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A question about the Terri Sheivo story

Original post by heidla

Let's just say that her husband had left the decision to her parents and they decided to take out the feeding tube. Would you opinion on the situation change?


It just seems as if some people are more upset about the fact that the husband was allowed to make the decision and not the result of the decision itself.
Sassyz75 Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by don424

so we should kill all the vegetables?



IMO...If they are brain dead..they should be taken off life support system YES!

Keeping bodies here is disgusting and abusive!

SHe is waiting to be at peace!



Well, what about technological innovation.. what we could do today we couldn't do 20, even 10 years ago.. isn't there something to be said for younger people... keeping them alive if there is 'promise'? I'm not saying in THIS case- I'm saying in general...

I have another thought- how is killing all people on life support any different from what the Nazis did- gassing all the sick/retarded kids...?
suven Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by suven

I don't think life support (of any type) should be terminated unless all sides agree. (This being in the absense of any documentation based on what the patient wanted)

And, I don't think that someone who has already moved on should be able to decide if she lives or dies.

Just for argument's sake, what would this man do if Terri did make a full recovery? Would he leave his new family and be with her? I doubt it! Therefore, he should not have a say in whether she lives or dies.



SUE...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HER HUSBAND AND EVERYTHING OT DO WITH HER CONDITION

HER CONDITION...IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT HERE

NOT HER HUSBAND NOT THE MONEY NOT THE DOCTORS....
TERRI!!!

So if terris parents said to let her go...that would be ok????



IMO, it would only be okay if: they all KNEW that she would have wanted it to be this way.

This issue is not that her parents just feel like keeping her alive, just for the sake of it. They truly believe that she would NOT have wanted to die. That's why they are putting up this fight.

Again, IMO, I don't think the husband is a reliable source. He was messing around a year after this happened. And, he didn't even MENTION that she would have wanted to die until 8 years later. I just don't believe that he's telling the truth.
tourist Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by suven


Posted by BriBri529

I think if one side wanted her alive that they should have the right to take care of her- whether it be the parents or the husband. What kills things for me is this man moved on and had 2 children with another woman. I don't feel he should have both- the rights to what happens to her and the right to move on. Wedding vows are sacred and if he couldn't walk away completely before moving on he should have kept his vows. For me when it comes to wedding vows it is black and white - no grey areas.



agreed.

I don't think life support (of any type) should be terminated unless all sides agree. (This being in the absense of any documentation based on what the patient wanted)

And, I don't think that someone who has already moved on should be able to decide if she lives or dies.

Just for argument's sake, what would this man do if Terri did make a full recovery? Would he leave his new family and be with her? I doubt it! Therefore, he should not have a say in whether she lives or dies.



but what would constitute all sides?
Where do you draw the line?
luvsbob4603 Posted:

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i thinks its sad that terri is suffering and i know her parents are properly feeling like they should be helping their daughter by wanting her on the feeding tube and yes it is properly a very hard thing to let a child die but with her off the feeding tube i thinkits the best that she rest in peace i heard today they are giving her till friday to live and i am sad about it but i say if its her time to go let her go because she wont be suffering anymore. as for her husband he is something else he already has another woman and two children so i seriously dont think he has a right to make a decision on Terri anymore he gave up those rights when he started his new life.

suven Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by don424

so we should kill all the vegetables?



IMO...If they are brain dead..they should be taken off life support system YES!

Keeping bodies here is disgusting and abusive!

SHe is waiting to be at peace!



But, what if they specifically said, 'no matter what, keep me alive?'

Yesterday, my mother and my husband both announced to the WHOLE FAMILY that no matter WHAT, they want every possible thing to keep them alive- every possible intervention, they want it all.

So, GOD FORBID, this happens, would I be a disgusting and abusive person for keeping them all hooked up?
RedHead Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by Sassyz75

I have another thought- how is killing all people on life support any different from what the Nazis did- gassing all the sick/retarded kids...?



Are you serious....are your seriously going to compare that..
I won't even bother answering that is how silly that comparison is
RedHead Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by suven


Posted by RedHead


Posted by don424

so we should kill all the vegetables?



IMO...If they are brain dead..they should be taken off life support system YES!

Keeping bodies here is disgusting and abusive!

SHe is waiting to be at peace!



But, what if they specifically said, 'no matter what, keep me alive?'

Yesterday, my mother and my husband both announced to the WHOLE FAMILY that no matter WHAT, they want every possible thing to keep them alive- every possible intervention, they want it all.

So, GOD FORBID, this happens, would I be a disgusting and abusive person for keeping them all hooked up?


i feel bad for you then!

ANd yes i wold think you would be a very selfish person for keeping anyone alive like that!
don424 Posted:

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that is a tad over the top

Sassyz75 Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by Sassyz75

I have another thought- how is killing all people on life support any different from what the Nazis did- gassing all the sick/retarded kids...?



Are you serious....are your seriously going to compare that..
I won't even bother answering that is how silly that comparison is



Is it?

what if we used your standard and just started pulling the plus on people against their wills... is that not similar?
RedHead Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by don424

that is a tad over the top


why?
none of you know what it is like to live with someone who has TBI much less brain dead..

I work with TBI patients! MY UNCLE IS ONE..I know exactly what it is like....ANd i think it is sad that anyone would want family member like that....
don424 Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by don424

that is a tad over the top


why?
none of you know what it is like to live with someone who has TBI much less brain dead..

I work with TBI patients! MY UNCLE IS ONE..I know exactly what it is like....ANd i think it is sad that anyone would want family member like that....



no no red

i meant the nazi thing is a tad over the top
suven Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by suven


Posted by RedHead


Posted by don424

so we should kill all the vegetables?



IMO...If they are brain dead..they should be taken off life support system YES!

Keeping bodies here is disgusting and abusive!

SHe is waiting to be at peace!



But, what if they specifically said, 'no matter what, keep me alive?'

Yesterday, my mother and my husband both announced to the WHOLE FAMILY that no matter WHAT, they want every possible thing to keep them alive- every possible intervention, they want it all.

So, GOD FORBID, this happens, would I be a disgusting and abusive person for keeping them all hooked up?


i feel bad for you then!

ANd yes i wold think you would be a very selfish person for keeping anyone alive like that!



See, but I think that after they specifically told me: I want EVERYTHING possible (and, my mom is a nurse, so she knows all about PVS, and all of it) I would be murdering them, if I unhooked them, after being SPECIFICALLY told ' I want EVERY possible thing, no matter what.'

RedHead Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by Sassyz75

Is it?

what if we used your standard and just started pulling the plus on people against their wills... is that not similar?



RETARDED PEOPLE ARE NOT BRAIN DEAD...adn to make a comparison as if it relevant is riduculous!

AND no it isn't similar at alll! THEY HAVE NO WILL...THEY HAVE NOT THOUGHT...THEY HAVE ONLY A BODY.
mattnnic327 Posted:

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Would it still be wrong... absolutely. It has nothing to do who is making the decision. Like Don said it is inhumane, and there are children that I have worked with that are brain dead and on feeding tubes, every parent did not decide that they'd pull the tube on their child.. IMO food is a necessity to live.. should not be seen as something that could be taken away to make someone die in her case.

RedHead Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by suven


See, but I think that after they specifically told me: I want EVERYTHING possible (and, my mom is a nurse, so she knows all about PVS, and all of it) I would be murdering them, if I unhooked them, after being SPECIFICALLY told ' I want EVERY possible thing, no matter what.'




WELL You are right and i take that back...if it is their wish ...i agree follow it...I just don't think you or your family REALLY know the gravity of your decision...and THAT part i guess is SAD
MCDO15 Posted:

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imo - it could go either way. fact is, we the people don't know all the facts. the media takes things as they would like it. i have reasons for keeping her alive and not. i hope i never have to make a decsion like that in my life thus i avoid talking about it. DW ask me this on HM before bed one night... and i said exactly what i said before. she didnt' say any further what she would want me to do. deep down, any decesion is a correct one. To sit in a bed confined for the rest of your life without a posibilty of knowing you will be better is horrible..then again, medcine or somthing can be found tomorrow to make her better. It's a sad story and like every story, so body will get hurt from it.

luvsbob4603 Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story

how are you murdering them if they are braindead. if the family wants to let go of their loved one because they are suffering and there is no life there how are you murdering them? i mean if that was mean if i was braindead for 15 years i would not want to be on a feedingtube just let me go peacefully!

RedHead Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by mattnnic327

Would it still be wrong... absolutely. It has nothing to do who is making the decision. Like Don said it is inhumane, and there are children that I have worked with that are brain dead and on feeding tubes, every parent did not decide that they'd pull the tube on their child.. IMO food is a necessity to live.. should not be seen as something that could be taken away to make someone die in her case.



it isn't inhumane! SHe will die peacefully
Sassyz75 Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by Sassyz75

Is it?

what if we used your standard and just started pulling the plus on people against their wills... is that not similar?



RETARDED PEOPLE ARE NOT BRAIN DEAD...adn to make a comparison as if it relevant is riduculous!

AND no it isn't similar at alll! THEY HAVE NO WILL...THEY HAVE NOT THOUGHT...THEY HAVE ONLY A BODY.



if i remember my history lessons correctly- it was actually mostly all people in care facilities or those that didn't meet a certain standard.

I guess my point is- putting a standard on what is or is not acceptable living conditions is a very dangerous thing to do.. I don't think ANYONE has the right to say someone's life is or is not worth living- it is up to the individual. I guess that's a huge problem here- not REALLY knowing Terry's issue and her husband being so shady.
don424 Posted:

Re: A question about the Terri Sheivo story


Posted by RedHead


Posted by mattnnic327

Would it still be wrong... absolutely. It has nothing to do who is making the decision. Like Don said it is inhumane, and there are children that I have worked with that are brain dead and on feeding tubes, every parent did not decide that they'd pull the tube on their child.. IMO food is a necessity to live.. should not be seen as something that could be taken away to make someone die in her case.



it isn't inhumane! SHe will die peacefully



are you her?

no, then you don't know

you are speculating

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