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Epidural Class

070502 Posted:

Epidural Class

I have two options..

Sit through it at 30 weeks or sit through it at 36.


30 weeks seems so early but then at the same time If I wait too long I don't want to be in labor and not have the wavier signed because I did the later class.

I'm kind of in rough spot because normally they are only 4 weeks apart but naturally not when I need to do it.

What would you do?

In the long run, I want the option of an epidural who knows what I will do in labor... so I don't want opinions on the nature of the class just the timing of it!
michele31 Posted:

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30 weeks...never wait until 36 weeks. You could have the baby before then.

I would also read A Thinking Women's Guide to a Better Birth which has A LOT of real information on epidurals. I am not sure if the class discusses how it can slow labor down and increases your risk of c/s or if they discuss natural alternatives such as hot showers, position changes, visualization etc...
Sunny Posted:

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You have to take a class?

Calla Posted:

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I'd suggest taking the class at 30 weeks.

FYI - A new study came out last week that states epidurals don't increase the likelihood of C-sections or slow down labor. The study was published in the New England Journal of Medicine and is considered to be more reliable than prior studies based on the research method used.

Here's an article that talks about it ---

Childbirth study finds lesser risk in epidurals
By Carolyn Y. Johnson, Globe Correspondent | February 17, 2005

For years, many women in labor have endured hours of excruciating pain because doctors warned that early use of epidural anesthesia could increase the likelihood of a Caesarean section, a surgical delivery that carries some health risks to the mother. But a new study says that the advice is wrong and that women need not suffer.

Although 60 percent of the approximately 4 million women who give birth in the United States every year receive epidurals, obstetricians disagree about when it is safe to administer, especially for first-time mothers. Under recommendations adopted by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists in 2002, a first-time mother's cervix should be dilated at least 4 centimeters -- nearly halfway to the 10 centimeters needed for a normal delivery -- before an epidural is administered.

Doctors at Northwestern University challenged that guidance in a study published in today's New England Journal of Medicine, in which women given an epidural before they reached the dilation threshold had faster deliveries, better pain relief, and no more C-sections than women who received narcotics. Narcotics are commonly given to women to dull pain early in labor but are not as effective as an epidural, a local anesthetic injected into the membrane around the spinal cord that blocks pain from below the waist.

Efforts to reduce pain in childbirth have long been controversial -- midwives who offered pain relief were burned at the stake in the 15th century. More recently, concerns over the effects of anesthesia on the infant and opposition to the medicalization of childbirth -- which until the last century took place at home -- led to support for 'natural' childbirth, which relies on relaxation techniques and other methods to help women deal with pain. But as anesthesia has become safer, the natural-childbirth movement has waned.

'Women basically just get a lot of messages that [labor] is hard to experience . . . and then they may meet some people who can say they do it without [medicine] and it will be better for you, or the opposite. And they feel a certain pressure,' said Carol Sakala, director of programs at the New York-based Maternity Center Association, a nonprofit group. She said a recent study showed that an increasing number of women are getting epidurals.

With all the mixed messages, 'what happens is really women come into labor unprepared for the pain,' said Dr. William Camann, an anesthesiologist at Brigham and Women's Hospital and author of an accompanying editorial in the journal. 'This study certainly adds a lot of reassurance to those who want to have epidurals earlier on in labor.'

Studies in the early 1990s showed that women who received epidurals early in labor, before their cervix had opened much, had higher rates of C-sections than women who did not. Doctors believed that the epidural might be interfering with the uterus contracting properly. As a result, obstetricians widely began giving women who requested early pain relief narcotics.

But those studies couldn't tease apart cause and effect. The epidural itself could have caused complications that required a C-section. Alternatively, women who requested early epidurals could have been in more pain, and that could have indicated that something was going wrong -- that the baby was too big or turned in the wrong direction, for example.

'To oversimplify things a little bit . . . is it the fact that they have an epidural, or is it the fact that they have a 10-pound baby?' said Dr. Michael Greene, chief of maternal fetal medicine at Massachuestts General Hospital.

In the new study, done between 2000 and 2003, Dr. Cynthia A. Wong and colleagues at Northwestern randomly assigned either an epidural or narcotics to 728 mothers who went into labor naturally and requested pain relief.

Wong said there were no adverse consequences for women or infants given the early epidural. She said she thought the study would probably change the policy of delaying epidurals at Prentice Women's Hospital in Chicago, where the study was conducted. But officials of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, or ACOG, said they were not likely to change its guidelines based on the study, because the Northwestern doctors combined the epidural with anesthesia injected directly into the spine, an uncommon method.

At some Boston hospitals, there aren't hard and fast rules about when to administer epidurals. At Mass. General, doctors are 'liberal' with epidurals, and wouldn't refuse a patient if her cervix were close to 4 centimeters, said Dr. Laura Riley, an obstetrician there. 'Judging from what I hear around the country, we are not quite as strict as you have to be,' she said. At the Brigham, each patient makes the decision with her doctor, Camann said.

Rebecca Foley gave birth Tuesday at the Brigham to 7-pound, 11-ounce Ryan after six hours of labor. It was a world of difference from her first, 14-hour bout with childbirth. She read. She slept.

This time, the 32-year-old mother received an epidural as soon as she requested it. Two years ago, when she had her first son, Patrick, doctors waited for her cervix to dilate before giving her the shot, and the anesthetic didn't take full effect.

'My sense of humor came back. I would have died if I didn't have this,' she said of the epidural.

What-Now Posted:

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Posted by Sunny

You have to take a class?



Exactly! We have to take a class? I thought it was the anesthesiologist who actually performs the procedure
michele31 Posted:

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That study is just flawed in many ways...it does not take into account WHY the c/s were performed...all it does is reflect the sad state that the c/s rate is up to new highs. Epidurals can create havoc for your body during labor. One study does not disprove that IMO. Yes, epidurals can help women with pain...but it is not always the best thing. Do more research and make a decision based on more knowledge than one study. JMO

jpsgirl Posted:

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LOL, the poor girl that posted the question specifically said she didn't want opinions on the epidural itself, just the timing of the class!! I would also say 30 weeks, I think you will remember the important stuff, it kind of sticks in your head. I strongly believe it is best to be open minded. I was so dead set against having an epidural, I could have done more (like hypno birthing classes, etc.) I didn't - but i really thought I could do it without it, and I just couldn't. Because I was so against it, I waited so long and I was so stressed about it it was terrible. I think keeping an open mind and knowing all of your options is definitley the best way to go - it will all work out in the end!

CarrieAnn Posted:

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30 weeks...i missed the class b/c i delivered early...

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