I get so confused by this show. I finally realized after talking to a co-worker that in last night's episode the little boy & girl were Justin & his sister. I like it alot, but there are too many confusing things about it. Does anybody else watch this show?
Lisa Rose
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I think Justin used his powers to convince the Doc that he should be released.
If you read the notes carefully, the doc was saying that he (justine) is insane and needs more treatment but the next thing...he is being released.
and what is up with that radio show??? that confused me!!
jenny11.9
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OH!!!! Thanks Lisa - I get it now. Right - that makes sense. And he just did that to that guy just for the heck of it? Or was it to tune out his sister on the radio? I mean - he HEARD his sister right?
I hope he doesn't go try to kill her or something weird. What do you think his relationship is to Scudder?
groovypeg
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this show is very interesting to say the least. i think the ring is going to play into the story-if you notice the insignia, it looks like somethig from the 'knights of templar' and if any of you have read the davinci code- you know what this means! samson had the same insignia thing from bens' father- scudder. i also think ruthie (snake woman) had an affair with scudder and gabriel is ben's half bro. it looks like sophie's powers are getting stronger?
groovypeg
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WOW!!! what an episode! i cant believe there are only 2 left!!! this episode was by far the best, imho!
Jess2
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I thought it was ok, my FH didn't really watch it & saw me watching it. Every time he walked into the room it was when the mother (I forget all names here) & the guy were doing it, & when the snake lady & ben were doing it. He was like 'more strange sex! What is up with this show?'
I now definately think Sophie is Ben's half brother, not so sure about the snake lady's son, but you never know, this show DOES confuse the heck out of me!
Lunatrek
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I think that Justin's return is pure evil. Did you notice that his clergy collar is BLACK, and not white, as it used to be?
I dont think there's anything more to Ben & Ruthie besides physical, I don't think Ruthie was ever with Scudder, but it was obvious in the previous episode that Scudder raped comatose lady (Sofie's mom). And YES, she is the scariest thing I've ever seen!! ugh!!
What do you think will finally happen with Rita Sue and Jonesy? I don't like them together.
Jess2
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Rita Sue, that's her name, I gotta remember that. I think that Sophie next week is going to find out that they are having an affair (it looked that way from the previews) but i actually think that won't go anywhere, it will just make it more complicated for Jonsey & Sophie to get together. That's a good point about the collar, he freaks me out also, especially when the priest did the cross on his head. It''ll be interesting to see how Rita Sue interacts with the new coche girl.
wacky
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Ok from what I got watching it last night
Ben is neither bad or good he is lost and his dreams represent the devil who wants him
Management is the devil and Scudder is actually good.
Sampson said that there was a major fight with scudder and management years back.
Scudder was probably married to the lady who doesnt speak. I think management raped her then Scudder vanished and met up with Bens real mother. Making Ben and Sophie step bro and sister.
And that guy said to Sophie about Prophets are welcome, trying to figure that out
Jess2
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Whoa....that's interesting Wacky, I never thought of ANY of that. Again, WHAT IS UP WITH THIS SHOW? How did you think of all that?
Lunatrek
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Wow, that really is an awesome interpretation, wacky!! I bet you're right!!!
wacky
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Thank you ladies, Im probably wrong, as usuall. But last night there were a lot of interesting things.
Did yiou notice the guy in Bens dreams was in that wall painting, in that Baptist Organization thing.
Mandy77
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Here's what I think:
Scudder is Ben & Sophie's father and he is a demon
Brother Justin I thought at first was bad but now I really do think he is good and would be the only one who has the power to defeat Scudder. What is happening now in his church is reflective of the beginning of the Born Again Christians.
I just can't figure out where management fits into all of this...maybe the devil.
Crisco718
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I am totally lost, but I tune in every week. Hopefully I will figure it out by the last episode.
wacky
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Management is the devil, I agree
Maybe Scudder was a fallen angel
groovypeg
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wacky i think you are right on with your interpretation! i cant wait until next week!!!!
jenny11.9
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i like the idea of management raping the coma lady - appy...is that her name?
and that prophet thing the guy said to sophie.....that is what was said in the diner that day in the dreams of both ben and brother justin.
I just don't get how brother justin and ben tie in together....i mean- that has to be the crux of the show right?!?!? i think iris is the evil one to be honest - she is starting to scare the day out of me.
Jess2
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Wow, what did you think of last night's episode! Holy crap, it scared me! But it was really good! Ok, so LOTS of interesting questions & here's what I'm starting to think:
1) Justin is definately evil & there's the incestous relationship with his sister who sacrificed the children for him
2) Ben is good & I'm starting to think that Wacky was right in that maybe they are all dead & in hell & maybe Ben is actually good which is why management is so interested in him (that is why the Mexican children cried for his loss & the lady gave him bread?) (Wacky, you rock! )
3)Sophie is having a premenition of her lesbian affair with the other chick (forgot her name)
What else?
BMD'sPeanut
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maybe sophie was reading libby's thoughts...maybe libby was dreaming of an affair. but what was up with the stigmata then? i don't think justin and iris are involved in any incestuous relationship.
Jess2
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So what about that kiss! Was it really just a way of him conveying his disdain for what she did, or was he happy that she sacrificed the children for him? See, I'm so confused by this show!
BMD'sPeanut
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i know. it makes my head spin. but it's quite addictive. when he kissed her i was like: 'HELLO-WTF?!') who knows? hopefully it will all come together in the end.
