Hey there,
To address a few posts: another long one ladies… watch out ;) lol.
- Babs – thanks for the update. =( It really does baffle me as to why your situation has not been addressed… frustrating to say the least… She is home now, I guess my best advice would be to go see her in person and demand some answers/ eff* that demand your money. She been responsive to me as I am a future bride but I think she has to do what is right by those who were affected by her situation.
- Agreed she should have had a backup plan in place. I said there is no excuse for what is still going on… I completely agree, she needs to start getting in touch w/ those brides and addressing the outstanding issues & concerns but I think marmar might be the start of the resurrection… I mean ladies – resolution has to start somewhere ehh? (posted regarding marmar below)
- I don’t have that kind of time which is why maybe my posts aren’t in the thousands– so please don’t make fun of the time I found to compile this information, when trying to provide a different point of view. This was neither a defense nor attack, simply some conclusions I found when further investigating facts. I’ve found this website extremely helpful to me and I know there are brides out there who are refraining from posting – in fear of confrontation. So I was just hoping it helped shed some light to those who were sitting back and watching things unfold.
- Regarding the DWI – as I said verdict is still pending. I’m not claiming it is or isn’t her, hence the term PIQ (person in question). Rather than go off a link, I actually followed up with the court system to see if the ticket existed and as of 9/14 they had a record in the system. I wanted y’all ladies to know there was a public arraignment 9/16 in case any one wanted to go and to give a little insight. Anyone go to court on the 16th? Apparently PIQ was in attendance (I confirmed with the city of Yonkers Court). (Update below)
- I did not intend to defend nor attack. Regarding the facts I attained…I did not base my post off of what “Gina said” – because I researched everything she claimed. I didn’t want to take her mothers word or her brothers – because at the end of the day it is her business and she is the only one I expect an account from. I was fortunate enough to have contact and was able to call out a few things; in no way shape or form did I take a back seat to the tune of a sung story. I had questions, I got answers and I found out the facts.
- Like I said this is what I found Good and bad – take it or leave it – I’m not claiming anything, I simply went off of the information I found. If I see a hurricane brewing I don’t just cancel my trip or check the weather channel– I make sure to purchase trip insurance and I pack an umbrella.
- I don’t know why I’m the only one with info (as of now) I waited until I could confront her in person –patience is a virtue. She gave me info and I followed up on it. For example: (1) Her tanning salon never verified there being more than one GL in relation to the DWI business... (2) It could have been easy to settle for what her brother said or just walk away after Gina told me he denied ever claiming she went mental… So I asked if he was home in order to call him out and confront him face to face - I might be tiny but I’m feisty – plus FH was there as my bodyguard lol ;) I back up the talk with the walk. I made sure to include both negative and positive accounts… and made sure to include every lead I could find that would help suffering brides and brides on the fence.
- The brides affected have every right to be upset; I’m not contesting that. I understand brides received emails with false promises…which I do happen to believe are true for which there is no excuse – Heck I’m still waiting for brides to get their refunds. I still have questions and I’m waiting to see when the refunds are going to be processed, but if people have pending lawsuits I think Gina’s hands are tied until the judge calls it, (I dunno)… but I just have the privilege of being a little more patient (granted if someone missed my wedding – I would have NO patience) sooo I’m just wearing a different shoe.
- If you are seeking the $1400 AFTER the initial deposit – I believe you are correct and you should be entitled to get that money back as you will no longer require her services (that was not part of the deposit).
Break for Update: Followed up w/ court regarding DWI appearance – the PIQ showed up but the meeting was adjourned – to September 30 @ 9:30a (Reason: Attorney was not available). Wanted to update y’all in case any one wants to plan ahead in order to attend. If anyone had gone on the 16th they could have seen PIQ. Sept 30 is the next court date.
- I did the best I could do, when checking what was my reality. This sounds like a lot of detective work (I just wanted to make sure I was as thorough as possible when posting bc I def thought twice before doing so; it would have been way easier to just ignore but I wanted to be as informative as possible if this does happen to help anyone out there taking a different approach) – but in all honesty – a couple trips to her house, and a few phone calls didn’t equal that much stress – for me it was more stressful reading about all the he said she said without gaining any answers and taking matters into my own hands; I was trying to gain more clarity amidst all the chaos. I got up off my arse and exercised my legs and lips not my fingertips.
- Anything I do – I don’t do half-arsed. I wanted you ladies to have a first-hand account of when I confronted the situation in person. Clearly I posted the comment she said about CS – bc I had no way of confirming this – so I did the next best thing – I posted what she said to gain further insight. [CS thanks for the update ;)]
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I also posted the hospital she claimed she was in –LIJ– if anyone works there or has a connection – do the math, look into records?? Everyone is so quick to jump to a conclusion – I provided the most detailed info I could… so maybe we could get more answers.
- As for the bride whose wedding she did 2 weekends ago (whose flowers I confirmed with my own eyes)– she has yet to post due to her honeymoon (its so far been a week and a couple days since her wedding if anyone felt like counting). Based on some of the facts I found, including the very important fact that she did this wedding I would be willing to stand by her – but some actions are still pending of course. I’m still giving it time to see the outcome of refunds and deposits.
Sidenote: I know Marmar provided an update – but I was actually in contact with another bride, marmar is NOT the bride I was referring to, however she is an LIW bride. The flowers for the wedding I saw were actually on the weekend of 9/11 - 9/12. However – I did follow-up with Marmar as well and I wrote something regarding her post. (see below).
- While I think Gina could have handled situation(s) much differently and she has to most certainly answer to the weddings she missed (inexcusable) I don’t think she’s locked up in a tower brewing witch’s stew and cackling away… she’s been very responsive (with me) and I do believe she’s a good person at heart… She’s probably struggling right now… not everyone is ready and willing to admit their mistakes, especially if the situation was out of your control. Maybe she needs to hire a professional consultant – not every entrepreneur is afforded the opportunity for proper business management. Sometimes it takes a time-out or lesson learned, but that doesn’t mean it ends without a second chance or opportunity for redemption…there clearly needs to be more action for answers…
- I’ve never been too much of an email person (I can barley stand texting for more than 5 minutes at a time lol)– I always try to always speak with my vendors via phone and in person and email when necessary. Trust me my skin was itching to try and get some sort of facts. In this case phone or email wasn’t going to cut it for me – I needed to confirm w/ her in person. I personally think it’s a lot easier for someone to hide behind a phone call/ email… so for me it was worth it to see her in person and she said I could drop by anytime… I believe she meant this comment towards all her brides – so long as you don’t take the door off the hinges ;)
- While I couldn’t see her hospital papers as my contract hasn’t been carried out yet – she did say she’d show the girls whose weddings she missed (directly affected) I personally would never send hospital paperwork via email (due to sensitive information) so I would only assume this would be done in person. The best advice I could give – is to go see her in person
- Regarding her website: I’m pretty sure
Ginarose Flowers is still functioning. Regarding her number…I tried calling and at first it said disconnected but I immediately tried it again and it led me to her mailbox – so I think its still working. Don’t give up after one try – put your back into it ;) oh and the numbers ended in – 0261. She used to have another number but this is the one that was functioning. Her home number is unlisted otherwise I would lead you girls to the yellow pages but I can’t provide you with that info.
- …& I’ll actually say this – because so far I’ve been careful to walk on eggshells and not step on toes – but I think its great CS made this thread, clearly the negatives outweigh the positives, but all of sudden some light begins to shine on the situation… and people want it stopped. Okay… that’s not fair at all…
- Regarding MarMar post – come off it ladies will ya (no offense to anyone) but omigosh I can’t blame other brides for not posting if this is the reactions the posts merit… you’re accusing her of being a fake, questioning her wedding dress pictures… I mean geesh! And yes true to form… I actually called the Woodbury Country Club and I confirmed her wedding Date and time – August 15th @ 6:00p. They thought it was a weird question but I told them straight up – florist didn’t show up to a couple weddings including this brides – she’s trying to rectify the situation since she’s the first to get some real action and people are accusing her of being fake, she said we could call and confirm. Ladies the information is all here – everyone is so quick to accuse but why hasn’t anyone tried to justify? I dunno that’s just maybe me - I like to read the book before writing the report. I thought this was a Bridal community –but sometimes it can feel more like the stepford wives at times… She has just as every right to post her opinions here as you do. Just because her opinion is in favor of Gina – doesn’t mean she is wrong or a fake. Everyone was ready and willing to accept her negative comments in the beginning and now the tide turns…
Her wedding was missed and rather than attack (which she did at first – we all say things when we’re angry – I myself had her pictured in the Looney bin before I confronted her brother and called him out on a lie)… she sought Gina out in person. I contacted marmar and spoke with her (more detective work oooo) to gain some further insight and confirm some of the things she said… Not defending her by any means, but I’m not going to start an attack either. This was her experience and she wished to share…that’s it. Short of asking her to provide wedding pictures and reaching out to her yourself (besides this thread)… there’s not much more you can do then take it for what it is. I’m not going to contact the brides who said they received emails with false promises, because I actually DO believe their accounts; there is no reason for me to question that. I don’t know why Gina would lie (asides from possibly being misunderstood) – but hands down - she does have to provide answers to THOSE brides. I’m not about to ask someone for an email chain, I believe they deserve an answer from Gina – and though I’m trying to gather facts – sending me an email isn’t going to help their case or mine; Its very clear Gina still owes THEM answers. Please ladies – YOU have been asking for proof and action and this and that – (not that Marmar’s post is the be all and end all but it’s a start) she is the first bride Gina is trying to rectify the situation with and sought the first viable forms of proof (papers)... and you jump down her throat! True – everyone is entitled to their opinions - I’ll give you that & maybe marmar should have worded things a little differently; I think she meant that some brides posting have no relation (connection) hence no merit in regards to this whole Gina mess, that’s all… (but that’s only what I think she meant IMO)... I’m not about to call her back asking what she meant. You have your opinions regarding the situation and she has hers, it’s a forum and that’s it. I’m mean at this point is anything going to satisfy anyone..??? this is what you’ve all been asking for… I’m sure this is the first step in a line of wrongdoings Gina has to correct. Marmar didn’t wait for Gina to reach out to her – she sought her out… emailing is only one form of contact – other means still exist. I keep hearing emails and calls – has anyone sought her in person?? If it’s that important and clearly still in issue…just make the effort... I know Gina should be reaching out but if she’s not (clearly the case for some of you) and the concerns are this pressing (25,000 views later)– go see her. Marmar is telling you Gina showed her the paperwork and report (which in my previous post – I said though - I did not see it, Gina said she would show the brides who were affected, meaning missed events)… so if she’s posting this information (for those of you affected) IMO – your next step should be to go demand the proof in person for yourself. At this point asides from legal action, this is the best way to get some answers and actions (IMO)
- As for the concern regarding this thread (as a whole)– I was under the impression that it was meant to keep all Gina related posts/ concerns in one place. There is no need for bullying someone into not posting just because their opinion/ action differs or they had a change of heart… relax…Clearly their have been many non-gina brides who posted their reactions because THEY ARE entitled to their opinion and not once did someone tell them it wasn’t their problem and to get off… simmer down now. I think we can all respect where EVERYONE is coming from… all angles. My wedding is in May so I got a little time, brides who didn’t get their flowers should be compensated (refunded), pending brides need to work out their deposits or whatever the case might be and marmar’s wedding was missed – she was in some of your shoes and she is now being compensated and moving forward with action she sought from Gina in person. That’s all folks.
I do hope some of the facts (research) I provided in my previous post helps some of y’all reading in the rafters. -Again- this reply was only to address some responses and neither to defend nor attack… someone referred to me earlier as Tania?? So here I am =)
...& I felt I had to respond regarding marmar – cuz I reached out to her to follow-up & goodness gracious talk about giving the poor girl a chance… she’s the first who’s seeing some action from Gina and is happy to share the news. I’m not quite sure if someone got a refund that they would post in Gina’s favor at this point (IMO). Just like anyone of the brides could have called the Woodbury Country Club and confirmed marmar’s claims and no one commented on the earlier post about the fact that Gina’s website was still working after everyone kept harping on the supposed fact… soon as that was posted… not a word was said about that claim… c’mon ladies. Let’s be civil. Just calling it like it is.
