this is bs!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously you stupid fing judge???? you want to do this when so many people are in danger of losing their jobs? you are a fing dumbasss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! since when did a paper test have eyes that could see what color your skin is?

this is stupid
back pay?

how about back pay for me and the 4 months i didnt have a job?

and the three jobs they are cutting... teachers, fireman and police...

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!!

that is so stupid.

in my opinion for police & fire department i want the best qualified person hired no matter what nationality they are.

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

What about the proposed metrocard for the school kids? Does Patterson have any idea what the truancy and drop out rate will be for poor kids who have to pay for metrocards to get to school? Especially when their firefighter and city cop parents lose their jobs in his proposal...what a jacka*s!

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i'm not trying to start anything, but i wouldn't say that the children of cops and firefighters are poor maybe not as well off as others, but certainly not poor. i'm sure you didn't mean it in that way though

I'm confused about the whole metrocard thing. I know students should at least get a discounted rate for their cards, but why should they get them for free? Do these kids HAVE to use the subway to get to school? I know that the kids I see going to the private schools near my work on the subway are probably well off enough to buy a $90 metrocard a month. No one NEEDS a metrocard to get anywhere -- they're choosing to take the subway instead of walking.

The whole thing is stupid. I hate Bloomberg. I hate Paterson.

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Posted by drivwal

what are we talking about here??

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click on the links...

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Posted by brittndave

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

What about the proposed metrocard for the school kids? Does Patterson have any idea what the truancy and drop out rate will be for poor kids who have to pay for metrocards to get to school? Especially when their firefighter and city cop parents lose their jobs in his proposal...what a jacka*s!

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i'm not trying to start anything, but i wouldn't say that the children of cops and firefighters are poor maybe not as well off as others, but certainly not poor. i'm sure you didn't mean it in that way though

I'm confused about the whole metrocard thing. I know students should at least get a discounted rate for their cards, but why should they get them for free? Do these kids HAVE to use the subway to get to school? I know that the kids I see going to the private schools near my work on the subway are probably well off enough to buy a $90 metrocard a month. No one NEEDS a metrocard to get anywhere -- they're choosing to take the subway instead of walking.

The whole thing is stupid. I hate Bloomberg. I hate Paterson.

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she didnt say they were poor... they certainly dont make a lot of money and it wont help if they loose their jobs

I dont think they should get them free, and unfortunately not everyone can walk to school... and 90% of the time public transportation is necessary... i had to take 2 buses to get to HS....

i can barely afford my $90 metro card every month and it comes directly out of my check

ETA: she did say poor... my bad...

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Posted by brittndave

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

What about the proposed metrocard for the school kids? Does Patterson have any idea what the truancy and drop out rate will be for poor kids who have to pay for metrocards to get to school? Especially when their firefighter and city cop parents lose their jobs in his proposal...what a jacka*s!

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i'm not trying to start anything, but i wouldn't say that the children of cops and firefighters are poor maybe not as well off as others, but certainly not poor. i'm sure you didn't mean it in that way though

I'm confused about the whole metrocard thing. I know students should at least get a discounted rate for their cards, but why should they get them for free? Do these kids HAVE to use the subway to get to school? I know that the kids I see going to the private schools near my work on the subway are probably well off enough to buy a $90 metrocard a month. No one NEEDS a metrocard to get anywhere -- they're choosing to take the subway instead of walking.

The whole thing is stupid. I hate Bloomberg. I hate Paterson.

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Actually, a lot of kids go to school in different boroughs/far from where they live, so they need to take the train.

I think she meant though that if the cop/firefighter parents lose their jobs due to this decision, THEN they'll be poor and less able to afford MetroCards... but I agree, many of them are pretty well off after their initial raises (cops start at like $20-somethingK a year. Pitiful.)

i only saw one link that talked about his budget plan and cuts which i think, just in my opinion, are not what this state needs. why cut jobs from education in a country where our education system is by far exceeded academically by most other countries in the world (which is embarassing when we call ourselves a leader or country which can be used as an ideal model example). We need poice officers and firefighters too what is wrong with this man? And cutting curbside garbage pickup and litter removal?? Is he nuts? NYC is one of the dirtiest cities in the world...why does he want to make it worse? He def needs a new assistant in planning. we are all good planners (obviously ) maybe he should hire one of us haha

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Posted by brittndave

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

What about the proposed metrocard for the school kids? Does Patterson have any idea what the truancy and drop out rate will be for poor kids who have to pay for metrocards to get to school? Especially when their firefighter and city cop parents lose their jobs in his proposal...what a jacka*s!

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i'm not trying to start anything, but i wouldn't say that the children of cops and firefighters are poor maybe not as well off as others, but certainly not poor. i'm sure you didn't mean it in that way though

I'm confused about the whole metrocard thing. I know students should at least get a discounted rate for their cards, but why should they get them for free? Do these kids HAVE to use the subway to get to school? I know that the kids I see going to the private schools near my work on the subway are probably well off enough to buy a $90 metrocard a month. No one NEEDS a metrocard to get anywhere -- they're choosing to take the subway instead of walking.

The whole thing is stupid. I hate Bloomberg. I hate Paterson.

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Not 'poor' as in money, but 'poor' kids as in I feel bad for the kids who have to ride the bus or subway. They didn't even propose a reduced fare, but to cut the card altogether! You'd be surprised how many city kids (my daughter included) have to ride the trains and subways because they are too far to walk and no car in the family. I didn't think you were starting , not today!!
It's just a bad deal all around for the city and I too cannot understand the logic of Patterson or Bloomberg

Edited to add my at the 'cheapshot'!

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

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Posted by brittndave

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

What about the proposed metrocard for the school kids? Does Patterson have any idea what the truancy and drop out rate will be for poor kids who have to pay for metrocards to get to school? Especially when their firefighter and city cop parents lose their jobs in his proposal...what a jacka*s!

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i'm not trying to start anything, but i wouldn't say that the children of cops and firefighters are poor maybe not as well off as others, but certainly not poor. i'm sure you didn't mean it in that way though

I'm confused about the whole metrocard thing. I know students should at least get a discounted rate for their cards, but why should they get them for free? Do these kids HAVE to use the subway to get to school? I know that the kids I see going to the private schools near my work on the subway are probably well off enough to buy a $90 metrocard a month. No one NEEDS a metrocard to get anywhere -- they're choosing to take the subway instead of walking.

The whole thing is stupid. I hate Bloomberg. I hate Paterson.

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I didn't think you were starting , not today!!

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She got you Britt

seriously....if they cut teachers

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

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Not 'poor' as in money, but 'poor' kids as in I feel bad for the kids who have to ride the bus or subway. They didn't even propose a reduced fare, but to cut the card altogether! You'd be surprised how many city kids (my daughter included) have to ride the trains and subways because they are too far to walk and no car in the family. I didn't think you were starting , not today!! It's just a bad deal all around for the city and I too cannot understand the logic of Patterson or Bloomberg

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thank godd

i agree! the card shouldn't be cut altogether but they should have to pay something. let's face it, everyone's economic situation is different but when you choose to live in the most expensive city in the country, you choose to incur the expensive costs of everyday living here, and that includes transportation. i pay over $300 a month to get to work, and when all is said and done at the end of the month, i have no money left over to do or buy anything for myself. meanwhile, kids are riding the subway for free everyday (and not only to get to school since they can be used until 8:30 p.m.) and i'm getting charged higher fares bc we need to close budget gaps?

instead of taking away jobs that the city NEEDS to keep people safe and healthy, how about fining people for illegally selling things on the street, or littering, or whatever else is possible.

on another point, i'm not trying to take anything away from haiti, it was a terrible tragedy and they deserve help from everyone who can give it. but if our country has states and cities that are hurting this badly, how can the federal government find BILLIONS of dollars (aside from the donations) to give? yes, i agree, the government should have given them some money, but BILLIONS when our own people are hurting?

sorry, i'm in a terrible mood about this whole thing

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Posted by brittndave

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Posted by MrsHazel2B

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Not 'poor' as in money, but 'poor' kids as in I feel bad for the kids who have to ride the bus or subway. They didn't even propose a reduced fare, but to cut the card altogether! You'd be surprised how many city kids (my daughter included) have to ride the trains and subways because they are too far to walk and no car in the family. I didn't think you were starting , not today!! It's just a bad deal all around for the city and I too cannot understand the logic of Patterson or Bloomberg

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thank godd

i agree! the card shouldn't be cut altogether but they should have to pay something. let's face it, everyone's economic situation is different but when you choose to live in the most expensive city in the country, you choose to incur the expensive costs of everyday living here, and that includes transportation. i pay over $300 a month to get to work, and when all is said and done at the end of the month, i have no money left over to do or buy anything for myself. meanwhile, kids are riding the subway for free everyday (and not only to get to school since they can be used until 8:30 p.m.) and i'm getting charged higher fares bc we need to close budget gaps?

instead of taking away jobs that the city NEEDS to keep people safe and healthy, how about fining people for illegally selling things on the street, or littering, or whatever else is possible.

on another point, i'm not trying to take anything away from haiti, it was a terrible tragedy and they deserve help from everyone who can give it. but if our country has states and cities that are hurting this badly, how can the federal government find BILLIONS of dollars (aside from the donations) to give? yes, i agree, the government should have given them some money, but BILLIONS when our own people are hurting?

sorry, i'm in a terrible mood about this whole thing

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I agree on the Haiti thing, 100%. I'm totally with you.

The kids though, get the use of MetroCards til 8:30 because of After school activities... which I think is good, it's incentive to keep them able to participate instead of hanging out doing nothing cause they can't figure out how to get home from practice/games/rehearsals and whatnot. And they don't all get them for free, it's income based, some are partially subsidized. They DO however, need to reevaluate the criteria I think, though.
And you're right about the fact that there are other ways they could find to pull money from. So much of the effort to raise revenue is misdirected.

Run for office, we'll vote for you

My FH is FDNY and this makes him oh so very mad.........I was with him when he went through probie school and the tests are based on FIRE and thats it. Its not all written either, there are drills etc they must pass.....

as for the poor thing...my FH makes over $100k but I don't think that's what was meant by poor...i apologize in advance for not reading the entire post; work is busy!

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Posted by JLWSJC

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I agree on the Haiti thing, 100%. I'm totally with you.

The kids though, get the use of MetroCards til 8:30 because of After school activities... which I think is good, it's incentive to keep them able to participate instead of hanging out doing nothing cause they can't figure out how to get home from practice/games/rehearsals and whatnot. And they don't all get them for free, it's income based, some are partially subsidized. They DO however, need to reevaluate the criteria I think, though.
And you're right about the fact that there are other ways they could find to pull money from. So much of the effort to raise revenue is misdirected.

Run for office, we'll vote for you

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yesssssssssss!!!! next election... look for my name

more cops and firefighters! less clothes!