is now pulling in $115K teaching 11th grade History in Long Island. She's been teaching since 1986 I believe.
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I currently work in a Catholic School on LI. I am pretty positive that you need to have some type of certification. You can call the Diocese to be sure. However, even in the Diocese of Rockville Centre, the jobs are few and far between. Parents can't afford the tuition and enrollment in many schools are dropping. We were also put on a salary freeze this year. Also, yes working in a Catholic School you get paid peanuts, but I love where I work and wouldnt trade it for the world.
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Posted by FutureMrsLMS
One of my college roommates is a teacher. She works in Glen Cove and has a great set up (teaching 5th graders and she earns 55K/yr). I've heard (don't quote me) that there is a hierarchy in hiring new teachers w/in NY state. Its religious schools first, then public NYC schools, then Long Island/Westchester/suburbs next. The 'mecca' of teaching (K - 12th grade) is really in Nassau County, I know teachers pulling in 130K with 15 yrs of experience and tenure under their belt (esp in Roslyn, Port Washington, Glen Cove, Oyster Bay areas).
I've also heard from other teachers that Catholic schools pay the lowest salaries to teachers. My 8th grade Catholic school teacher is now pulling in $115K teaching 11th grade History in Long Island. She's been teaching since 1986 I believe.
I know for sure that the salaries at Catholic schools are much lower than the public schools. What you make really depends on you as well. The more credits that you get above your masters the higher you will be on the pay scale. Depends on the district but some let you go masters + 75 or 90. It really makes a difference in pay. I wouldn't go into teaching though for the money. You have to really have a passion for it or you will burn out fast. There are too many people out there who think that teachers have it made and they have no idea. Have you started taking courses? Maybe you can even think of going in as a student observer to see if its for you. Let me know if you have any questions.
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You can try the open market I believe in April or May?... but from what I was told, there are still a ton of excessed teachers, and they will get a better position than new or soon to be teachers... at least thats what I was told...
My friend who graduated last year is still looking for a job, and she said that even finding a sub position is hard bc supposedly, a school has to nominate you in order for you to sub? I dunno, I never heard of that until now... maybe things have changed in the past few years..
I was excessed twice in two years and then got rehired in the same school in sept bc many principals do not know what the budget looks like until after June, close to August/September..
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With Catholic schools, I heard the same thing, they are the lowest in terms of salary... My cousin teaches at a public school and I believe makes a couple thousand less than me and she started a year before me..
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My friend has been working at a Catholic school for the last few years and she is not certified. I guess that's how they can get away with paying their teachers so little??
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Posted by SummerBride10
Right now, with the economy the way it is getting a teaching job is nearly impossible.
So ALL schools (including Catholic schools) will have more applicants to open positions. These schools will always take certfied teachers over non-certified. I have special ed. certification and the catholic schools didnt even hire me.
TO work in a LI public school you need to be certified. Schools may make exceptions if your certification is pending.
ITA...It is rough out there...I have only had leave replacements for the past two years. It stinks when you can't get the job that you love to do.
Iluvpoodles
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Posted by FutureMrsLMS
One of my college roommates is a teacher. She works in Glen Cove and has a great set up (teaching 5th graders and she earns 55K/yr). I've heard (don't quote me) that there is a hierarchy in hiring new teachers w/in NY state. Its religious schools first, then public NYC schools, then Long Island/Westchester/suburbs next. The 'mecca' of teaching (K - 12th grade) is really in Nassau County, I know teachers pulling in 130K with 15 yrs of experience and tenure under their belt (esp in Roslyn, Port Washington, Glen Cove, Oyster Bay areas).
I've also heard from other teachers that Catholic schools pay the lowest salaries to teachers. My 8th grade Catholic school teacher is now pulling in $115K teaching 11th grade History in Long Island. She's been teaching since 1986 I believe.
I know for sure that the salaries at Catholic schools are much lower than the public schools. What you make really depends on you as well. The more credits that you get above your masters the higher you will be on the pay scale. Depends on the district but some let you go masters + 75 or 90. It really makes a difference in pay. I wouldn't go into teaching though for the money. You have to really have a passion for it or you will burn out fast. There are too many people out there who think that teachers have it made and they have no idea. Have you started taking courses? Maybe you can even think of going in as a student observer to see if its for you. Let me know if you have any questions.
I will be certified in about a year. The pay difference in a Catholic and public school isn't a big deal to me. I actually worked in a catholic school, not as a teacher, many years ago. I got along great with the principal, we lost touch but I loved the school and would love to work there. I'm going to call her up and let her know when I should be finished, etc. Hopefully, if something did come up within the next few years, she would give me a shot at it before a random, person. At least I hope.
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I worked in NYC for a few years, and have had two tenure track positions on Long Island. i was excessed from the first one. It is difficult to get a job on Long Island, but not impossible. OLASjobs.org is a good place to start looking. Some districts in Nassau county have their own websites for online applications as well (Great Neck, Manhasset, Bellmore, Syosset only accepts paper resumes, etc.). On Long Island, having been part of the hiring process, generally speaking, if you're not certified, and you have no connection to the school, your resume will be weeded out of the candidacy pile. Also, not in my case, but in many, sometimes it's who you know...Good Luck. Try leave replacements! It's a good foot in the door and helps people get to know you!