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A Very good Soprano's explanation

CJ32 Posted:

A Very good Soprano's explanation

Tony Soprano was killed....


In fact, the ending was genius if you've paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell y'all why and explain in detail... There was 4 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony.....

The two black guys were paid before to kill Tony when his mother put a hit out on him but he was clipped in the ear in Season One.

The trucker at the booth near Tony was the brother of a Trucker, Christopher killed in DVD player robbery. We last saw the brother when he went to identify his dead brother's body.

And lastly, from the earlier seasons, the Italian man who was sitting at the counter stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki Leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew. He was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down....

Here is where the genius comes in....

When Tony walks into the Holston's, you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at...


Then the camera switches back to Tony's face, then it once again
switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in..... Everytime the door opens the chimes sound.......

Carmela walks in, Chimes.
AJ walks in, Chimes.

This all happens while Meadow is parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant....

At this point the camera switches back Nikki Leotardo who goes in the bathroom...

Then it goes to a scene where Meadow finally parks and starts running into the diner...

The door is about to open, Tony looks up...

and No Chimes...

No Music...

Everything just goes black...

In one of the early episodes of the Sopranos, Tonys is talking with Bobby about what it must feel like to die.

Bobby says, 'at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black!'

This idea was revisited in the second to last episode during the
last seconds of it, when Tony is about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and Bobby on the boat... 'You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black'

So in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when Meadow came in, someone killed Tony.

This is the reason you didn't hear or see sh!t when he died.... it was from his perspective... and everything went black, then the credits.

bada bing
michellecarin Posted:

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oh my god

betiboop7 Posted:

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how did you remember all that...

Snickers76 Posted:

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This explanation has been making its way over the internet, but I don't buy it.

There are a couple of other threads where I explained why. But in addition, The Sopranos was never written exclusively from Tony's perspective. It's an omniscient perspective for the most part as was the last episode.

David Chase has said that the final episode is for his fans to interpret in whatever way they want to.
bemyyoko Posted:

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Posted by Snickers76

This explanation has been making its way over the internet, but I don't buy it.

There are a couple of other threads where I explained why. But in addition, The Sopranos was never written exclusively from Tony's perspective. It's an omniscient perspective for the most part as was the last episode.

David Chase has said that the final episode is for his fans to interpret in whatever way they want to.



Yup. David Chase also said that he's never been a fan of tying up loose ends.

Oh, and, I could have sworn there were chimes when Meadow came in... they keep reshowing it on all the entertainment shows i'll have to look again.

*i have never seen a single episode of the Sopranos
MJDoc12 Posted:

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don't believe it--its been 2 days and already all this urban myth crap has been hitting the net big time. sooooooo many sites have said this, but its untrue, this is an article from MSNBC:

DISSECTING 'SOPRANOS' FINAL SCENE: QUESTIONS ABOUND
Posted: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:49 PM by Gael Fashingbauer Cooper
Categories: TV

The comments on my first 'Sopranos' finale post are just getting too long to wade through, so let's start a new post. And let's delve more into the scene that everyone's talking about, the final scene at Holsten's, the characters who populated the diner, and the Journey song that ended the show.

The Nikki Leotardo question
People have been posting all over the Web that the guy in the diner who disappeared into the men's room was credited as Nikki Leotardo, the nephew of Phil, claiming that the same actor has appeared as Nikki before. But is that true? This Philadelphia newspaper article interviewed Paoli Colandrea, the Italian pizzeria owner who played that character, who says he was just dubbed 'Mystery Man,' and that he has NOT been on the show (or any show) before. In this feature, the man claims to know what happens after the episode ends, leading some credence to the idea that he may have had ulterior motives. When I rewatched the credits, I saw Colandrea credited only as'Man in Members Only Jacket.' I watched the credits twice and never saw a mention of 'Nikki Leotardo.'

The New York Times was one of the ones spreading this rumor, and one of their commenters claims that the guy in the Members Only Jacket was Nikki Leotardo, despite what his credit said. How they can know this, when according to the Philly article above, Colandrea was never on the show before, I have no real idea.

'Members Only' is also the name of the Sopranos episode where Uncle Junior shoots Tony.

The other extras in the diner
What about the other suspicious people in the diner? Or were they only suspicious to those who knew this was the series' final scene? A post reproduced in this Deadspin entry claims that the Cub Scouts seen in the diner were the same little boys in the model-train store when Bobby was shot last week. (Shouldn't those kids still be in 24-hour therapy, after what they saw?) It also claims that 'trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body.' It goes on to claim that the two African-American men who walk in to the diner tried to kill Tony in an earlier episode, 'but only clipped him in the ear.'

But at least one commenter has pointed out that one of those men was killed in his original episode. And the NY Times article I reference above says that HBO is denying that any of the characters in that final scene, Cub Scouts, truckers, African-American guys, whatever, were EVER on the show before.

ant n tilde Posted:

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Melissa - thank you SO MUCH for posting that

LOL i have been posting similar things - but i feel so repetitive so i gave up!
lb9977 Posted:

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Thanks for posting this...
I heard the theory of everything fades to black and I could believe that but I just don't want to...
I can interpret it as I want and I want to just think that's how paranoid Tony is and he was just enjoying dinner with his family. A normal act for this non normal man.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still pissed at how it ended, especially since I was blaming FH for doing something wrong when the screen went blank...
dream426 Posted:

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Posted by lb9977

Thanks for posting this...
I heard the theory of everything fades to black and I could believe that but I just don't want to...
I can interpret it as I want and I want to just think that's how paranoid Tony is and he was just enjoying dinner with his family. A normal act for this non normal man.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still pissed at how it ended, especially since I was blaming FH for doing something wrong when the screen went blank...



HAHA I did the same thing. I yelled at FH because I thought he sat on the remote.
Snowflake08 Posted:

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chase said it himself, the ending is what YOU want it to be

Soon2BeMrsFitzy Posted:

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I cant wait to get the DVD so I can see the 2 alternate endings

Jesses Girl Posted:

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David Chase did an interview...and it debunks all of that. im back to being confused
LuckyMe Posted:

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Very cool explanation!

CJ32 Posted:

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I hope there is more to it than a 'choose your own ending'-- i really feel that would be a creative writing cop-out. To spend so many years cultivating these characters and creating one of the best shows in history, having no answers to the grand finale doesn't make sense

nmagel Posted:

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I like this theory the best, accept the trucker guy was not Nicky Leotardo.

nmagel Posted:

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Posted by Soon2BeMrsFitzy

I cant wait to get the DVD so I can see the 2 alternate endings



I heard that no alternate ending will be included on the DVD coming out in October.
nmagel Posted:

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Posted by Snickers76

This explanation has been making its way over the internet, but I don't buy it.

There are a couple of other threads where I explained why. But in addition, The Sopranos was never written exclusively from Tony's perspective. It's an omniscient perspective for the most part as was the last episode.

David Chase has said that the final episode is for his fans to interpret in whatever way they want to.



The song on the jukebox under 'Don't Stop Believin' was 'Any Way You Want It'

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