glad to see Dh and I are not alone. I really had to try and focus last night - I was so bored!
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I was the same way on Sunday, Trying to stay awake.
Some sent this to me to explain the symbolism behind it.
Tony is in purgatory.
He was literally in the 'Hotel California' He was without an identity and unable to leave. The hotel he can check into was the 'Omni'…meaning ALL. While he is stuck in that hotel, on one end of town is a shining beacon (Heaven), on the other, a raging forest fire (Hell).
Now let's dig WAAAY deeper into symbolism: He is also apparently in the military contractor business, so it can be argued that he's still involved with death and murder. Also, he is still capable of cheating on his wife. I think the writers are showing the point that in the end, sin is sin, and once you get to the end it doesn't matter if you make your decisions in a boardroom or the back of a stripclub. I guess it's some social commentary.
In Dante Inferno, it is said there are 7 layers or circles of Hell that Dante traveled through to get to paradise.
Tony was placed on the 7th floor(or circle)… the circle for those who are violent
He's sinking further and further into the depths. Trying to get back by taking the stairs and leaving the 7th floor (circle, soul)
He fell down the stairs between the 5th and 4th floor. The 5th circle is wrath and 4th is greed
Also, if you recall the first episode opened with William Burroughs spoken word recording 'Seven Souls' From the Seven Souls…Number five is Ka, the Double, most closely associated with the subject.
The 1st circle is limbo and from there he can escape, when he stop acepting his fate and fights back and finds his breifcase.
His double who took his breifcase, or as Tony out it 'My whole LIFE is in there' That guy's name was Kevin Finnerty, to which the man at the bar jokes 'Kev-Infinity'
By the way Kevin Finnerty is a heating salesman from the hottest state, Arizona. No need to go further there. Arizona is also on the Driver's License as AZ or a-z, the beginning to the end.
Dante's divine comedy is divided into three parts, corresponding with Dante's three journeys: Inferno, or 'Hell'; Purgatorio, or 'Purgatory'; and Paradiso, or 'Paradise.'
Consider that Tony is now in the second of the three journeys — his life on earth has been Dante's hell and all it is comprised of (the seven circles of hell: Circle One, Those in limbo; Circle Two - The lustful; Circle Three, The gluttonous; Circle Four - The hoarders; Circle Five - The wrathful; Circle Six - The heretics Circle Seven - The violent), he is now in purgatory, and is making his final journey to Paradiso.
On Easter Sunday, Dante emerges from Hell. Through his travels, he has found his way to God and is able, once more, to look upon the stars. Perhaps this is Tony's path.
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Posted by roxyspark
I was the same way on Sunday, Trying to stay awake.
Some sent this to me to explain the symbolism behind it.
Tony is in purgatory.
He was literally in the 'Hotel California' He was without an identity and unable to leave. The hotel he can check into was the 'Omni'…meaning ALL. While he is stuck in that hotel, on one end of town is a shining beacon (Heaven), on the other, a raging forest fire (Hell).
Now let's dig WAAAY deeper into symbolism: He is also apparently in the military contractor business, so it can be argued that he's still involved with death and murder. Also, he is still capable of cheating on his wife. I think the writers are showing the point that in the end, sin is sin, and once you get to the end it doesn't matter if you make your decisions in a boardroom or the back of a stripclub. I guess it's some social commentary.
In Dante Inferno, it is said there are 7 layers or circles of Hell that Dante traveled through to get to paradise.
Tony was placed on the 7th floor(or circle)… the circle for those who are violent
He's sinking further and further into the depths. Trying to get back by taking the stairs and leaving the 7th floor (circle, soul)
He fell down the stairs between the 5th and 4th floor. The 5th circle is wrath and 4th is greed
Also, if you recall the first episode opened with William Burroughs spoken word recording 'Seven Souls' From the Seven Souls…Number five is Ka, the Double, most closely associated with the subject.
The 1st circle is limbo and from there he can escape, when he stop acepting his fate and fights back and finds his breifcase.
His double who took his breifcase, or as Tony out it 'My whole LIFE is in there' That guy's name was Kevin Finnerty, to which the man at the bar jokes 'Kev-Infinity'
By the way Kevin Finnerty is a heating salesman from the hottest state, Arizona. No need to go further there. Arizona is also on the Driver's License as AZ or a-z, the beginning to the end.
Dante's divine comedy is divided into three parts, corresponding with Dante's three journeys: Inferno, or 'Hell'; Purgatorio, or 'Purgatory'; and Paradiso, or 'Paradise.'
Consider that Tony is now in the second of the three journeys — his life on earth has been Dante's hell and all it is comprised of (the seven circles of hell: Circle One, Those in limbo; Circle Two - The lustful; Circle Three, The gluttonous; Circle Four - The hoarders; Circle Five - The wrathful; Circle Six - The heretics Circle Seven - The violent), he is now in purgatory, and is making his final journey to Paradiso.
On Easter Sunday, Dante emerges from Hell. Through his travels, he has found his way to God and is able, once more, to look upon the stars. Perhaps this is Tony's path.
While watching it I kinda got the symbolism (like at the hotel and can't leave and going to the house and you can go home - and seeing all the people who died), but Wow!
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I may be in the minority but I am loving this season!! DH is too. It's deep, thoughtful and the acting is amazing. Edie Falco is probably winning an Emmy! And I LOVE symbolism, numerology and 'hidden messages' I have not been able to gasp for air at times because I don't want to miss a thing. I'm loving it!!
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Posted by roxyspark
I was the same way on Sunday, Trying to stay awake.
Some sent this to me to explain the symbolism behind it.
Tony is in purgatory.
He was literally in the 'Hotel California' He was without an identity and unable to leave. The hotel he can check into was the 'Omni'…meaning ALL. While he is stuck in that hotel, on one end of town is a shining beacon (Heaven), on the other, a raging forest fire (Hell).
Now let's dig WAAAY deeper into symbolism: He is also apparently in the military contractor business, so it can be argued that he's still involved with death and murder. Also, he is still capable of cheating on his wife. I think the writers are showing the point that in the end, sin is sin, and once you get to the end it doesn't matter if you make your decisions in a boardroom or the back of a stripclub. I guess it's some social commentary.
In Dante Inferno, it is said there are 7 layers or circles of Hell that Dante traveled through to get to paradise.
Tony was placed on the 7th floor(or circle)… the circle for those who are violent
He's sinking further and further into the depths. Trying to get back by taking the stairs and leaving the 7th floor (circle, soul)
He fell down the stairs between the 5th and 4th floor. The 5th circle is wrath and 4th is greed
Also, if you recall the first episode opened with William Burroughs spoken word recording 'Seven Souls' From the Seven Souls…Number five is Ka, the Double, most closely associated with the subject.
The 1st circle is limbo and from there he can escape, when he stop acepting his fate and fights back and finds his breifcase.
His double who took his breifcase, or as Tony out it 'My whole LIFE is in there' That guy's name was Kevin Finnerty, to which the man at the bar jokes 'Kev-Infinity'
By the way Kevin Finnerty is a heating salesman from the hottest state, Arizona. No need to go further there. Arizona is also on the Driver's License as AZ or a-z, the beginning to the end.
Dante's divine comedy is divided into three parts, corresponding with Dante's three journeys: Inferno, or 'Hell'; Purgatorio, or 'Purgatory'; and Paradiso, or 'Paradise.'
Consider that Tony is now in the second of the three journeys — his life on earth has been Dante's hell and all it is comprised of (the seven circles of hell: Circle One, Those in limbo; Circle Two - The lustful; Circle Three, The gluttonous; Circle Four - The hoarders; Circle Five - The wrathful; Circle Six - The heretics Circle Seven - The violent), he is now in purgatory, and is making his final journey to Paradiso.
On Easter Sunday, Dante emerges from Hell. Through his travels, he has found his way to God and is able, once more, to look upon the stars. Perhaps this is Tony's path.
wow! that's very interesting! I got some of symbolism, but clearly not all of it.
VERY interesting!
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i am a little bored so far. It better step it up! After 2 years I want ACTION!!
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i thought this sunday's episode was better than the 1st 2.....
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Posted by SomethingBlu
I may be in the minority but I am loving this season!! DH is too. It's deep, thoughtful and the acting is amazing. Edie Falco is probably winning an Emmy! And I LOVE symbolism, numerology and 'hidden messages' I have not been able to gasp for air at times because I don't want to miss a thing. I'm loving it!!
I, too think Edie Falco is outstanding but as far as the symbolism? Yeah I get it but it doesn't hold me there. I am more touched by the accuracy of the mind of a person with Alzhheimers. I am held by Christopher's passion to write. I am fueled by the little man (Silvio) climbing up the 'corporate' ladder with dreams of hitting it big. Why do those things work for me? Because they parallel my life and the lives of people close to me.
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Posted by SomethingBlu
I may be in the minority but I am loving this season!! DH is too. It's deep, thoughtful and the acting is amazing. Edie Falco is probably winning an Emmy! And I LOVE symbolism, numerology and 'hidden messages' I have not been able to gasp for air at times because I don't want to miss a thing. I'm loving it!!
I totally agree!
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I just hope it gets better because if not.....I'm not gonna be happy....
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Guys just to confirm, there's been 3 episodes so far, or 2? I have to get from FIL on tape & we've seen 2 so far.
2 was FREAKY
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Sasha I completely agree.
Yeah its a little slower than normal...but dang it is soo deep and I love it! I think this season is gonna throw us for a loop......and I have a bad feeling Finn is gonna get whacked.
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Yeay, glad to see I'm not the only one!!! And I'm not a Sopranos fan at all...but again, this season is intense and I'm loving it...
Cindy - this Sunday will be episode 4.
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I think this episode will be a goody.
I was happy to see that Carmela was able to see Paulie and Vito's disappointed faces as they gave her the money and went into the elevator....THEY ARE GONNA GET IT!
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WOW. I love the symbolism.
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I think this episode will be a goody.
I was happy to see that Carmela was able to see Paulie and Vito's disappointed faces as they gave her the money and went into the elevator....THEY ARE GONNA GET IT!
I agree with that one!! Isn't a main figure supposed to get 'whacked'? (that's what my dad said).
I hope it's one of them. The wanna be gay mobster is acting a little weird for me, VERY pushy, wanting to take over.... he's stepping out of line IMO.
