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tax questions - marriage penalty?

Original post by LisaT

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For couples where both are working and making similiar incomes, did you get screwed on taxes filing jointly?

I'm concerned that we're going to owe big time this year. We can off set some of that with investment losses, but I don't think we're entitled to the $6K we would be if we were single.

Also, I just got laid off last week. I'm still getting regular paychecks through 12/31 and I also get a lump sum payment equal to another 4 months salary. So basically, my income this year is going to be 33% more than 'normal' (since 1/3 of what should be next year, I'm getting this year). And that lump sum amount doesn't have 401k contributions taken from it. (the good news is I get paid to not work for the next 6 months).

So far, we've dropped both our with-holding allowances down to 0% and upped my 401K contribution to 15% (for the next 2 months of paychecks) - will that be enough? I don't want to be using our house savings to pay taxes!

Sorry for the ranting, but I'm hoping those of you who have gone through tax filing as a married couple already can advise me.

Thanks, Lisa
NovemberSue

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karen32

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99.9% of the time you should always file Married Filing Jointly. The only time when Married Filing Separately is beneficial is when one spouse makes significantly less (I'm talking 1/5 or 1/6 of the other spouse). Under those circumstances, sometimes it's better to file separately and allocate all your itemized deductions to the wage-earner spouse. Since the lower earning spouse is already in the lower tax bracket, you may be able to bring the wage-earner spouse into a lower tax bracket by giving him/her all the deductions. It's very rare that it works out better this way.

The best thing to do is to spend $20 and get Turbo Tax. It's by far the best product out there. It asks a million little questions that most people (incl. accountants) don't think to ask. I use it for my clients I do outside of Deloitte. If you watch the Staples/Office Max circular, you can sometimes get the software even cheaper after rebates. I think it's $20 for the federal and $40 for NYS. (TIP: Buy one copy and split the cost with friends - for some reason Turbo Tax allows you to download it a gazillion times).

Good Luck!!
LisaT

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Karen- this is great info! How do I defer income to next year? Since its rightfully income I would've earned next year anyway...

karen32

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Hi Lisa -

Deferring income is a little tricky. If you're a 'regular' employee who gets a W-2, there's not much you can do. What is on your W-2 is what gets reported. Sometimes its possible to have an employer defer a year-end bonus until after January 1 - but usually the company wants the liability off their books by year-end, so that's not too common.

If you're self-employed, you have a little more leeway in reporting your income. Essentially, you report income in the year that it's earned. If you're an outside consultant, for example, and somebody pays you in late-December for work to be done in 2003, you can defer that income until 2003.

***** One more super-important thing that just came to mind - make sure you file your tax return under the EXACT SAME NAME as your social security number. If you don't change your social security card to reflect your married name, make sure your tax return shows your maiden name - Jane Doe & John Smith, not Jane & John Smith. The IRS shares the same database as the Social Security department and will bounce back your return if the names don't match. Not a huge deal, but still a hassle (my grandmother got remarried so I filed her return Mr. & Mrs. Kusy - well, Grandma didn't change her name with SS, so her return got bounced back, too funny - 85 yr old being audited)

Another long post - sorry ladies!!!

Keep the questions coming!!
teresa518

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Karen,

Thanks for all the good info. I'm a CPA and could've answered some of these but you've been a real help. I guess I wouldn't call myself an expert since I still get my taxes done by someone else!!!

Keep the good info coming. I know lots of people have questions about taxes - especially after first getting married.

FYI - We also get killed by the Marriage Penalty.
hannadavis

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Marriage penalty can be confusing but what I know is that when you are married you pay more than what you pay when you are single. Higher taxes required from some married couples, where spouses are making approximately the same taxable income, filing one tax return than for the same two people filing two separate tax returns if they were unmarried. The percentage of tax has varied depending on shifts in tax rates. It could take money so “You can APPLY NOW for installment loans for bad credit installment loan to pay for your taxes this year, especially if you just got married.

Gin-Char 104

tax questions - marriage penalty?

This information has been so helpful! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

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