WHy do Honest people get stepped on ???? VENT

This is silly, and just a vent, but nonetheless, I will vent
At the little daycare job I have, there are sometimes 'young girls' (about 18) that work with me. and the shifts are lets say 8-12 and 9-11, so that someone is there in the midpart of the morning when its most busy. Well TWICE these little SHMUCKS have 'cheated' me. and its not the dollar or 2 that will make me rich, its the DAMN PRINCIPLE. First of all when you are splitting tips or ANYTHING w someone, you should count it in front of them, in the open. I do.
Well the first time, I was going to count the tips because she was about to leave, and I decided 'Im new here, lets not step on any toes' so there she is counting it. she gives me a stash of singles, stuffs a stash into her bag and says 'BYE!!' and leaves.
So I let that one slide. She gave me an ODD NUMBER amount ($19 was a very busy day =)
so how was it split?? hmmm.

Then today, a mom put in a $5 bill, and it was before the next girl came in. I was the 8-12. Well I COULD HAVE just put that $5 in my bag and she would have never known. But I didnt. Its not in me to be dishonest. Well she came 15 minutes late, and only stayed for an hour (Stupid excuse about another job). She went to count the stips, put the five into her bag, and left me 3 singles. Come on now. I knew there was a $5 !
Little did she know I did VERY well after she left Got another $20 in the next hour. But its the **** principle.

So I ask you
-I will be workng w her next week. Do I say 'Did you take that $5 last week?' Do I bring it up at all?
-Do I tell the manager about this. I really work so little there and its more of a convenience for me to get out a little... Its not paying my mortgage or anything
I just think these little high school girls that come in after rolling out of bed (they literally dont even wash their face, PJ's and slippers)... they can use a good SMACK !
Of course I laughed this off last time. and Im sure I will laugh it off again.
But next week, I leave at 11, should I count the tips in front of her, or play her game, and stuff it in my bag and leave? Should I bring it up to the daycare mgr. Shes a sweetie and loves me..

thanks for listening.....

You dont want to stoop to her level. Its not worth it. I strongly believe what goes around comes around. Its a full circle.

Maybe talk to her privatly. Tell her how you feel, what you have noticed and because she is a nice person to you, you wanted to confront her personally on the matter rather then step on someone's toes.

Then just let her know you could have gone to the manager, but wanted to handle this yourself because you felt this matter could be resolved without anyone getting into trouble.

Maybe she'll appreciate your honesty to her.

I wouldn't bring it up to this girl directly.

I WOULD speak with your manager privately. Tell her your concerns and what you have witnessed.

I think a good solution would be to have the manager pool ALL the tips and then distribute them evenly at the end of the week. That way everyone is getting their fair share.

Do you think that would work out?

Just an idea.

Karen

I had a problem similar to this- I worked at a catering hall where we pooled tips. People used to brag that they pocketed them- it used to **** me off, like why are you bragging to me that you are robbing me? You probably should have said something when she was leaving with the five- now it is too late.

Next time I would ask her to count it in front of you.

Thanks for the feedback girls =)

This is the type of job where everyone works different shifts/days hours. I basically work one or 2 days, depending on when they call me in. So im not really a 'Regular' im more of a fill-in, but the manager I think really trusts me, because I came through for her like 4 times in the past month that i've been there, that she needed me and I was there within an hour, baby in tow and all.

Sure, I can let this slide, Sure I can bite my tongue. But what are we letting these little shmucks get away with?? and how much more will they do, thinking that they can run the show?? Sure its only a few bucks, but listen kid, im older and wiser, and this is not happening. I can understand if the manager takes more if she's working with someone or like how certain moms say (when i go cover) that they give the mgr (Who works every day, mornings). that they give her a 'something at the end of the week' so there i get screwed again, all these moms that give her something on fridays, say I cover on a wed, zilcho for me (I do get an hourly rate too...).

At first I was wondering what types of relationships these girls have with the manager, if she loves them, she'll get annoyed if im nitpicking (Which im NOT). but last week one girl (also 17-18) (I counted it in front of this one, and I left earlier.)
Well from what the mgr spoke of her she just seemed like 'another worker'. and TODAYS girl, 'got the job' from her friend (the 'just another worker' girl). This stuff is really SOOO below me to even bother with, but they just need to learn a lesson or 2.
So I should confront MissManager?

Stef, that stinks, I hate when people BRAG and they are ROBBING YOU ! Many moons ago I worked at the Garden (MSG) in the food courts, and OH MY GOODNESS the robbery that was going on there. They all had it down to a science, they would ring up less and keep some, or whatever they did. It was like wildfire, EVERYONE was doing it and they were ALWAYS bragging and TRYING to talk me into joining them on their new thing. Of course I NEVER did, and I also didnt tell anyone in management (for fear of my safety. I had a guy stalking me there, always by where I was working, standing there staring!! followed me to the train once and I didnt know he was there, so aside from that, 99% (all but me) were 'from a different crowd' so I minded my business and took my paycheck home.
Of course I played with THEIR heads a bit too, being the only 'Italian girl' there, they thought my father was John Gotti or something... sure, think what ya want.. just watch your step, lol.



OK did I babble again......

UGH, this is irking me.

In my experience I have always HATED it when people had a problem with me and went above me rather then talking to me directly. It urked me to no end.

I always felt that if you had a problem with my work or my work performance then talking to me directly would serve a better purpose then having to go to my manager, then my manager having to talk to me because I just felt like people were talking behind my back.

I was a part time employee at a very prostegious firm while I was in college and I cant tell you how many times people complained about things to managers. One person got mad that I didnt help them make copies and they told my boss I was not a team player. My manager came to me and basically told me that I am there to work and that if someone needs help no matter what I have to do it. I then tried to tell my manager that I was given a project by the big boss and that is why I couldnt help that person, but the manager didnt want to hear it. I felt that if that person would have taken 5 minutes to talk to me rather then jumping to my manager their really wouldnt have been a lot of hostility and a lot of anger would have been avoided.

I just always felt that it was benefitial that if someone had a problem they come to me first and talk to me because its the only way things can be resolved. If they felt that the situation was not resolved then yea go to the manager as the third party, but I just felt that honesty was the best policy and if their is an a problem go to the source.

Melissa, I totally agree on something like that, especially when something can be mis-interpreted. but math is math, theres no way to misinterpret NUMBER DIVIDED BY 2, LOL

My MIL suggests that next week, when I work with her, (and i'll be leaving earlier) for me to count the tip money, split it and tell the girl she shorted me a dollar last week, she took the $5 and left me $3.
should i do that? should i count it on my own or in front of her. who are these little high school girls though, that I have to give them respect when they show none ????????

I think definatly counting it in front of her is a good idea. Maybe she'll get a hint

OR

Maybe one day just start talking to her and ask her how her math skills are. Then tell her when she split the tips she may have miscounted.

Maybe you just counting the tips in front of her and spliting it she'll learn her lesson that you cought on and from no on she cant steal from you because you are in control of tips

That stinks Anna and you certainly don't deserve it!

I can just picture this girl totally denying it next week. ARG. How pathetic.. I guess from now on, I will play by my own rules..

ANNA

when she goes to count it... I would stand right in front of her and watch..

I say, ask the Moms at the gym to keep a log book of the tips that are put in the jar - this way, no matter who is working the shift, everyone is in agreement about how much tip there is to split.

Anna, I would definitely say something to the girl. It is not right that she thinks she can pull the wool over your eyes. Too many kids think they can get away with anything these days and never have consequences. In my view, the principle IS THE REASON - not the money, since it's only a couple of bucks. Obviously, Mom and Dad at home aren't doing much to inforce values w/this girl - OR maybe they are and she's just defiant. Perhaps a rude awakening from a stranger would do something to open her eyes.

And, I agree w/your MIL...count the tips in front of her and subtract what she shorted you from her share, so SHE KNOWS that you're onto her game, and you are taking back what was rightfully yours for working longer. JMO.

Thanks guys. As far as standing in front of them. I was sitting not far from her when she did count yesterday, but I had my eye on a few kiddies, and she didnt count it out loud so when someones shuffling through cash, unless theyre saying what it is, and unless your a foot away from them, it's based on honesty....

Next week, I will count it and take an extra buck or two and say somethhing then...

PLUS she worked an hour instead of two ! she just goes 'OH i have to leave early' now what if it was 40 children?? hello, did you prepare a backup plan?? and did you tell the mgr that youre leaving early?? luckily it was a VERY slow day yesterday..

I would tell the Mngr! Only because the girl doesn't seem to care about the job or it's other employees. That really ticks me off!!

you could ask the manager to 'work' out a easier way to split the tips. Where it's done in front of everyone. Make the Mngr say it's a 'new policy' Just say you don't want to start any trouble you just want what's fair! think about what these girls would do if YOU just stuffed money in your bag & left them w/ an odd amount.

yep, so true tracy, theyd act like kids and make a big fuss. im thinking what if it was a BUSY day and there she's leaving in an hour ?? and they stuff the money in their bags and leave???
the mgr works her shifts, and everyone works their own shifts. i havent had any type of 'meeting' of everyone. its a very informal 'whatever' type job it seems.. too bad I take everything, as simple as it is, ITS a JOB that needs to be done, and you treat it that way. youre not on vacation..

one lady was looking for her sons gameboy game that was lost. and the girl i was working with goes 'oh i had found it, i put it here, hmm wonder where it could be' not even responsible about where she left it, what winded up happening to it, etc... of course moms are responsible for their own losses if they choose for their children to bring these expensive game boys and games to daycare, but the girl seemed like she was in a daze, like 'oh big deal whatever'. i didnt even know about it, and i was like 'oh im sorry it got lost, maybe we can ask at the front desk also, lets look at the lost and found bin, etc etc.' i worked at age 14 and i dont remember being so lax and irresponsible and childish.