I think this is the biggest argument between FH and I right now. No one in my family is really religious except for my 2 grandmas. In his family, they are no that religious either but some will receive communion. I barely go to church and FH goes every Sunday. I really do not want a full mass because I feel like I will be too uncomfortable. This is something he really wants. I don't know what to do!
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I cannot believe this topic is still going on.
i have been on this board for about 75 years and seriously this HAS to be at LEAST the 15th time this debate has raged on and surprisingly. . .no resolution yet
there is an easy resolution, that you do what makes you happy and others dowhat makes them happy, ill do what makes me happy and we'll accept that others do have different views and we dont all have to do the same thing or agree. Whats right for one person is not right for another...but this would be a crazy concept lol
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WOW i just read most of the thread now, didnt realize i posted in such a controversial thread
so i wonder, am i wrong for being a non-catholic and getting married in a catholic church? is that viewed as doing the wrong thing?
Not in my opinion, not that that counts for anything! But seriously, no.
it does count lol...just wondering because i saw posts about if you're not religious you shouldnt get married in the catholic church and so on. I will be the first to admit that i have some issues with organized religion, alot of it stems with how the church began and what it was based upon...i also dont see why so many people let religion divide us, i mean last i checked we were all created by the same god so the need for different religions i dont get then lol. Plus i believe that what matters is having a belief in something and having faith in god not necessarily having to follow a specific religion. I know people who go to church all the time and are so religious but all i think is how hypocritical they are, they are such judgemental and hateful people which i dont understand. I mean its said that were all sinners and yes the church acknowledges so if the church acknowledges this and is understanding of this then why arent other religious people? im thinking of specific people in my life and not anyone on the boards since i dont know people personally to judge for myself.
Also doesn't it say in the bible that only god can judge us, and isn't also a sin to act godlike so by judging isn't that what people are doing?
this is my favorite response...I'm with you!!
why thank you lol, im usually met with arguements when i make such statements hahaha
Yea I was waiting for the one on her soapbaox to respond to you Espo, she has a pretty strong opinion about non practicing catholics getting married in a church
oh this wasnt towards just her but anybody who felt that way, i have nothing against her personally...i saw a couple of ppl who felt that if youre not religious you shouldn't get married in the church...and btw im not catholic
Yea didn't mean to say you were catholic....oopsie I worded it wrong ..lol...but yea I agree with your last post, to each their own and as long as they're happy then who cares...
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
lol true youre doing the christian orthodox thing
dont worry its not THAT bad, its not like you just stand there lol, you'll walk around the table 3x, then backwards or something like that lol, the crowns will go back and forth on your heads and a bunch of other things they do lol, its all very symbolic and nice.
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
lol true youre doing the christian orthodox thing
dont worry its not THAT bad, its not like you just stand there lol, you'll walk around the table 3x, then backwards or something like that lol, the crowns will go back and forth on your heads and a bunch of other things they do lol, its all very symbolic and nice.
I wonder if im recognized in the catholic church and vice versa...for yourself.
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
lol true youre doing the christian orthodox thing
dont worry its not THAT bad, its not like you just stand there lol, you'll walk around the table 3x, then backwards or something like that lol, the crowns will go back and forth on your heads and a bunch of other things they do lol, its all very symbolic and nice.
I wonder if im recognized in the catholic church and vice versa...for yourself.
hmmm good question, theyre both still part of christianity so maybe
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I cannot believe this topic is still going on.
i have been on this board for about 75 years and seriously this HAS to be at LEAST the 15th time this debate has raged on and surprisingly. . .no resolution yet
there is an easy resolution, that you do what makes you happy and others dowhat makes them happy, ill do what makes me happy and we'll accept that others do have different views and we dont all have to do the same thing or agree. Whats right for one person is not right for another...but this would be a crazy concept lol
nope you are wrong.
and of course
i am right.
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I cannot believe this topic is still going on.
i have been on this board for about 75 years and seriously this HAS to be at LEAST the 15th time this debate has raged on and surprisingly. . .no resolution yet
So are you implying there will be no solution? Do you think this also means that there will never be peace in the middle east and we'll never figure out of the chicken or egg came first!?!?!
i knew i should have told you to sit down before i imparted my wisdom!
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Posted by Mimacat
I cannot believe this topic is still going on.
i have been on this board for about 75 years and seriously this HAS to be at LEAST the 15th time this debate has raged on and surprisingly. . .no resolution yet
there is an easy resolution, that you do what makes you happy and others dowhat makes them happy, ill do what makes me happy and we'll accept that others do have different views and we dont all have to do the same thing or agree. Whats right for one person is not right for another...but this would be a crazy concept lol
nope you are wrong.
and of course
i am right.
thank you for setting me straight at least now i know the truth lol
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
lol true youre doing the christian orthodox thing
dont worry its not THAT bad, its not like you just stand there lol, you'll walk around the table 3x, then backwards or something like that lol, the crowns will go back and forth on your heads and a bunch of other things they do lol, its all very symbolic and nice.
I wonder if im recognized in the catholic church and vice versa...for yourself.
hmmm good question, theyre both still part of christianity so maybe
I could be wrong on this so don't quote me BUT it is my understanding that Orthodox does make you accepted in the Catholic Church because it is a stricter form of the Catholic Religion. I know it is this way for Greek Orthodox which from the sounds of it seems like a similar wedding ceremony (which I happen to love even though i can't understand a word they are saying!)
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there is an easy resolution, that you do what makes you happy and others dowhat makes them happy, ill do what makes me happy and we'll accept that others do have different views and we dont all have to do the same thing or agree. Whats right for one person is not right for another...but this would be a crazy concept lol
Now that is a foreign concept
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
lol true youre doing the christian orthodox thing
dont worry its not THAT bad, its not like you just stand there lol, you'll walk around the table 3x, then backwards or something like that lol, the crowns will go back and forth on your heads and a bunch of other things they do lol, its all very symbolic and nice.
I wonder if im recognized in the catholic church and vice versa...for yourself.
hmmm good question, theyre both still part of christianity so maybe
I could be wrong on this so don't quote me BUT it is my understanding that Orthodox does make you accepted in the Catholic Church because it is a stricter form of the Catholic Religion. I know it is this way for Greek Orthodox which from the sounds of it seems like a similar wedding ceremony (which I happen to love even though i can't understand a word they are saying!)
greek orthodox is christian orthodox, its funny bc everyone just calls is greek orthodox although they have the 3rd largest following, russians being the biggest group of christian orthodox.
Its similar in a way but theres alot more that goes on, like i mentioned earlier you have to walk around a table 3x, then in the opposite direction, both have to wear crowns on their heads, theres a bunch of symbolic things that do go on.
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
lol true youre doing the christian orthodox thing
dont worry its not THAT bad, its not like you just stand there lol, you'll walk around the table 3x, then backwards or something like that lol, the crowns will go back and forth on your heads and a bunch of other things they do lol, its all very symbolic and nice.
I wonder if im recognized in the catholic church and vice versa...for yourself.
hmmm good question, theyre both still part of christianity so maybe
I could be wrong on this so don't quote me BUT it is my understanding that Orthodox does make you accepted in the Catholic Church because it is a stricter form of the Catholic Religion. I know it is this way for Greek Orthodox which from the sounds of it seems like a similar wedding ceremony (which I happen to love even though i can't understand a word they are saying!)
It does. because they accepted me., and I jut read somewhere that they do see each other as valid if married in either or, but i will confirm with the priest!
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greek orthodox is christian orthodox, its funny bc everyone just calls is greek orthodox although they have the 3rd largest following, russians being the biggest group of christian orthodox.
Its similar in a way but theres alot more that goes on, like i mentioned earlier you have to walk around a table 3x, then in the opposite direction, both have to wear crowns on their heads, theres a bunch of symbolic things that do go on.
Yea and they have no vows.,
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here is info about christian orthodox wedding ceremonies. Plus i didnt copy the crown parts but it symbolizes a kingdom they will build together
The Greek Orthodox wedding Ceremony consists of two parts: The Betrothal and the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony. It is a Christian ceremony.
The Betrothal Service In the Betrothal service, the Priest blesses the rings of the Bride and Groom, then places them on their right hands. The sponsor then exchanges the rings between them three times signifying that their lives are entwined forever.
In the Bible, the right hand is the preferred hand, indicating good. The Betrothal dramatizes the free decision made by the Bride and Groom, and is symbolized by the giving of rings.
This service begins at the door of the church and is completed before the altar. The Bride, Groom, and their attendants gather at the vestibule of the church. The Priest comes to meet them. The Bride and Groom stand before the Priest, the Groom to the right of the Bride. He asks them if they come of their own free will, and if they have not promised themselves to someone else. The Priest then invites the Bride and Groom, and the attendants, to enter the church and stand before the altar.
The rings are blessed and placed on the fourth finger of the right hand of the Groom and the Bride. The Priest then places a portion of his vestment over their crossed hands and they recite the marriage vows.
The Marriage Ceremony The Marriage Ceremony begins immediately thereafter culminating in the crowning. It begins with the Priest giving the Bride and Groom lighted candles which they hold throughout the service. The candles can be plain or very ornate, and indicate that Christ, the Light of the World, will light the way of their new life together.
Following a series of petitions and prayers with special reference to well known couples of the Old Testament, such as Abraham and Sarah, the Priest will join the right hands of the couple. This is an ancient symbol of marriage in which the Priest prays for God to 'unite your servants, and crown them in one flesh...'
The Priest then holds the stephana ,or wedding crowns, joined by a ribbon, and makes the sign of the cross with them three times over the Bride and Groom. The crown is kissed by the Groom before it is placed. The same happens with the Bride. The Priest removes the crown from the Groom first, then offers words and the Groom kisses the crown. The same is done with the Bride.
An epistle excerpt of Saint Paul is read, exhorting husband and wife to unconditional love and support of one another. This is followed by an excerpt from the Gospel of Saint John relating to the wedding at Cana when Christ performed the first of His miracles and blessed the institution of marriage.
The couple drinks wine from a common cup. It signifies that they will be sharing the happiness and sorrows of life together. In a Greek tradition, bread is dipped into the wine and then given to the Bride and Groom.
The Priest will then lead the couple around the wedding table or altar table three times. He holds the Bible in his hand, reminds the Bride and Groom that the Word of God should lead them through life. The circle represents eternal marriage, for a circle has neither a beginning or and end.
The ceremony ends with a benediction and prayer. The Priest uses the Bible to uncouple the hands of the Bride and Groom signifying that only god can come between them.
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I have never seen an orthodox ceremony. Sounds beautiful.
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im excited...yet nervous
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wow, apparently this got even worse after i went to bed. I seriously don't understand why you girls are now saying I 'ATTACKED' your beliefs. some people stated their opinion, I stated mine...people didn't agree ...soooooooo now I'm an ignorant judgemental hypocritical bible toting attacker of beliefs? talk about blowing things out of proportion.
I'm not even gonna repeat or try to make anyone understand because its obvious many of you just won't get it and thats fine. I personally don't care what any of you believe me to be...those are my beliefs and I think its wrong that you feel its ok to post your beliefs but when I post mine I'm attacking. I did reference what some people said but it wasn't in an attacking manner...it was just to say I don't get it...but do I have to? It's not MY wedding. I was just trying to make conversation and see where everyone was coming from...including the people who didn't agree with me or were flat out trying to be rude.
I also didn't appreciate that people put words in my mouth...I never JUDGED anyone...I stated my beliefs...you might believe that my ceremony full mass is a load of crap...ur not judging me ur stating ur belief or opinion.
point is...nobody on this board, knows me or knows what I stand for exactly so don't be rude, snotty, snide or snippy with me just because you don't agree with me...because THAT IS attacking and I refuse to take people being rude to me. disagree all you like, but get snotty with me and it becomes personal. I enjoy being on these boards and this is my favorite place to be, especially after a long day at work. I enjoy sharing ideas with you ladies and would like to continue doing so without the drama.
and the soapbox comment was a joke...I never meant to 'preach' to anyone. However, I'll get BACK ON my soapbox...whenever I feel like it, thankyouverymuch!
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it is real nice, reading that makes me think ahhh maybe i should've done that lol.
here lisa is a little traditional thing brides do
Brides in Greece believe a lump of sugar tucked into one of their wedding gloves will bring sweetness all their married lives.
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Denise if its wrong for you then its wrong for me... we are the reversed.
and- by the way....i heard about the 1 1/2 hour long short version
p.s. if i was getting married in a catholic church then Yes i would do it., for personal reasons.
lol true youre doing the christian orthodox thing
dont worry its not THAT bad, its not like you just stand there lol, you'll walk around the table 3x, then backwards or something like that lol, the crowns will go back and forth on your heads and a bunch of other things they do lol, its all very symbolic and nice.
I wonder if im recognized in the catholic church and vice versa...for yourself.
hmmm good question, theyre both still part of christianity so maybe
I could be wrong on this so don't quote me BUT it is my understanding that Orthodox does make you accepted in the Catholic Church because it is a stricter form of the Catholic Religion. I know it is this way for Greek Orthodox which from the sounds of it seems like a similar wedding ceremony (which I happen to love even though i can't understand a word they are saying!)
greek orthodox is christian orthodox, its funny bc everyone just calls is greek orthodox although they have the 3rd largest following, russians being the biggest group of christian orthodox.
Its similar in a way but theres alot more that goes on, like i mentioned earlier you have to walk around a table 3x, then in the opposite direction, both have to wear crowns on their heads, theres a bunch of symbolic things that do go on.
Shows you how much I know ... didn't realize it was the same thing! I don't know why but I love the crown part. There is just something about it.
