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Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Original post by Xelindrya

Ok, awake now.
Sorry about last night.. I started to crash hard. Odd how your body shuts down on you like that. I rambled like an idiot, I hope to be more clear now.

Ok, so yes I refuse to see the movie (or at least pay for it)

Now the tickets are free so you could say “Hey it’s a free movie go for it” But I feel like its not exactly without strings attached. Nothing with religion in my experience has ever come with no strings attached.

The more I hear about bibles being handed out and Church sponsored free tickets the more I get turned off. If the Church (any of them) wants me to see this movie to ‘learn’. I assume they know I wouldn’t actually pay the ridiculous high price of $10 a movie ticket to see yet another interpretation of something I read in the bible I can’t recall how many times and something I see on every other channel for a week during Easter, then there’s GOT to be a catch. I’d rather spend my money on entertainment than seeing Christ crucified, again. They are absolutely right.

Honestly just my opinion but if it were just a promotion for the movie then other folks, OTHER THAN CHURCHES, would offer free tickets. Honestly, it’s creeping me out that churches are so heavily pushing this movie. Besides.. you think they are going to say “Oh I’m sorry, you’re already a believer, I can only give these free tickets to those who would benefit” …? I’m sure most of the tickets will go to church followers.

All that being said, lets say I just had free time and someone HANDED me tickets (cause I can’t imagine giving my name and address to a church, I’d rather get Bridal Junk mail than Church Junk mail). Lets say I go see it. I would feel as if I was inside a church all over again (since I believe any place where those who gather to worship in his name *IS* a church). I would feel like I couldn’t express myself as easily. I’m not a talker in a movie but I’ve been known from time to time to laugh at the stupidity of a movie if I find it funny. Usually I have no problem. But Religious people are taking this movie really seriously. I would feel that I had to watch everything I did and be very careful not to offend. Because A) I DON’T WANT TO OFFEND and B) God help me if I did. See if I’m honest and truthful in my opinions, I have this nasty habit of standing by them. Worse, I don’t back down. When it happens in a church I’m more comfortable, but when it happens in public you must beware. I have learned some folks are religious zealots and take great offense to a person like me who questions their beliefs or expresses their own beliefs that are opposite of that zealot. Zealots can be VERY scary people.

So to summarize (cause I’ve gotten out of hand) .. I was curious about this movie, yes, now I think I’ll just wait until it comes on Cable TV. Free tickets? I doubt it’s actually “free”.

Oddly enough, I will go see the DaVinci Code when it hits theatres hehe.

Actually if the drama of this dies down I may go see it then. When I know the people in the theatre are there just to watch a movie not push a mission or on a quest of knowledge.

It’s Hollywood people! ENTERTAINMENT!

Again, to those who do want to go see it, have fun and send back reviews. Kudos to those who are passing on the info so others who WANT to see it can see it for free. I think it’s a nice gesture by the Churches to pay for tickets.

I think that covers what it. Its an odd ball to try to wrap my mind around and then articulate into some type of understandable sense with words, but I hope I got it out ok.

Hugs to all!
This is just my opinion not really meant to start an argument. I put it on a new post just cause I don’t want to mar the post that was in all honestly just being helpful. (Thanks Kristin - June262004)

Lunatrek Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

nevermind

Latina511 Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by Lisa Rose

Posted by Lunatrek

Posted by Lisa Rose

Posted by CIMINOK

Posted by Xelindrya

I rambled like an idiot


What else is new?


I also agree!!


OK, that's just not nice. It's one thing to have opinions, but don't just blatantly insult people.


You are right! i will edit my post.

Im just a little tired of the non-scenical postings that go on!! NO ONE is holding a gun to your head to go see the movie, NO ONE is thumping you with a bible to read it....dont go see the movie then...free or not!!


Lisa..you took the words right out of my mouth.
shamma Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by Lisa Rose

Im just a little tired of the non-scenical postings that go on!! NO ONE is holding a gun to your head to go see the movie, NO ONE is thumping you with a bible to read it....dont go see the movie then...free or not!!


THis is what I was trying to say but couldn't. You have to call, they are offering it, if you want to go, call if you are not interested then don't call. We are in America, freedom of choice.
Latina511 Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by Stacey1403

Posted by Misty

I have ask...what is creeping you out about Churchs handing out tickets to this film? The film depicts the crucifiction of Christ, which is the focal point of the Catholiscim. If nothing else, this film will put a portrait of what happened to this man into the mind of Catholics that will fuel their faith...not fuel their hatred of Jews, because any Catholic with a brain in their head knows that it wasn't 'the Jews Killed Christ'..it was the 'powers that be' who HAPPENED to be Jewish that did. BECAUSE AT THE TIME EVERYONE WAS JEWISH INCLUDING JESUS.

Has anyone thought of what the reaction would be if a Holocaust film came out that showed men women and babies being walked into an oven...and actually showed what happened IN THE OVEN and didn't stop with just them walking in like most films have done???? It would have a pretty profound impact on you wouldn't it? And it would make every single person on this earth remember what happened, and not forget, and not lose sight of the goal...which is to make sure something like it NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.

Sorry to be so graphic, I just have some pretty strong views about this whole thing.



Excellent point


yes..excellent point.
Samanthas Mom Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

and what exactly is bible thumping? lol
I never heard of it before
Lisa Rose Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

its someone that 'pushes' their religion on someone.

they are 'thumping' the bible on someone's head to get them to change their ways.
NYCHICK Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

I meant the 'live by the bible or you will die' type of churchgoer.

Misty Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Edited..it was explained better. lol.

alina Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Xel, you're making an 'elephant out of a fly' as a russian saying goes!!!

Yes this movie is a big deal, but what's wrong with a)free tickets, where you actually have to call to get them and b)seeing the movie regardless of where you stand!!!

I don't believe in G-d nor am I a practicing Jew, but I think I will see the movie for information purposes. Obviously it will have an effect on the population, so why miss something that's important?

I would see the movie whether it was free or not free, and I highly doubt that it will change the views of those with strong self-awareness/personality.
shamma Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Yes, I never did get what this thing about bible thumping or holy roller, was all about. I have heard people throw those terms around but I never get them.

If you are a believer in your faith and your are zealous about it and want to share with others, does that make you a thumper or a holy roller???
shamma Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by Lisa Rose

its someone that 'pushes' their religion on someone.

they are 'thumping' the bible on someone's head to get them to change their ways.


I have shared my faith with others, but it is then up to them to do with it what they want. I would never force religion or my belief on anyone
shamma Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by NYCHICK

I meant the 'live by the bible or you will die' type of churchgoer.


I guess if that is how one feels and they are spreading it, I guess others who believe otherwise would look at them as bible thumpers. I guess this could go for any faith/religion IMO
NYCHICK Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by shamma

I have shared my faith with others, but it is then up to them to do with it what they want. I would never force religion or my belief on anyone


then you are not a bible thumper
BMD'sPeanut Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by alina

Xel, you're making an 'elephant out of a fly' as a russian saying goes!!!

Yes this movie is a big deal, but what's wrong with a)free tickets, where you actually have to call to get them and b)seeing the movie regardless of where you stand!!!

I don't believe in G-d nor am I a practicing Jew, but I think I will see the movie for information purposes. Obviously it will have an effect on the population, so why miss something that's important?

I would see the movie whether it was free or not free, and I highly doubt that it will change the views of those with strong self-awareness/personality.


Nice!
NYCHICK Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by shamma

Posted by NYCHICK

I meant the 'live by the bible or you will die' type of churchgoer.


I guess if that is how one feels and they are spreading it, I guess others who believe otherwise would look at them as bible thumpers. I guess this could go for any faith/religion IMO



Absolulely, not just religions, you can lump this in with ANYTHING in life. No one should force what they believe on anyone. The term is just synonimous(sp?) with Christianity.
Lisa Rose Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Posted by shamma

Yes, I never did get what this thing about bible thumping or holy roller, was all about. I have heard people throw those terms around but I never get them.

If you are a believer in your faith and your are zealous about it and want to share with others, does that make you a thumper or a holy roller???


I think when its un-welcomed thats when it becomes bible thumping or a holy roller. TO discuss religion with someone is one thing....but for it to be the ONLY think that you discuss and it makes the other person uncomfortable or angry...then it becomes a problem.

Samanthas Mom Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

to me if your talking to someone its one thing, I would define the pushers as those who actually RING your door bell to talk to you
its one thing to leave a pamphlet but it is pushy to go door to door that is a bit zealous
when I lived in brooklyn, we got it all the time! and here on LI too but not as much as the city
shamma Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

I guess when the Jehovah's witness come to my door I can choose not to answer, they don't bother me at all, b/c I just tell them I am not interested. That's all. My g-ma used to reason with them, they never stopped at her gate again She scares them
NYCHICK Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

No the JV's are stalkers. they completely freak me out. they are way past the 'thumping' stage.
PrincessRose Posted:

Re: Probably a Controversial Subject: Why I won’t see Passion of Christ – especially with a free ticket. (My reply from last night's Free Ticket post)

Ok, this is my third attempt at posting this, which is probably a sign from G-d to NOT post it, but I'm going to go for it anyway.

No one is saying that Anyone here is a bible-thumper. I'm VERY GLAD that so many people are strong in their faith, and I hope that everyone can find their own way.

However:

To say that everyone was Jewish at the time of Jesus is Ignorant. There were worshippers of Roman, Greek, Celtic, etc etc etc gods and goddesses, not to mention those of the Eastern religions. The implication of the Jews in the execution of Jesus was actually written into the gospels as a way of converting as many non-Christians as possible. This was admitted by the Roman Catholic church as part of the Second Vatican Council, the very doctrine that Mel Gibson is hoping to reverse by making this movie.

ETA: I find the mentions of the Holocaust and Holocaust movies in the defense of Mel Gibson ESPECIALLY humorous, as his parents are quoted TODAY in the Daily News as calling the Holocaust 'Fiction'. Lovely, Ain't it?

I hope that you are all right when you say it is 'just a movie'.

I hope that it is incredibly powerful and moving in the ways it OUGHT to be to those of the Christian Faith.

I hope that no one is hurt or killed in the wake of this movie, and that the ADL is wrong in their concerns.

And finally, I hope that none of you ever have to experience any sort of Discrimination, because it's a pretty awful thing to go through.

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