We don't live in Kansas, where, frankly, I would NOT use the word gay as I thought I could here, since in Kansas people might think I was referring to homosexuals.
IMO, gay is not a derogatory word. There are lots of other words that are derogatory that I would not use - ever.
To me, 'That is so gay' evokes childhood -- and a time when I certainly was not thinking of homosexuals when I used it. The phrase meant something lame, and corny, not 'homosexual'.
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IMO...it is just a word..a word by definition means happy, exuberant or joyful..how is that bad or wrong?
Ignorant people have put the negative connotation to the word...the word itself isn't meant to be derogagtory...
I think the word can and should be used and not stigmatized the way it has... The more people attach negativity to the word the more it is associated with it.. jmo
couldnt have said it better myself...
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Just for the record...
I used it to describe a game to play last night. The post is here somehwere. Anyway, I did not MEAN to refer to anything derogatory toward homosexuals, but I can see how it can be that way. I used the word to describe the game which was corny - I used the word corny - not 'bad'.
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Just for the record...
I used it to describe a game to play last night. The post is here somehwere. Anyway, I did not MEAN to refer to anything derogatory toward homosexuals, but I can see how it can be that way. I used the word to describe the game which was corny - I used the word corny - not 'bad'.
clueless...99% of the girls on here knew exactly what you meant by it, and were not offended at all...
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well, think back to olden times when people had a gay time at a party or a ball, meaning it was lovely and splendid...when did that change?
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Just for the record...
I used it to describe a game to play last night. The post is here somehwere. Anyway, I did not MEAN to refer to anything derogatory toward homosexuals, but I can see how it can be that way. I used the word to describe the game which was corny - I used the word corny - not 'bad'.
THAT IS MY POINT! You should use it a good way! I don't think you necessarily need to edite you post! I think if people start using it ina good way then the negativity that is associated with the word will disappear!
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I was not offended i thought that posting with the stories were funny i enjoyed it! I was going to do a story than i saw no one posted anymore.
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Posted by cluelessbride
Just for the record...
I used it to describe a game to play last night. The post is here somehwere. Anyway, I did not MEAN to refer to anything derogatory toward homosexuals, but I can see how it can be that way. I used the word to describe the game which was corny - I used the word corny - not 'bad'.
clueless...99% of the girls on here knew exactly what you meant by it, and were not offended at all...
I'm one of the 99%, in fact I think its probably more like 99.9%
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If you said you wanted to play a gay game as in a fun game, which as anothe poster said would be completely atiquated, we wouldn;t be having this discussion. I KNOW you didn't mean it to offend everyone, but like you said when you said in 6th grade you didn't know it's roots and you were just saying what your friends said, now you know what it means, so ignorance isn't really an excuse. I'm not saying oh you have to stop using that word immediately, I'm just trying to point out that some words that we've made part of our vocabulary have really hateful roots, and that really is the seed of hatred- words. Equating what someone IS with being lame, bad, stupid, gross. Even if to US it means nothing, there's something to much more subtle going on in our society that has over the years made it perfectly acceptable to alrge groups of people to equate who someone is with something negative. If I posted 'Let's play a really Jewish game' and I mean a really bad or corny game, or 'Let's play a really black/white/hispanic game' you would either be completely shocked or you'd laugh at how absurd it was. Well it's the same thing. i find it shocking that a word descriebing who someone is (no, this particular usage did NOT derive from the original meaning of gay which means happy, so don't even bring that up becayse you KNOW that's not where it came from) can be equated with something negative, and I also find it absurd that people would make that part of their speech and continue to use a characteristic of many many people on this planet as a word for 'lame' I really think everyone should get a thesaurus or something if they can't find a better word.
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i also wanted to say, that although everyone here is like 'im not offended by it' (and dont worry, neither am i).... the fact is, none of us are gay! (or else if u are, you should probably find a new forum!).... so why WOULD we be offended? ... BUT if we were to say it in public, we certainly can offend people, so i hope you girls see my point, i cant explain myself very good.
ETA: just b/c it doesnt offend US doesnt mean its 'ok' to use it!!
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lolita, that makes sense.
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i also wanted to say, that although everyone here is like 'im not offended by it' (and dont worry, neither am i).... the fact is, none of us are gay! (or else if u are, you should probably find a new forum!).... so why WOULD we be offended? ... BUT if we were to say it in public, we certainly can offend people, so i hope you girls see my point, i cant explain myself very good.
ETA: just b/c it doesnt offend US doesnt mean its 'ok' to use it!!
yes but lolita...it is sad that using the word is offensive to anyone! People who use it in a derogatory manner...WELL THEY ARE IGNORANT..and should just be ignored... But the intelligent people of the world have the ability to use the word appropriately and should be able to do so without judgement or any offense taken by others!
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gay:
ADJECTIVE: gay·er , gay·est .Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. .Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.
hispanic:
ADJECTIVE:
Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.
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yeah but when most people use it, they probably dont even mean for it to be offensive, but when we get right down to it, 'gay' really means dumb/stupid... just like she said she made up a gay game. so if someone used something that YOU are in a way like that, youd most likely be offended. theres just no need for the word to be used like that. theres a a zillion other words more fitting.
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Posted by lolita4life
i also wanted to say, that although everyone here is like 'im not offended by it' (and dont worry, neither am i).... the fact is, none of us are gay! (or else if u are, you should probably find a new forum!).... so why WOULD we be offended? ... BUT if we were to say it in public, we certainly can offend people, so i hope you girls see my point, i cant explain myself very good.
ETA: just b/c it doesnt offend US doesnt mean its 'ok' to use it!!
yes but lolita...it is sad that using the word is offensive to anyone! People who use it in a derogatory manner...WELL THEY ARE IGNORANT..and should just be ignored... But the intelligent people of the world have the ability to use the word appropriately and should be able to do so without judgement or any offense taken by others!
It's not ever appropriate when it means 'lame, bad, etc'....can i just start using the word 'hispanic' to mean 'lame, bad, terrible'
This derivation did NOT come from the 'good, joyful, happy' usage.
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It's not ever appropriate when it means 'lame, bad, etc'....can i just start using the word 'hispanic' to mean 'lame, bad, terrible'
i think that is obvious
lolita4life
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although I am not offended by the word 'gay'.. doesnt mean its NOT offensive just like im not offended by the word' cun t'.. but its still an offensive word
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It's not ever appropriate when it means 'lame, bad, etc'....can i just start using the word 'hispanic' to mean 'lame, bad, terrible'
i think that is obvious
Why is one obvious and the other not?
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It's not ever appropriate when it means 'lame, bad, etc'....can i just start using the word 'hispanic' to mean 'lame, bad, terrible'
i think that is obvious
Why is one obvious and the other not?
other?
IMO if someone uses the word gay for which the word was intended there should be no problem with that...the word gay is not an offensive word...
If someone is putting a negative light on the word well that is WRONG AND IGNORANT...
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If someone is putting a negative light on the word well that is WRONG AND IGNORANT...
oooooooooh, totally i misunderstood you
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what the heck is going on? Poeple getting snowed in are losing it....If your offended, your offended, oh well...bottom line..GET OVER IT....Takes two seoconds to GET OVER IT....