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The D word

Original post by MnM182008

So I went out to dinner last night with a good friend of mine and two of her friends. One of the girls is getting a divorced after being married for 10 months. So they were all talking to one another and everyone of them said they had a back up plan in case of divorce. Meaning financially, where they would live, even dating.

I was soooo shocked. One girl even said 'I always told myself if it doesn't work out there is always divorce'. I never even thought of planning for divorce. For me divorce isn't an option.

Now I am wondering if more people think this way.
Toucan311 Posted:

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Exactly! I think that 95% of people REALLY go into a marriage thinking/hoping it will be forever. But obviously 50% of them face problems that make them change their minds. Its unforseen and sad, but it happens. Life changes.

CD516 Posted:

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Posted by Mimacat

Wow. I think its pretty judgemental to say divorce is not an option and to assume that people who end up divorced shouldn't have gotten married. None of us know what the future holds for us. Of course none of us go into a marriage aspiring for divorce, but do most people, really? Life can throw some curve balls at you, and its naive, I think, to assume that divorce isn't an option in some of these situations.

What about that poor girl on the 09 board the other day. She went into marriage under false pretenses -- she had no idea that her FH, now DH, had been misusing their money very wrecklessly and secretly. This was something she had NO control of. So should she be bound to work on this marriage now when it was clearly NOT built on trust as she thought it had been? I don't think its really fair to say she should have to.

What if, God forbid, one of us was in that circumstance. Your DH had, unbeknownst to you, been spending a years worth of your rent on God knows what and lying to your face about it. Are you prepared to face that sort of betrayal? Are you ready to sacrifice your happiness for the sake of vows that you took not really knowing what you were in for? Or, as we also saw last week, your new DH actually has a side relationship with a woman and ends up having a child with her. Is that something you're prepared to deal with and work through? I know thats not what *I* signed up for. I'd hate to think that marriage vows are like a 'get out of jail free' card for things like betrayal and infidelity. Jeez, what if DH cheats with your sister. How could you ever even LOOK at him again?

I just think that NONE of us know what even OUR future holds, so to make a blanket statement saying divorce is NOT an option is pretty silly and might come back to bite 50% of us right in the hiney one day.

I agree with what your saying. Divorce is an option that is given but is not one that you necessarily have to choose. However, circumstances arise and that may be the only last resort. Im not advocating divorce, but i think maybe more women should know that they are financially independent incase god forbid the situation should arise that they need to be. Some women feel forced to stay in abusive marriages because they can not afford to leave and be on their own.
Ayne11 Posted:

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Posted by Mimacat

Wow. I think its pretty judgemental to say divorce is not an option and to assume that people who end up divorced shouldn't have gotten married. None of us know what the future holds for us. Of course none of us go into a marriage aspiring for divorce, but do most people, really? Life can throw some curve balls at you, and its naive, I think, to assume that divorce isn't an option in some of these situations.

What about that poor girl on the 09 board the other day. She went into marriage under false pretenses -- she had no idea that her FH, now DH, had been misusing their money very wrecklessly and secretly. This was something she had NO control of. So should she be bound to work on this marriage now when it was clearly NOT built on trust as she thought it had been? I don't think its really fair to say she should have to.

What if, God forbid, one of us was in that circumstance. Your DH had, unbeknownst to you, been spending a years worth of your rent on God knows what and lying to your face about it. Are you prepared to face that sort of betrayal? Are you ready to sacrifice your happiness for the sake of vows that you took not really knowing what you were in for? Or, as we also saw last week, your new DH actually has a side relationship with a woman and ends up having a child with her. Is that something you're prepared to deal with and work through? I know thats not what *I* signed up for. I'd hate to think that marriage vows are like a 'get out of jail free' card for things like betrayal and infidelity. Jeez, what if DH cheats with your sister. How could you ever even LOOK at him again?

I just think that NONE of us know what even OUR future holds, so to make a blanket statement saying divorce is NOT an option is pretty silly and might come back to bite 50% of us right in the hiney one day.



I agree, & all the examples you used are all acceptable grounds for divorce. But I think the OP was referring to girls who say 'ehh, I don't feel like being married anymore' and head straight for divorce rather than ask themselves why they don't want to be married to this man anymore.

JMO!
Toucan311 Posted:

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Posted by Ayne11


Posted by Mimacat

Wow. I think its pretty judgemental to say divorce is not an option and to assume that people who end up divorced shouldn't have gotten married. None of us know what the future holds for us. Of course none of us go into a marriage aspiring for divorce, but do most people, really? Life can throw some curve balls at you, and its naive, I think, to assume that divorce isn't an option in some of these situations.

What about that poor girl on the 09 board the other day. She went into marriage under false pretenses -- she had no idea that her FH, now DH, had been misusing their money very wrecklessly and secretly. This was something she had NO control of. So should she be bound to work on this marriage now when it was clearly NOT built on trust as she thought it had been? I don't think its really fair to say she should have to.

What if, God forbid, one of us was in that circumstance. Your DH had, unbeknownst to you, been spending a years worth of your rent on God knows what and lying to your face about it. Are you prepared to face that sort of betrayal? Are you ready to sacrifice your happiness for the sake of vows that you took not really knowing what you were in for? Or, as we also saw last week, your new DH actually has a side relationship with a woman and ends up having a child with her. Is that something you're prepared to deal with and work through? I know thats not what *I* signed up for. I'd hate to think that marriage vows are like a 'get out of jail free' card for things like betrayal and infidelity. Jeez, what if DH cheats with your sister. How could you ever even LOOK at him again?

I just think that NONE of us know what even OUR future holds, so to make a blanket statement saying divorce is NOT an option is pretty silly and might come back to bite 50% of us right in the hiney one day.



I agree, & all the examples you used are all acceptable grounds for divorce. But I think the OP was referring to girls who say 'ehh, I don't feel like being married anymore' and head straight for divorce rather than ask themselves why don't I want to be married to this man anymore.

JMO!



Well I might get divorced next week b/c I'm tired of DH only wearing Charlie Harper shirts. Enough already; I need a man who wears sleeves. JMO.
Ayne11 Posted:

Re: The D word


Posted by Mimacat


Posted by Ayne11


Posted by Mimacat

Wow. I think its pretty judgemental to say divorce is not an option and to assume that people who end up divorced shouldn't have gotten married. None of us know what the future holds for us. Of course none of us go into a marriage aspiring for divorce, but do most people, really? Life can throw some curve balls at you, and its naive, I think, to assume that divorce isn't an option in some of these situations.

What about that poor girl on the 09 board the other day. She went into marriage under false pretenses -- she had no idea that her FH, now DH, had been misusing their money very wrecklessly and secretly. This was something she had NO control of. So should she be bound to work on this marriage now when it was clearly NOT built on trust as she thought it had been? I don't think its really fair to say she should have to.

What if, God forbid, one of us was in that circumstance. Your DH had, unbeknownst to you, been spending a years worth of your rent on God knows what and lying to your face about it. Are you prepared to face that sort of betrayal? Are you ready to sacrifice your happiness for the sake of vows that you took not really knowing what you were in for? Or, as we also saw last week, your new DH actually has a side relationship with a woman and ends up having a child with her. Is that something you're prepared to deal with and work through? I know thats not what *I* signed up for. I'd hate to think that marriage vows are like a 'get out of jail free' card for things like betrayal and infidelity. Jeez, what if DH cheats with your sister. How could you ever even LOOK at him again?

I just think that NONE of us know what even OUR future holds, so to make a blanket statement saying divorce is NOT an option is pretty silly and might come back to bite 50% of us right in the hiney one day.



I agree, & all the examples you used are all acceptable grounds for divorce. But I think the OP was referring to girls who say 'ehh, I don't feel like being married anymore' and head straight for divorce rather than ask themselves why don't I want to be married to this man anymore.

JMO!



Well I might get divorced next week b/c I'm tired of DH only wearing Charlie Harper shirts. Enough already; I need a man who wears sleeves. JMO.



GO buy some and kindly lay them out on the bed whilst batting your eyelashes at him!
mrspalomino148 Posted:

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I don't believe in divorce, unless something happens that you seriously cannot work through. my parents are celebrating 29 years in a few days, and believe me it wasnt always good. however, they worked through it and ive never seen my parents more in love. so i think that if things are tough, but you want to make them work, they can.

some use it as an easy way out, but then some people are just not meant to be.. mil was divorced twice, and now sil, before she got pregnant, was planning on a divorce too and all three were because of cheating, so i understand to a certain extent why they were divorced, or planning too.
MnM182008 Posted:

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Posted by Mimacat

Wow. I think its pretty judgemental to say divorce is not an option and to assume that people who end up divorced shouldn't have gotten married. None of us know what the future holds for us. Of course none of us go into a marriage aspiring for divorce, but do most people, really? Life can throw some curve balls at you, and its naive, I think, to assume that divorce isn't an option in some of these situations.

What about that poor girl on the 09 board the other day. She went into marriage under false pretenses -- she had no idea that her FH, now DH, had been misusing their money very wrecklessly and secretly. This was something she had NO control of. So should she be bound to work on this marriage now when it was clearly NOT built on trust as she thought it had been? I don't think its really fair to say she should have to.

What if, God forbid, one of us was in that circumstance. Your DH had, unbeknownst to you, been spending a years worth of your rent on God knows what and lying to your face about it. Are you prepared to face that sort of betrayal? Are you ready to sacrifice your happiness for the sake of vows that you took not really knowing what you were in for? Or, as we also saw last week, your new DH actually has a side relationship with a woman and ends up having a child with her. Is that something you're prepared to deal with and work through? I know thats not what *I* signed up for. I'd hate to think that marriage vows are like a 'get out of jail free' card for things like betrayal and infidelity. Jeez, what if DH cheats with your sister. How could you ever even LOOK at him again?

I just think that NONE of us know what even OUR future holds, so to make a blanket statement saying divorce is NOT an option is pretty silly and might come back to bite 50% of us right in the hiney one day.




I totally agree. Obviously none of us know what life will bring and there circumstances like abuse, affairs, and cases were the relationship is unhealthy.

What I was shocked about by my friends last night was they had a plan for divorce. All 3 of them had already thought about what they would do if they got divorced.

The one girl who is getting divorced after 10 months main complaint was that life changed and he wanted to spend more time with his friends. For me that isn't a reason for divorce that is a reason to head towards a marriage counselor, not divorce.
kimNanthony Posted:

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Posted by MnM182008


Posted by Mimacat

Wow. I think its pretty judgemental to say divorce is not an option and to assume that people who end up divorced shouldn't have gotten married. None of us know what the future holds for us. Of course none of us go into a marriage aspiring for divorce, but do most people, really? Life can throw some curve balls at you, and its naive, I think, to assume that divorce isn't an option in some of these situations.

What about that poor girl on the 09 board the other day. She went into marriage under false pretenses -- she had no idea that her FH, now DH, had been misusing their money very wrecklessly and secretly. This was something she had NO control of. So should she be bound to work on this marriage now when it was clearly NOT built on trust as she thought it had been? I don't think its really fair to say she should have to.

What if, God forbid, one of us was in that circumstance. Your DH had, unbeknownst to you, been spending a years worth of your rent on God knows what and lying to your face about it. Are you prepared to face that sort of betrayal? Are you ready to sacrifice your happiness for the sake of vows that you took not really knowing what you were in for? Or, as we also saw last week, your new DH actually has a side relationship with a woman and ends up having a child with her. Is that something you're prepared to deal with and work through? I know thats not what *I* signed up for. I'd hate to think that marriage vows are like a 'get out of jail free' card for things like betrayal and infidelity. Jeez, what if DH cheats with your sister. How could you ever even LOOK at him again?

I just think that NONE of us know what even OUR future holds, so to make a blanket statement saying divorce is NOT an option is pretty silly and might come back to bite 50% of us right in the hiney one day.




I totally agree. Obviously none of us know what life will bring and there circumstances like abuse, affairs, and cases were the relationship is unhealthy.

What I was shocked about by my friends last night was they had a plan for divorce. All 3 of them had already thought about what they would do if they got divorced.

The one girl who is getting divorced after 10 months main complaint was that life changed and he wanted to spend more time with his friends. For me that isn't a reason for divorce that is a reason to head towards a marriage counselor, not divorce.



Personally I think it is smart of a woman to think about the possibility that she could end up divorced and what she would do in that situation. So many women are forced to stay in horrible marriages because they didn't think about this and end up financially dependent on their husband.

I also have many women clients who cannot afford to put a roof over their children's heads after the husband decides he wants out of the marriage.

Personally I think it is a smart thing to think about. It doesn't mean you plan on doing it, but it is good to be prepared if it does happen and is not in your control.
dajc23 Posted:

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Posted by kimNanthony


Posted by MnM182008


Posted by Mimacat

Wow. I think its pretty judgemental to say divorce is not an option and to assume that people who end up divorced shouldn't have gotten married. None of us know what the future holds for us. Of course none of us go into a marriage aspiring for divorce, but do most people, really? Life can throw some curve balls at you, and its naive, I think, to assume that divorce isn't an option in some of these situations.

What about that poor girl on the 09 board the other day. She went into marriage under false pretenses -- she had no idea that her FH, now DH, had been misusing their money very wrecklessly and secretly. This was something she had NO control of. So should she be bound to work on this marriage now when it was clearly NOT built on trust as she thought it had been? I don't think its really fair to say she should have to.

What if, God forbid, one of us was in that circumstance. Your DH had, unbeknownst to you, been spending a years worth of your rent on God knows what and lying to your face about it. Are you prepared to face that sort of betrayal? Are you ready to sacrifice your happiness for the sake of vows that you took not really knowing what you were in for? Or, as we also saw last week, your new DH actually has a side relationship with a woman and ends up having a child with her. Is that something you're prepared to deal with and work through? I know thats not what *I* signed up for. I'd hate to think that marriage vows are like a 'get out of jail free' card for things like betrayal and infidelity. Jeez, what if DH cheats with your sister. How could you ever even LOOK at him again?

I just think that NONE of us know what even OUR future holds, so to make a blanket statement saying divorce is NOT an option is pretty silly and might come back to bite 50% of us right in the hiney one day.




I totally agree. Obviously none of us know what life will bring and there circumstances like abuse, affairs, and cases were the relationship is unhealthy.

What I was shocked about by my friends last night was they had a plan for divorce. All 3 of them had already thought about what they would do if they got divorced.

The one girl who is getting divorced after 10 months main complaint was that life changed and he wanted to spend more time with his friends. For me that isn't a reason for divorce that is a reason to head towards a marriage counselor, not divorce.



Personally I think it is smart of a woman to think about the possibility that she could end up divorced and what she would do in that situation. So many women are forced to stay in horrible marriages because they didn't think about this and end up financially dependent on their husband.

I also have many women clients who cannot afford to put a roof over their children's heads after the husband decides he wants out of the marriage.

Personally I think it is a smart thing to think about. It doesn't mean you plan on doing it, but it is good to be prepared if it does happen and is not in your control.



I 100% agree with this. You need to think of the 'what ifs'.
I'd never ever be able to look at DH the same if say god forbid he did something so horrible to me. I can forgive but I cannot forget. I could never look at him on a daily basis and not think of the crap he had put me through.
Then again people just drift apart in general. Nothing bad has to happen to realize you are just not compatible anymore. People are in relationships all the time where it just dies down and you move on.
Toucan311 Posted:

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Now we know who the true thread killer is.

dajc23 Posted:

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Posted by Mimacat

Now we know who the true thread killer is.



trust me, I always knew I was it!
Autumn08 Posted:

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Planning for a divorce? I don't even know what to say. Divorce isn't an option for us and I don't think that is the right attitude to have going into a marriage. If you are not sure if you are going to make it why get married?

I'm not saying I'm against divorce or those that are divorced. In some cases it can be good. My aunt and uncle are better now than when they were married.. go figure

But to have a plan and to say to yourself 'There's always divorce.' Now that's shocking. We agree that divorce is not an option but on another hand we've also acknowledged that it could happen - we just aren't planning for it if this makes sense.

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