Posted by BMD'sPeanut
Hi Kel!
Posted by kel2004
Posted by BMD'sPeanut
Hi Kel!
Hey Peanut! 100 days for you!![]()
Posted by FLaCaTaCa
to 5 months in jail, 5 months house arrest and 2 years probation!!!!
I think that she broke the law therefore she should go to jail. Nothing more...nothing less.
I can't believe it!!!! Thats all she got. I'm of two minds here, one I think she should have gotten more time, and two I have to agree with the person who said this thing is blown way out of proportion and that if she was a man she would have gotten away with a slap on the hand.
Posted by OctGroom
two words.. Michael Milkin.
they broke the law.. plain and simple.
others who were rich got away with it..
The Justice system isn't perfect.
No argument there.
but she's going to a minimum security facility.
If it was a regular guy(gal), it'd be the pen for 10 years.. she should consider herself lucky.
Posted by verdila
I may be alone but I sort of feel bad for Martha - they destroyed her company and lots of people are losing their jobs - and for what?
There are a lot worse corporate criminals out there. I think they used MARTHA as an example and she was an easy target because lots of people hate powerful women.
Posted by ChristineC68
Posted by OctGroom
two words.. Michael Milkin.
they broke the law.. plain and simple.
others who were rich got away with it..
The Justice system isn't perfect.
No argument there.
but she's going to a minimum security facility.
If it was a regular guy(gal), it'd be the pen for 10 years.. she should consider herself lucky.
one word - Pinnochio.
She is going to jail for lying, not insider trading.
I don't think she needs to be in a maximum security facility with murderers, etc.
Posted by OctGroom
Posted by ChristineC68
Posted by OctGroom
two words.. Michael Milkin.
they broke the law.. plain and simple.
others who were rich got away with it..
The Justice system isn't perfect.
No argument there.
but she's going to a minimum security facility.
If it was a regular guy(gal), it'd be the pen for 10 years.. she should consider herself lucky.
one word - Pinnochio.
She is going to jail for lying, not insider trading.
I don't think she needs to be in a maximum security facility with murderers, etc.
and on the other side of the coin.. she shouldn't be treated anymore special just because she's Martha Stewart.
and what about Lizzie Grubman.. was she treated too harshly as well?
Posted by ChristineC68
Lizzie Grubman is a completely different situation and I think that it's a crime that she only went to jail for 30 days.
Exactly... Grubman actually INJURED people while drunk and behind the wheel, and left the scene of the accident and she got less time than Martha is getting. Martha didn't hurt anyone she just tried to add to her empire (not that I am condoning) by doing something that has been done by others many times before with lesser punishment.
Posted by ChristineC68
Posted by OctGroom
Posted by ChristineC68
Posted by OctGroom
two words.. Michael Milkin.
they broke the law.. plain and simple.
others who were rich got away with it..
The Justice system isn't perfect.
No argument there.
but she's going to a minimum security facility.
If it was a regular guy(gal), it'd be the pen for 10 years.. she should consider herself lucky.
one word - Pinnochio.
She is going to jail for lying, not insider trading.
I don't think she needs to be in a maximum security facility with murderers, etc.
and on the other side of the coin.. she shouldn't be treated anymore special just because she's Martha Stewart.
and what about Lizzie Grubman.. was she treated too harshly as well?
How many convicted liars are in prison? A maximum security prison? I really don't know - is it normal to imprison every person that lies to an investigator about an investigation? (eta - I am not talking about the ones that say 'I didn't do it' that are lying)
Lizzie Grubman is a completely different situation and I think that it's a crime that she only went to jail for 30 days.
Posted by Kriss2c
Posted by ChristineC68
Lizzie Grubman is a completely different situation and I think that it's a crime that she only went to jail for 30 days.
Exactly... Grubman actually INJURED people while drunk and behind the wheel, and left the scene of the accident and she got less time than Martha is getting. Martha didn't hurt anyone she just tried to add to her empire (not that I am condoning) by doing something that has been done by others many times before with lesser punishment.
and I will say that if Lizzie was a man (though she kinda looks one..)
she/he would still be sitting there.
both her and Martha got off easy.
Posted by OctGroom
obviously.. we all lie.. it's just a human thing.
but if you do it to the Feds or under Oath.. you break the law.. and those are serious charges she was convicted of.
ok.. i was off base with the insdier trading thing... but what she did was a felony.
and maybe she doesn't belong in a prison like 'OZ'.. but it should not be sleep-away camp either. Jail should be meant to punish severly so that peope will not want to go back.
and as for men.. i think we need to differentiate.. regular Joes would be gone for a long time.. rich guys may be able to get away with it. and I'll be honest with you..
i do not buy the powerful woman argument.
not for one moment. (we can agree to disagree on that one).
i see everybody as the same..
you do the crime.. you do the time.
Posted by ChristineC68
Posted by OctGroom
obviously.. we all lie.. it's just a human thing.
but if you do it to the Feds or under Oath.. you break the law.. and those are serious charges she was convicted of.
ok.. i was off base with the insdier trading thing... but what she did was a felony.
and maybe she doesn't belong in a prison like 'OZ'.. but it should not be sleep-away camp either. Jail should be meant to punish severly so that peope will not want to go back.
and as for men.. i think we need to differentiate.. regular Joes would be gone for a long time.. rich guys may be able to get away with it. and I'll be honest with you..
i do not buy the powerful woman argument.
not for one moment. (we can agree to disagree on that one).
i see everybody as the same..
you do the crime.. you do the time.
Yes, they are serious charges, but in light of other people charged & convicted of much more serious and sometimes violent crimes, this sentencing is still harsh in my opinion. Lizzie Grubman had a walk in the park compared to this instance and I think her crimes are much more serious. Both are women.
I doubt any type of prison is like a sleep away camp and being trapped in your home for months is not as easy as it seems.
I'm shocked....I really thought she wouldn't get jail time....It's funny how they let athletes get away with stuff, but not Martha...
