Bush has hit a new low today...is that even possible?

He wants a constituational amendement on outlawing gay marriage...WTF? We are AT WAR!!! our jobless rate is one of the highest in years, children have no healthcare and all he can do is worry about 2 people who love each other who want to get married? And he has the gall to say that he needs to protect the welfare of children? Okay, Bush how about look at the foster care system in our country? how about get new books for our kids in school? how about worry that children are homeless, abused, hungry?

I guess he needs to make a few American happy since he cannot fix any of the REAL problems!

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Posted by michele31

I guess he needs to make a few American happy since he cannot fix any of the REAL problems!

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I couldn't agree more!!!!!

WHen you have the religious right whispering in your ear, and lining your pockets, I guess you have to listen, if you want to be reelected.

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I am just upset that anyone would deny 2 people who love each other at least a civil union...


the churches/temples/synagogues can all ban it...but to me its just as bad as racism...why don't some people have the same rights as we on this board do...

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I support Bush on many of his issues but this one I cant support him. If he is going to ban gay marriages, then he might as well ban inter-racial marriages also. matter of fact...you can only marry someone with the same background, color and religious affilation as yourself!!

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Posted by michele31

He wants a constituational amendement on outlawing gay marriage...WTF? We are AT WAR!!! our jobless rate is one of the highest in years, children have no healthcare and all he can do is worry about 2 people who love each other who want to get married? And he has the gall to say that he needs to protect the welfare of children? Okay, Bush how about look at the foster care system in our country? how about get new books for our kids in school? how about worry that children are homeless, abused, hungry?

I guess he needs to make a few American happy since he cannot fix any of the REAL problems!

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AMEN!!!!!!

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Posted by Lisa Rose

I support Bush on many of his issues but this one I cant support him. If he is going to ban gay marriages, then he might as well ban inter-racial marriages also. matter of fact...you can only marry someone with the same background, color and religious affilation as yourself!!

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Well I don't think interracial marriages and gay marriages are quite the same but I get your point.

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Posted by shelzyp

WHen you have the religious right whispering in your ear, and lining your pockets, I guess you have to listen, if you want to be reelected.

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True, but I think this one is going to backfire...

THANK GOD

Bush is going to go down, down down...

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Posted by NYCHICK

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Posted by Lisa Rose

I support Bush on many of his issues but this one I cant support him. If he is going to ban gay marriages, then he might as well ban inter-racial marriages also. matter of fact...you can only marry someone with the same background, color and religious affilation as yourself!!

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Well I don't think interracial marriages and gay marriages are quite the same but I get your point.

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at one point, inter-racial marriages were banned in certain states.

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Posted by michele31

He wants a constituational amendement on outlawing gay marriage...WTF? We are AT WAR!!! our jobless rate is one of the highest in years, children have no healthcare and all he can do is worry about 2 people who love each other who want to get married? And he has the gall to say that he needs to protect the welfare of children? Okay, Bush how about look at the foster care system in our country? how about get new books for our kids in school? how about worry that children are homeless, abused, hungry?

I guess he needs to make a few American happy since he cannot fix any of the REAL problems!

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I agree. He's capitalizing on the fact that this measure would, sadly, carry bipartisan support. I think he's a little surprised by the unity and organization the Democrats have recently showed and is trying desparately to secure the moderate voters before Kerry does.

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Just when I didn't think it was possible for him to slink any lower...he scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

Well said Michele.

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Posted by Lisa Rose

at one point, inter-racial marriages were banned in certain states.

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Yes, at one point NOT TOO LONG ago, no less. Sad, really, so sad. And disgusting.

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Posted by Lisa Rose

at one point, inter-racial marriages were banned in certain states.

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I am aware of this but one of the fundamental issues with gay marriages is procreation, which interracial couples are still able to do naturally and gay couples cannot.

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Personally I'm done with him!

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Posted by Betty

Personally I'm done with him!

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Let's hope everyone is!!!

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He is pretty much just put the nail in the coffin with this thing(presidential wise). Unless all the people who are in favor of a gay marriage ban actually go out and vote.

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FROM CNN.COM

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush said Tuesday that he supports a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage to 'prevent the meaning of marriage from being changed forever.'

Criticizing San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, judges of the Massachusetts Supreme Court, and county officials in New Mexico who moved to let same-sex couples receive marriage licenses, Bush said that in recent months 'some activist judges and local officials have made an aggressive attempt to redefine marriage.

'And unless action is taken, we can expect more arbitrary court decisions, more litigation, more defiance of the law by local officials, all of which adds to uncertainty.

'After more than two centuries of American jurisprudence and millennia of human experience, a few judges and local authorities are presuming to change the most fundamental institution of civilization. Their actions have created confusion on an issue that requires clarity.'

Bush said states might be forced to recognize same-sex marriages performed in states that allow them.

'On a matter of such importance, the voice of the people must be heard. Activist courts have left the people with one recourse. If we're to prevent the meaning of marriage from being changed forever, our nation must enact a constitutional amendment to protect marriage in America. Decisive and democratic action is needed because attempts to redefine marriage in a single state or city could have serious consequences throughout the country.'

He called on Congress to 'promptly pass and send to the states for ratification' an amendment that would specifically define marriage as the union of a 'husband and wife.'

But Bush also said state legislatures should be left to define 'legal arrangements other than marriage,' suggesting that such an amendment would do nothing to stop states from allowing civil unions for same-sex couples.

'Our government should respect every person and protect the institution of marriage,' he said. 'There is not a contradiction between these responsibilities.'

A call for civil debate
Bush called for a civil debate on the controversial issue.

'We should also conduct this difficult debate in a matter worthy of our country, without bitterness or anger. In all that lies ahead, let us match strong convictions with kindness and good will and decency.'

As recently as last week, Bush repeated his belief that marriage should be restricted to heterosexual couples. (Full story)

He added that he was 'troubled' by legal decisions in Massachusetts that could clear the way for same-sex marriage -- and the decision by San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom this month to defy state law and order the county clerk to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Thousands of couples have taken advantage. (California high court may get same-sex marriage)

Last week, Bush said he was paying close attention to what was taking place in San Francisco and Massachusetts.

'I have watched carefully what's happening in San Francisco, where licenses were being issued, even though the law states otherwise,' Bush said. 'I have consistently stated that I'll support law to protect marriage between a man and a woman. Obviously these events are influencing my decision.'

'I am watching very carefully, but I am troubled by what I've seen,' Bush said.

In his State of the Union speech last month, Bush has addressed same-sex marriage, saying, 'our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.' (Full story)

He stopped short of endorsing a constitutional amendment that would ban marriages for gay and lesbian couples, as social conservative groups had hoped.

Instead, Bush said, 'if judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process.'

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OHHHH He makes me so MAD!!!!!!!

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Well said Michele - I couldn't agree with you more. I am beyond the point of being surprised by his actions.

I just hate that he feels he represents the majority of Americans! Hah - he did not even get the majority vote for Presidency!

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What sanctity is he defending? Since when is the love between two people, breaking the sanctity of marriage? Why is a union between 2 gay people more offensive than The Bachelor/ette, The Littlest Groom, My Big, Fat Obnoxious...?? Why is the definition of marriage, procreation? And couples who cannot reproduce - their marriage should be nullified?

Grrrr, he really chaps my a-s.

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Posted by Jeanene

Well said Michele - I couldn't agree with you more. I am beyond the point of being surprised by his actions.

I just hate that he feels he represents the majority of Americans! Hah - he did not even get the majority vote for Presidency!

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What's scary is, that he DOES represent a lot of Americans... Minus the two coasts you have people who really do like him! Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how one looks at it) it's taking the hemorrhaging of jobs for these people in the middle to realize that our country is really in deep doo doo.