bbb is a great idea!!! I guess if you see that someone used a vendor you are considering - it is best you FM them!!
hannahshim
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I never noticed that! that is pretty bad
MJDoc12
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It's sad but true. It's all about $$$$$$$$$
The vendors pay to advertise on the site, big time conflict of interest, but reality. LIW needs to protect it's source of income.....
Exactly if im a vendor and i want to advertise i am not going to advertise on a website that posts bad news about my company - even if its true...
Without vendors LIW cannot operate.
i agree with this to a point -- but its very one sided if any single time any type of negativity is pulled because a vendor doesn't want brides to hear about it.
yes they pay for the site---but i can not tell you how many times brides post after their weddings saying 'i felt disappointed with this vendor after my wedding--and i had read so many glowing things about them' a lot of times its because posts are pulled....and then you don't get the whole story.
and yes ppl should chk with the bbb -- but not every single person goes to bbb for an issue with a vendor. if the issue is something like 'i felt their customer service was lacking because of ....x y z' or 'on the big day they had made some mistakes and didn't put the right flowers here and there...make sure if you deal with so - and -so that you keep on that' why shouldn't those types of posts stay around as a 'heads up' to others? those are the types of posts i am talking about.
ETA: btw--i do remember a post that was pulled about a certain limo company after a bride used them and gave a detailed and honest review about them as a warning. she didn't bash them---she gave facts about how they left guests behind at her wedding instead of taking them back to the hotel as per their agreement, and other information. guess what? that got pulled because the vendor told LIW to pull it.. you know what? a few months later that company was featured on 7 on your Side on Eyewitness News, had MULTIPLE complaints...and was even fined and had one of their limos confiscated.
melisjoe
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i agree!!!! i believe LIW is doing the brides a diservice! if the post about a vendor is not all sunshine and roses it disappears!!
LeeLee111
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That is horrible, a lot of us rely on each others experiences so we dont end up dealing with a bad vendor.
Mizzdimple
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Posted by Mizzdimple
Posted by hb123
It's sad but true. It's all about $$$$$$$$$
The vendors pay to advertise on the site, big time conflict of interest, but reality. LIW needs to protect it's source of income.....
Exactly if im a vendor and i want to advertise i am not going to advertise on a website that posts bad news about my company - even if its true...
Without vendors LIW cannot operate.
i agree with this to a point -- but its very one sided if any single time any type of negativity is pulled because a vendor doesn't want brides to hear about it.
yes they pay for the site---but i can not tell you how many times brides post after their weddings saying 'i felt disappointed with this vendor after my wedding--and i had read so many glowing things about them' a lot of times its because posts are pulled....and then you don't get the whole story.
and yes ppl should chk with the bbb -- but not every single person goes to bbb for an issue with a vendor. if the issue is something like 'i felt their customer service was lacking because of ....x y z' or 'on the big day they had made some mistakes and didn't put the right flowers here and there...make sure if you deal with so - and -so that you keep on that' why shouldn't those types of posts stay around as a 'heads up' to others? those are the types of posts i am talking about.
ETA: btw--i do remember a post that was pulled about a certain limo company after a bride used them and gave a detailed and honest review about them as a warning. she didn't bash them---she gave facts about how they left guests behind at her wedding instead of taking them back to the hotel as per their agreement, and other information. guess what? that got pulled because the vendor told LIW to pull it.. you know what? a few months later that company was featured on 7 on your Side on Eyewitness News, had MULTIPLE complaints...and was even fined and had one of their limos confiscated.
Damn i just replied to this and lost everything.. but ill make it short...
it really stems down to the business mentality of the website., Ron and Liz surely did not create this website to make our weddings FABULOUS but to make a living/career., and we just happen to Utilize the website in our favor., and honestly what can they do leave negative news about a Limo company and expect that Limo company to advertise on here again? Noperrs
I do understand...why would they have that vendor here if they have negative news against them- well....what if a bride posts somethign negative..we dont know what happened., who knows if the post is from a true bride., who knows if she is extra sensitive and the vendor was GREAT on her wedding day and her FLOWERS were wonderful, but she just didnt like them.....theres alot to factor in , especially when dealing with Brides....
Leaving negative news on a vendor Publicly could destroy their business., and may be false. So when in doubt-- DELETE IT OUT!
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i agree!!!! i believe LIW is doing the brides a diservice! if the post about a vendor is not all sunshine and roses it disappears!!
I agree that it would be nice to know the truth...unfortunately without the vendors who pay to advertise there would be no LIW...we dont pay to sign up, its free so the only way they make their money is through advertisement. If vendors who advertise with LIW are unhappy with what is being said and they call to tell them to take it down and its not done then they will simply take their money elsewhere and not advertise on here anymore. So its kind of like a double edged sword
Mizzdimple
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Posted by melisjoe
i agree!!!! i believe LIW is doing the brides a diservice! if the post about a vendor is not all sunshine and roses it disappears!!
I agree that it would be nice to know the truth...unfortunately without the vendors who post to advertise there would be no LIW...we dont pay to sign up, its free so the only way they make their money is through advertisement. If vendors who advertise with LIW are unhappy with what is being said and they call to tell them to take it down and its not done then they will simply take their money elsewhere and not advertise on here anymore. So its kind of like a double edged sword
I like that 'We dont pay to sign up' Thats a good idea though..well not for us...lol
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Posted by Espo22
Posted by melisjoe
i agree!!!! i believe LIW is doing the brides a diservice! if the post about a vendor is not all sunshine and roses it disappears!!
I agree that it would be nice to know the truth...unfortunately without the vendors who post to advertise there would be no LIW...we dont pay to sign up, its free so the only way they make their money is through advertisement. If vendors who advertise with LIW are unhappy with what is being said and they call to tell them to take it down and its not done then they will simply take their money elsewhere and not advertise on here anymore. So its kind of like a double edged sword
unfortunately that is soo true.. it really is about business when it comes down to it.. for us brides we really do want the truth but i guess the only way is to start talking privately to each other about vendor rants.
hb123
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Posted by MJDoc12
Posted by Mizzdimple
Posted by hb123
It's sad but true. It's all about $$$$$$$$$
The vendors pay to advertise on the site, big time conflict of interest, but reality. LIW needs to protect it's source of income.....
Exactly if im a vendor and i want to advertise i am not going to advertise on a website that posts bad news about my company - even if its true...
Without vendors LIW cannot operate.
i agree with this to a point -- but its very one sided if any single time any type of negativity is pulled because a vendor doesn't want brides to hear about it.
yes they pay for the site---but i can not tell you how many times brides post after their weddings saying 'i felt disappointed with this vendor after my wedding--and i had read so many glowing things about them' a lot of times its because posts are pulled....and then you don't get the whole story.
and yes ppl should chk with the bbb -- but not every single person goes to bbb for an issue with a vendor. if the issue is something like 'i felt their customer service was lacking because of ....x y z' or 'on the big day they had made some mistakes and didn't put the right flowers here and there...make sure if you deal with so - and -so that you keep on that' why shouldn't those types of posts stay around as a 'heads up' to others? those are the types of posts i am talking about.
ETA: btw--i do remember a post that was pulled about a certain limo company after a bride used them and gave a detailed and honest review about them as a warning. she didn't bash them---she gave facts about how they left guests behind at her wedding instead of taking them back to the hotel as per their agreement, and other information. guess what? that got pulled because the vendor told LIW to pull it.. you know what? a few months later that company was featured on 7 on your Side on Eyewitness News, had MULTIPLE complaints...and was even fined and had one of their limos confiscated.
I completely agree with you, LIW is doing a disservice to their users by not allowing negative posts. At the end of the day, they need to determine where their best interests lie, with the user or the vendor. If the posts are too one sided in favor of the vendors, they will lose credibility with the very users their service is meant to assist.
Honestly, I would be very concerned about a vendor who was so sensitive to negative feedback that they would request censorship. It makes me question their commitment to their product. Negative feedback is the best way to improve your services, if you don't get any, how would you know what you are doing wrong!?! But I guess that's just me!
MJDoc12
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unfortunately that is soo true.. it really is about business when it comes down to it.. for us brides we really do want the truth but i guess the only way is to start talking privately to each other about vendor rants.
but what happens when vendors tells LIW that they don't want ppl even FMing about their experience??? i know this has happened....and ppl have received 'warnings' for FMing!
DeannaNDave07
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unfortunately that is soo true.. it really is about business when it comes down to it.. for us brides we really do want the truth but i guess the only way is to start talking privately to each other about vendor rants.
but what happens when vendors tells LIW that they don't want ppl even FMing about their experience??? i know this has happened....and ppl have received 'warnings' for FMing!
WHAT!! OMG really?? i had no idea!! so you cant even FM girls and have a private convo or advice, or whatever the case may be??
MJDoc12
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Posted by MJDoc12
Posted by DeannaNDave07
unfortunately that is soo true.. it really is about business when it comes down to it.. for us brides we really do want the truth but i guess the only way is to start talking privately to each other about vendor rants.
but what happens when vendors tells LIW that they don't want ppl even FMing about their experience??? i know this has happened....and ppl have received 'warnings' for FMing!
WHAT!! OMG really?? i had no idea!! so you cant even FM girls and have a private convo or advice, or whatever the case may be??
it has happened---its rare---but i do know that it has occurred that someone received a 'warning' not to FM others abuot their experience with a vendor. its just crazy!!!
Espo22
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Posted by hb123
Posted by MJDoc12
Posted by Mizzdimple
Posted by hb123
It's sad but true. It's all about $$$$$$$$$
The vendors pay to advertise on the site, big time conflict of interest, but reality. LIW needs to protect it's source of income.....
Exactly if im a vendor and i want to advertise i am not going to advertise on a website that posts bad news about my company - even if its true...
Without vendors LIW cannot operate.
i agree with this to a point -- but its very one sided if any single time any type of negativity is pulled because a vendor doesn't want brides to hear about it.
yes they pay for the site---but i can not tell you how many times brides post after their weddings saying 'i felt disappointed with this vendor after my wedding--and i had read so many glowing things about them' a lot of times its because posts are pulled....and then you don't get the whole story.
and yes ppl should chk with the bbb -- but not every single person goes to bbb for an issue with a vendor. if the issue is something like 'i felt their customer service was lacking because of ....x y z' or 'on the big day they had made some mistakes and didn't put the right flowers here and there...make sure if you deal with so - and -so that you keep on that' why shouldn't those types of posts stay around as a 'heads up' to others? those are the types of posts i am talking about.
ETA: btw--i do remember a post that was pulled about a certain limo company after a bride used them and gave a detailed and honest review about them as a warning. she didn't bash them---she gave facts about how they left guests behind at her wedding instead of taking them back to the hotel as per their agreement, and other information. guess what? that got pulled because the vendor told LIW to pull it.. you know what? a few months later that company was featured on 7 on your Side on Eyewitness News, had MULTIPLE complaints...and was even fined and had one of their limos confiscated.
I completely agree with you, LIW is doing a disservice to their users by not allowing negative posts. At the end of the day, they need to determine where their best interests lie, with the user or the vendor. If the posts are too one sided in favor of the vendors, they will lose credibility with the very users their service is meant to assist.
Honestly, I would be very concerned about a vendor who was so sensitive to negative feedback that they would request censorship. It makes me question their commitment to their product. Negative feedback is the best way to improve your services, if you don't get any, how would you know what you are doing wrong!?! But I guess that's just me!
without the vendors there would be no 'US' if they decide to side with us and abandon their vendors then how would they pay to keep this site? well they could charge us thats how, but im sure alot of ppl wouldn't like that. LIW doesnt do events and keep this running for free, it costs money and the only way they make their money is through advertisement
DeannaNDave07
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Posted by MJDoc12
Posted by DeannaNDave07
unfortunately that is soo true.. it really is about business when it comes down to it.. for us brides we really do want the truth but i guess the only way is to start talking privately to each other about vendor rants.
but what happens when vendors tells LIW that they don't want ppl even FMing about their experience??? i know this has happened....and ppl have received 'warnings' for FMing!
WHAT!! OMG really?? i had no idea!! so you cant even FM girls and have a private convo or advice, or whatever the case may be??
it has happened---its rare---but i do know that it has occurred that someone received a 'warning' not to FM others abuot their experience with a vendor. its just crazy!!!
wow, that is really crazy!! thanks for posting this thread , hopefully it wont be deleted just to give a heads up about what really goes on.
dianadrw
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I'm totally with you on this one!
hb123
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Posted by Espo22
Posted by hb123
Posted by MJDoc12
Posted by Mizzdimple
Posted by hb123
It's sad but true. It's all about $$$$$$$$$
The vendors pay to advertise on the site, big time conflict of interest, but reality. LIW needs to protect it's source of income.....
Exactly if im a vendor and i want to advertise i am not going to advertise on a website that posts bad news about my company - even if its true...
Without vendors LIW cannot operate.
i agree with this to a point -- but its very one sided if any single time any type of negativity is pulled because a vendor doesn't want brides to hear about it.
yes they pay for the site---but i can not tell you how many times brides post after their weddings saying 'i felt disappointed with this vendor after my wedding--and i had read so many glowing things about them' a lot of times its because posts are pulled....and then you don't get the whole story.
and yes ppl should chk with the bbb -- but not every single person goes to bbb for an issue with a vendor. if the issue is something like 'i felt their customer service was lacking because of ....x y z' or 'on the big day they had made some mistakes and didn't put the right flowers here and there...make sure if you deal with so - and -so that you keep on that' why shouldn't those types of posts stay around as a 'heads up' to others? those are the types of posts i am talking about.
ETA: btw--i do remember a post that was pulled about a certain limo company after a bride used them and gave a detailed and honest review about them as a warning. she didn't bash them---she gave facts about how they left guests behind at her wedding instead of taking them back to the hotel as per their agreement, and other information. guess what? that got pulled because the vendor told LIW to pull it.. you know what? a few months later that company was featured on 7 on your Side on Eyewitness News, had MULTIPLE complaints...and was even fined and had one of their limos confiscated.
I completely agree with you, LIW is doing a disservice to their users by not allowing negative posts. At the end of the day, they need to determine where their best interests lie, with the user or the vendor. If the posts are too one sided in favor of the vendors, they will lose credibility with the very users their service is meant to assist.
Honestly, I would be very concerned about a vendor who was so sensitive to negative feedback that they would request censorship. It makes me question their commitment to their product. Negative feedback is the best way to improve your services, if you don't get any, how would you know what you are doing wrong!?! But I guess that's just me!
without the vendors there would be no 'US' if they decide to side with us and abandon their vendors then how would they pay to keep this site? well they could charge us thats how, but im sure alot of ppl wouldn't like that. LIW doesnt do events and keep this running for free, it costs money and the only way they make their money is through advertisement
I'm agreeing with you, but they also need to maintain the integrity of their service. Don't get me wrong, they walk a very fine line between the interests of their users and their vendors.
I'll launch another grenade into the mix, how dependent are the vendors on LIW? I'd be willing to bet that most vendors will not abandon LIW for allowing negative reviews. I'd say they are pretty dependent on LIW as a major resource in targeting their audience: us!
melisjoe
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it all comes down to the fact if the vendors were doing a good job there would not be bad posts.
I guess honesty is not the best policy!!!
AllyDrew1108
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That is so true. I mean, I understand this site relies on advertising, but still - to edit our posts if they are our honest opinions, that's just wrong.
People have a right to know so that maybe they will go about it differently.
Also do we have that much say in someone's biz. Like if one person had a bad experience with a DJ or photog, does that mean they will end up shutting down. I'm sure tons of LI brides are not relying on this site or our comments.
When I was booking my RH, a friend's cousin bad-mouthed the place up and down but I didn't care. I liked the way it looked and the food I tasted was fine and other people said the place was great. Everyone has a different opinion, it's what makes this a free country. Ha ha.
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I'm surprised this whole thread didnt get deleted!