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Vendor Rant.... (long sorry) PICS ADDED!

Original post by soontobecruz

As many of you know, I do not often complain about vendors. In fact I would recommend and praise almost all of my vendors however I had a problem with my florist and after 3 weeks of trying to rectify the situation and I've gotten NO RESPONSE from them! I feel it is only right I pass on what happend to me as to make sure another bride doesn't have the same problem.

Back in 2009 I booked with Rich from Flower Michele. I absolutely adored him. My mother and I felt the most comfortable with him and I can assure you they were not the cheapest or the most expensive but we felt he 'got it'. I knew I wanted a monochromatic look to my CP's so they had to be SPOT ON or they would look out of place. After seeing about 4 different florists I booked with FM.

After Rich left I met with John to go over things. He lied to me about where Rich went and his reasoning for leaving but that's a whole other issue. I didn't feel as confident in them. However, I had no basis for cancelling my contract. Although something inside told me I should. We went over everything and it seemed alright.... just alright. Then 2 months before my wedding I had my CP sample. Let me tell you it was WRONG..... dead wrong in color. It was a maroon color when I asked for HOT PINK. We played with it a little while there and I was still concerned. What I did like is that John had these new LED bases that he had the sample on so it GLOWED! That was my favorite part. The crystals he strung on the sample were a mess and dirty looking so I quickly took those off. Overall, he said after the fact he 'got it' and we were good to go. This wasn't sitting well with me so a week later my father called him and asked that we see another sample. I told him it didn't have to be to scale to save him money I was just mostly concerned with color. We set an appointment for about 2 weeks later and we were all set. The week of that appointment I called John to confirm and he told me he couldn't get the pink carnations... he could only get white and he would dye/spray them. I told him no I wanted to see the real thing, exactly what I would see when I walked into my RH. He said fine and give him another week. (this would be about 3 weeks before my wedding now)

My mother MADE these gorgeous crystal strands to hang from them and when we went back the color was correct, the strands looked beautiful the LED base made them all shine. I was THRILLED! They were exactly what I asked for.

Now, the day of the wedding.. when my personals were dropped off I was IMMEDIATELY disappointed. My bouquet seemed much smaller than John had promised, it was all pink roses I wanted something full and this was not. The delivery guy said it was because he used larger roses. BS it was small for a bridal bouquet. My BM's bo'ks were ever smaller. The roses weren't open and they looked like the size of a flower girls bo'k. I was very upset. AND they forgot my petals for my petal cones which my BM's were going to fill up. The delivery guy said he would bring them to the church for the girls to fll there. My mom said no you can take the cones fill them and drop them off. We have enough to do once we get to the church. They did that.. fine... Still my bo'k huge dissapointment. He told me I would have upwards of 30 roses I had about 18 :sad:

Then when I get to JT and everything has been wonderful... I go see my room and there they are my CP's... let me tell you the matre'd was able to see the look of digust on my face. The color was correct but the orchid in the center vase was about 6 inches tall when my sample was the full length of it. The vases weren't even filled completely with water so the inside filled with condensation and they looked dirty... the size was somewhere in between the 1st and 2nd sample I saw. John had promised me somethingon the sweetheart table. An arrangement bc we had one less table than we thought, and allI got was a few small vases with submerged flowers. OH the tree in my CH which he promised would have white orchids and crystals everywhere.. was plain other than the white hydrangea base and the hanging candles we supplied... It was a nightmare... OH and there were NO LED BASES UNDER THE CP'S!!! The thing JOhn sold me on most was those bases and they didn't even bring/use them....

Thankfully Jose (my Matrie'd) asked what he could do to fix it. I said the vases should be filled. He IMMEDIATELY had the staff at JT drop what they were doing get buckets of water and began filling my vases so they would atleast look clean. There was nothing he could do about the short orchids but the water was atleast something.

While I was on my HM my mom tried to contact John many times... he finally reached her once after I had returned and he said he was going to check my contract and see what went wrong. That was over 3 weeks ago. I called him myself this past Wednesday and I have still yet to get a call returned. He is terrible at communication which is what made me nervous about him from day one. I really wish I had gone with my gut and switched florists when Rich left.

I also realize these are all things only myself and my parents would know. My guests all said they were beautiful however they are not what I paid for and what I expected. It is actually sad for me to write this rant since I feel my day was so wonderful yet I wanted everyone to know what happend so as I said it doesn't happen to them.

Sorry this was so long and I am going to try and find pics to add to this now so you can have a better idea of what I am saying....


ETA:PIcs

pic 1 1st sample... um no where near hot pink.. don't mind the white hydrangea and 1 silver branch we were playing around with things. However please notice the TALL ORCHID in the center. These were taken with a camera phone so I couldn't get the whole thing. Including the LED base



2nd pic... second sample color is correct, my moms hand strung crystals and all silver branches... again notice the height of the orchid


day of... as you can see the orchid FLOATING to the top... the size is much much smaller than the original sample (which we were told we were getting) and clearly no LED base


while I'm at it... the teeny tiny BM Bo'ks
TheFutureMrs2011 Posted:

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2011er crashing..

My cousin used Flower Michele in 2006.. and she had an awful experience with them... I think they were in the process of moving their office at the time (which was their excuse) and they basically replaced the flowers she was supposed to have in her centerpieces with whatever they had laying around! My family was furious and got money back because they walked into Giorgios to find completely different centerpieces so I am not surprised by this at all! Shame on vendors, taking soooo much money from people for one day then not even doing the job right. They are a preferred vendor at my hall and I opted to not even meet with them because of what happened to my cousin.

So sorry this happened to you but I hope your wedding was still fabulous
Windy Posted:

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Sorry the flowers were messed up.
soontobecruz Posted:

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Posted by Jen-Fred

I have to say that i visited like 5 florists, Flower Michele is the only one who really 'got it'. I have every confidence that they will make my wedding ROCK! and in addition, I think your flowers were beautiful (the floating orchid, not so much and yes bok should be larger) but everything else looked great. I think this is why you need to see your bok the day before your wedding to approve.

Floral decor is an art, not a science so you fall subject to how the person designs it. I think most florists are the same and what separates them is their attitude, how flexible they will be with you, their responsiveness and their ability to listen to you.

I am so sorry you had that experience but I have had the total opposite experience with them so far. Perhaps John was on vacation and just needed some time to get back to you. I am sure you will hear from him. Good Luck.



I wish you luck using them. However I should lwt you know. I had sen bok's at their office. We discussed size. We compared various sizes so John knew what I wanted and expected. When they were delivered to my house I was shocked at how small they all were considering it was something we went over

I agree my flowers were pretty. Yet not what I wanted and paid for. That is the issue, not them being ugly.

I also see what your saying that John could have been away but I dropped things off to HIM 2 days before my wedding so he was certainly there. If he was on vacation after my wedding causing him to be delayed in calling me back fine but it is now nearly a month since my wedding so I think he's had ample time to return my calls.

He told my mother 3 weeks ago he was going to review our contract and get back to me. He hasn't which doesn't surprise me because his communication skills are terrible.

Good luck with them I hope you don't encounter the same issues.
KMarie123 Posted:

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Posted by Jen-Fred

I have to say that i visited like 5 florists, Flower Michele is the only one who really 'got it'. I have every confidence that they will make my wedding ROCK! and in addition, I think your flowers were beautiful (the floating orchid, not so much and yes bok should be larger) but everything else looked great. I think this is why you need to see your bok the day before your wedding to approve.

Floral decor is an art, not a science so you fall subject to how the person designs it. I think most florists are the same and what separates them is their attitude, how flexible they will be with you, their responsiveness and their ability to listen to you.

I am so sorry you had that experience but I have had the total opposite experience with them so far. Perhaps John was on vacation and just needed some time to get back to you. I am sure you will hear from him. Good Luck.



ITA. I must say, I've never posted before but all the negativity on this post just got to me. Flowers mean the world to my family & I and we have much confidence that FM will deliver all that we've asked. I'm sorry the overall result was not up to your expectations and I would be upset as well, but I hope this does not discourage other brides from booking with John. I've had a fantastic experience so far. In addition, my friends who recommended FM have proven that they absolutely have the potential to go beyond the bride & groom's expectations. I wish you the best of luck & I hope that all will be resolved. I just wish that so many individuals did not hurt their name here.
soontobecruz Posted:

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Posted by KMarie123


Posted by Jen-Fred

I have to say that i visited like 5 florists, Flower Michele is the only one who really 'got it'. I have every confidence that they will make my wedding ROCK! and in addition, I think your flowers were beautiful (the floating orchid, not so much and yes bok should be larger) but everything else looked great. I think this is why you need to see your bok the day before your wedding to approve.

Floral decor is an art, not a science so you fall subject to how the person designs it. I think most florists are the same and what separates them is their attitude, how flexible they will be with you, their responsiveness and their ability to listen to you.

I am so sorry you had that experience but I have had the total opposite experience with them so far. Perhaps John was on vacation and just needed some time to get back to you. I am sure you will hear from him. Good Luck.



ITA. I must say, I've never posted before but all the negativity on this post just got to me. Flowers mean the world to my family & I and we have much confidence that FM will deliver all that we've asked. I'm sorry the overall result was not up to your expectations and I would be upset as well, but I hope this does not discourage other brides from booking with John. I've had a fantastic experience so far. In addition, my friends who recommended FM have proven that they absolutely have the potential to go beyond the bride & groom's expectations. I wish you the best of luck & I hope that all will be resolved. I just wish that so many individuals did not hurt their name here.



I am glad you feel confident in them. I must say though that their WORK is what has hurt their name. I can only speak for myself but I wrote nothing but the absolute truth and even corrected others who misinterpreted what I was saying as to not create the rumor mill or more drama.

I would also like to add that I find it interesting that you chose this thread as your first post. The same day I FINALLY got a response by text from John.

I plan to update this thread tomorrow regarding the text I received earlier today.
KMarie123 Posted:

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Posted by soontobecruz


Posted by KMarie123


Posted by Jen-Fred

I have to say that i visited like 5 florists, Flower Michele is the only one who really 'got it'. I have every confidence that they will make my wedding ROCK! and in addition, I think your flowers were beautiful (the floating orchid, not so much and yes bok should be larger) but everything else looked great. I think this is why you need to see your bok the day before your wedding to approve.

Floral decor is an art, not a science so you fall subject to how the person designs it. I think most florists are the same and what separates them is their attitude, how flexible they will be with you, their responsiveness and their ability to listen to you.

I am so sorry you had that experience but I have had the total opposite experience with them so far. Perhaps John was on vacation and just needed some time to get back to you. I am sure you will hear from him. Good Luck.



ITA. I must say, I've never posted before but all the negativity on this post just got to me. Flowers mean the world to my family & I and we have much confidence that FM will deliver all that we've asked. I'm sorry the overall result was not up to your expectations and I would be upset as well, but I hope this does not discourage other brides from booking with John. I've had a fantastic experience so far. In addition, my friends who recommended FM have proven that they absolutely have the potential to go beyond the bride & groom's expectations. I wish you the best of luck & I hope that all will be resolved. I just wish that so many individuals did not hurt their name here.



I am glad you feel confident in them. I must say though that their WORK is what has hurt their name. I can only speak for myself but I wrote nothing but the absolute truth and even corrected others who misinterpreted what I was saying as to not create the rumor mill or more drama.

I would also like to add that I find it interesting that you chose this thread as your first post. The same day I FINALLY got a response by text from John.

I plan to update this thread tomorrow regarding the text I received earlier today.



Sent you FM to chat further :) Hope you trust me!
rengor Posted:

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I FM'ed you and I'm sorry you had to deal with this on your day!

I wanted everyone else to see this too .. I had a very similar problem with Flower Michele. I can't even begin to talk about all of the things they messed up the day of my wedding. From the ceremony not being completely finished, to my centerpieces having about half the amount of flowers than agreed upon and them looking far from the beautiful sample that John created for me. They completely forgot my dais piece all together. I was supposed to have a large centerpiece on my card table which came at about less than 1/2 of the size that was promised and didn't have all the flowers we walked about either. I can go on and on but you guys prob get the point by now.

John has been exteremly difficult to get ahold of. He hardly answers his phone or returns messages. After e-mailing with him a few times back and forth, he has yet to respond to my e-mail from nearly 2 weeks ago.

His excuse to me for the day of was that he was sick and that is why he was not personally there to make sure things were done correctly. I have to say that he did sound sincerely sorry but that doesn't change the fact that he has done nothing to resolve this issue.

I am sure they have done wonderful work before and the sample centerpiece John made me was perfect, but they really did not deliver what was promised on my day. It is the only negative thing I can think of about my wedding and that really makes me want to !

Thanks for listening, I hope this helps you girls out!
RitasEngaged Posted:

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shauna the same thing happend to me with FM

my sample cp were to die for my wedding ones not too much - especially my high

and the boks were not good - mine didnt even last to the church
irisheyes23 Posted:

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Sorry that this happened to you Shauna. The BM's bouquets were definitely small. I would've been angry too!

Nina1010 Posted:

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I am so sorry they did this. I hope someone has the decency to respond to you. This is just wrong.
Jen-Fred Posted:

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I am so shocked to keep hearing these bad things about FM. If it were all true though, real complaints, how could they still be in business?

Again, I have become obsessed with John and Alex and truly I KNOW they will do the right thing by me. I was in love with these crystal candelabras that no florist had, John ordered them for me. I will be the first to use them. How amazing and accommodating is that? No other florist was willing to do that!

I feel really bad that so many people are jumping on the post and saying such awful things about them. After my wedding I will absolutely post a review and will also post pictures of everything. I am positive that they are going to do a great job! No doubts!

You cant please all of the people all of the time, and I would NOT count FM out of the equation if I were still looking for a florist and I am sooo picky!

soontobecruz Posted:

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Posted by Jen-Fred

I am so shocked to keep hearing these bad things about FM. If it were all true though, real complaints, how could they still be in business?

Again, I have become obsessed with John and Alex and truly I KNOW they will do the right thing by me. I was in love with these crystal candelabras that no florist had, John ordered them for me. I will be the first to use them. How amazing and accommodating is that? No other florist was willing to do that!

I feel really bad that so many people are jumping on the post and saying such awful things about them. After my wedding I will absolutely post a review and will also post pictures of everything. I am positive that they are going to do a great job! No doubts!

You cant please all of the people all of the time, and I would NOT count FM out of the equation if I were still looking for a florist and I am sooo picky!




Are you saying we are all lying? Why would we do that? Don't you think each and every one of us would love to say that everything went absolutely perfect on our wedding day and want to recommend each of our vendors to future brides.

You can back them up as much as you'd like but the pictured DON'T LIE! and if you hear something once, we can always say there are 2 sides to each story, however as you can see MANY brides are saying they had similar situations. I can tell you I have a mailbox full of other brides backing me up and giving me credit for posting this on the boards because they were afraid to step up and say something. Some have chosen to reply to this thread with their own experiences others have not and that is their perogative.

You wonder how they are still in business... believe me... SO DO I! I hope you do have a good experience with them. I am telling you MY experience though. John makes promises he doesn't keep. It's sad but true.

Believe me it's a very sad feeling after your wedding when you regret making a decision to use a vendor.When you look at others brides pictures of beautiful flowers and go to weddings after yours and drool over other brides bo'ks. Believe me it isn't easy and there is nothing you can do about it. I wouldn't wish that feeling on any bride.

It is what it is though, you can trust them and defend John, Alex (who I believe was also the delivery guy and lied to me abou the size of my bo'ks and how many roses were used) and anyone else, but the fact of the matter is they let me down on my day and from the sound of it they let alot of other brides down as well. Take what you wish from this thread but DO NOT assume we aren't telling the truth.

soontobecruz Posted:

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Posted by RitasEngaged

shauna the same thing happend to me with FM

my sample cp were to die for my wedding ones not too much - especially my high

and the boks were not good - mine didnt even last to the church



Thank you Rita, I'm sorry you had a similar experience.

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