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Carnivale - what is up with this show?

Original post by Jess2

I get so confused by this show. I finally realized after talking to a co-worker that in last night's episode the little boy & girl were Justin & his sister. I like it alot, but there are too many confusing things about it. Does anybody else watch this show?

neesiepie Posted:

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found this on another site:

VERY important clue was dropped tonight that ties a lot of things together, something that may have been lost in all the excitement, but not if you were paying attention.

Just before Ben burst in and 'Management' betrayed Lodz to him as Ruthie's killer, 'Management' promised Lodz a reward for his great service: obviously, his sight, which is why Lodz's eyes were clear of the cataracts when Ben confronted him. This identified him as Ruthie's murderer, her death ordered not on a whim of the professor's, but by Management. Maybe Ben will figure that out, or maybe not.

But here's the kicker: as Lodz was turning to leave 'Management's' wagon, he said something to the effect of 'It is an honor to serve you, my Prince.' My Prince. The old country, where something terrible happened. Justin and Iris as children, fleeing unknown assailants. We have been assuming that the children were Russian. But what if they were Romanian?

Put these variables together, and what's that spell? Couldn't 'my Prince' be a reference to Prince Vlad the Impaler, the real life figure that Bram Stoker re-imagined as Dracula?

Yeah, I thought that maybe I'd been smoking something without knowing it, too...but then I did a web search about Prince Vlad and the Knights Templar. And what do ya know...there IS a theory that there may have been a historical connection between them.
Jess2 Posted:

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Wow...ok! That'a an interesting theory!

I agree there is definately a connection via the old country between Management, Scudder, & maybe Justin's father? Remember the dream that Ben & Justin had, where Scudder was clicking glasses with a man in an army suit at a diner or something while Ben & Justin were at the counter? Could the guy in the army suit be Justin's father? So many questions!
wacky Posted:

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Neessie, someone did their homework

Excellent. I like that theory.
KarenK122 Posted:

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I only saw the last 20 minutes so tonight when i watch the rest i can give more theories : ).....but when Ben killed Lotz he brought the snake lady back to life. Ben can't heal without killing.

neesiepie Posted:

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You know, HBO really didn't give us all that much to go on.....hopefully they will have a season 2 and we'll get more answers and of course, some more questions.

BriarRose Posted:

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Is Ben is an avatar of the knights of templar to protect against the Anti-Christ aka Brother Justin? It's a theory in progress.

but I am unable to figure out what roles Appy, Sophie, Management and Lodz play in all that
Lunatrek Posted:

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I was just totally bewildered by this show, and a bit disappointed. I had hoped my questions would have been answered, but they weren't. I don't mind if some things are left up to suspicion, but there were just too many for this show!! What did Appolonia tell Lodz? Is that why she burned up herself and Sofie? Did they all die on the fire? Who was the man with the tree tattoo? Why did Justin kiss Iris, and now what are they up to? And what about the Fraternal Brotherhood thingie that seemed so important? I guess there will be a next season! Not sure if I will tune in, though, not if there will be this much confusion!!!
groovypeg Posted:

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my theory is that sofie has powers just like lodz, ben, scudder and managment. maybe appollonia realized this and decided that she didnt want sofie to be a part of this. or....

perhaps lodz is sofies dad. he did say to appy in the trailer something like 'how long have you known, this is madness, she's the one?!' or....

too many unanswered questions!!!!

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