this lady needs to be stoned

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by shell1879


oh my freaking GOD
HOW just HOW IN THE HECK could you NOT know your in labor

i'm sorry but.... OH YOU WILL KNOW WHEN YOUR ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH!!!!!!!!!!

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there was a show on TLC called 'i didnt know i was pregnant' or something like that. I saw it and it was crazy. One woman went to the hospital bc she had horrible stomach pains and they told her she was in labor but she said 'no i am not pregnant' she didnt know the entire time. It doesnt happen often obviously but there are rare cases and that was the only case, there were a few ladies on that show. As rare as it is it does happen sometimes. The doctors spoke about this and explained how its possible to not know you're pregnant. They still play this show on TLC so you can still catch this show

Also i dont think its unusual for women to confuse labor pains with something else. Its the same way women will automatically think its labor pains but then go to the hospital and its just gas. She went to the bathroom and said the baby came out and noticed only after she got up when she saw a foot and she tried to pull the baby out. The way the title is i thought she purposely flushed the baby down the toilet, which she didnt even do.

I have to say that i do know one woman personally who did have a baby while she was in the shower. My parents were over the house, she said she was gonna take a shower, and next thing you know she was calling for my mom and her older daughter bc she just gave birth. My dad was in complete shock when she walked out with the baby, he thought it was the craziest thing he has ever seen its been 10 years at least since this happened and my dad still tells this story as if it was yesterday bc he is still in shock about it this woman had 8 other kids, and i know after quite a few times it becomes alot easier each labor but wow didnt expect that. The baby was fine though in this situation, they called an ambulance right away and took both to the hospital

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but she said she knew

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yes i know, the same way the lady i know who gave birth in the shower knew she was pregnant, she went to take a shower bc she wasnt feeling great and to just wake up a little, she was only in the shower for a few mins not like she went through the whole big labor process, the baby came out in mins. She probably wasnt close to her due date and thought it was some other type of stomach pain. Thats why i mentioned that the pains can be confused, the same way women think they are in labor but meanwhile its just gas. They say she knew she was pregnant but didnt say she knew she was in labor. There are pregnant women whose water break and meanwhile they just think they peed themselves which ive heard more than once bc its not close to their due date so they dont think thats the case lol.

If she flushed the toilet then i would think she was crazy but she said she went to the bathroom bc she thought she had other stomach issues and when she looked she was a foot and tried her best to take the baby out. She never flushed the toilet.

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did the baby die denise?

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Posted by PoppedInASnap

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by shell1879


oh my freaking GOD
HOW just HOW IN THE HECK could you NOT know your in labor

i'm sorry but.... OH YOU WILL KNOW WHEN YOUR ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH!!!!!!!!!!

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there was a show on TLC called 'i didnt know i was pregnant' or something like that. I saw it and it was crazy. One woman went to the hospital bc she had horrible stomach pains and they told her she was in labor but she said 'no i am not pregnant' she didnt know the entire time. It doesnt happen often obviously but there are rare cases and that was the only case, there were a few ladies on that show. As rare as it is it does happen sometimes. The doctors spoke about this and explained how its possible to not know you're pregnant. They still play this show on TLC so you can still catch this show

Also i dont think its unusual for women to confuse labor pains with something else. Its the same way women will automatically think its labor pains but then go to the hospital and its just gas. She went to the bathroom and said the baby came out and noticed only after she got up when she saw a foot and she tried to pull the baby out. The way the title is i thought she purposely flushed the baby down the toilet, which she didnt even do.

I have to say that i do know one woman personally who did have a baby while she was in the shower. My parents were over the house, she said she was gonna take a shower, and next thing you know she was calling for my mom and her older daughter bc she just gave birth. My dad was in complete shock when she walked out with the baby, he thought it was the craziest thing he has ever seen its been 10 years at least since this happened and my dad still tells this story as if it was yesterday bc he is still in shock about it this woman had 8 other kids, and i know after quite a few times it becomes alot easier each labor but wow didnt expect that. The baby was fine though in this situation, they called an ambulance right away and took both to the hospital

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but she said she knew

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yes i know, the same way the lady i know who gave birth in the shower knew she was pregnant, she went to take a shower bc she wasnt feeling great and to just wake up a little, she was only in the shower for a few mins not like she went through the whole big labor process, the baby came out in mins. She probably wasnt close to her due date and thought it was some other type of stomach pain. Thats why i mentioned that the pains can be confused, the same way women think they are in labor but meanwhile its just gas. They say she knew she was pregnant but didnt say she knew she was in labor. There are pregnant women whose water break and meanwhile they just think they peed themselves which ive heard more than once bc its not close to their due date so they dont think thats the case lol.

If she flushed the toilet then i would think she was crazy but she said she went to the bathroom bc she thought she had other stomach issues and when she looked she was a foot and tried her best to take the baby out. She never flushed the toilet.

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did the baby die denise?

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which baby? in the article? yes unfortunately the baby died

if you mean the lady i know then no the baby was fine

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by PoppedInASnap

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by shell1879


oh my freaking GOD
HOW just HOW IN THE HECK could you NOT know your in labor

i'm sorry but.... OH YOU WILL KNOW WHEN YOUR ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH!!!!!!!!!!

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there was a show on TLC called 'i didnt know i was pregnant' or something like that. I saw it and it was crazy. One woman went to the hospital bc she had horrible stomach pains and they told her she was in labor but she said 'no i am not pregnant' she didnt know the entire time. It doesnt happen often obviously but there are rare cases and that was the only case, there were a few ladies on that show. As rare as it is it does happen sometimes. The doctors spoke about this and explained how its possible to not know you're pregnant. They still play this show on TLC so you can still catch this show

Also i dont think its unusual for women to confuse labor pains with something else. Its the same way women will automatically think its labor pains but then go to the hospital and its just gas. She went to the bathroom and said the baby came out and noticed only after she got up when she saw a foot and she tried to pull the baby out. The way the title is i thought she purposely flushed the baby down the toilet, which she didnt even do.

I have to say that i do know one woman personally who did have a baby while she was in the shower. My parents were over the house, she said she was gonna take a shower, and next thing you know she was calling for my mom and her older daughter bc she just gave birth. My dad was in complete shock when she walked out with the baby, he thought it was the craziest thing he has ever seen its been 10 years at least since this happened and my dad still tells this story as if it was yesterday bc he is still in shock about it this woman had 8 other kids, and i know after quite a few times it becomes alot easier each labor but wow didnt expect that. The baby was fine though in this situation, they called an ambulance right away and took both to the hospital

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but she said she knew

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yes i know, the same way the lady i know who gave birth in the shower knew she was pregnant, she went to take a shower bc she wasnt feeling great and to just wake up a little, she was only in the shower for a few mins not like she went through the whole big labor process, the baby came out in mins. She probably wasnt close to her due date and thought it was some other type of stomach pain. Thats why i mentioned that the pains can be confused, the same way women think they are in labor but meanwhile its just gas. They say she knew she was pregnant but didnt say she knew she was in labor. There are pregnant women whose water break and meanwhile they just think they peed themselves which ive heard more than once bc its not close to their due date so they dont think thats the case lol.

If she flushed the toilet then i would think she was crazy but she said she went to the bathroom bc she thought she had other stomach issues and when she looked she was a foot and tried her best to take the baby out. She never flushed the toilet.

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did the baby die denise?

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which baby? in the article? yes unfortunately the baby died

if you mean the lady i know then no the baby was fine

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OMG the baby in the article died!?!??!
Just read your post srry

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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But isn't everyone different?
My mom was pregnat with me AND my twin at the time and the only reason she went was because she thought she ate a bad fish sandwich from the diner.
She only had back pain and thought it was the poops... and then her water broke.
The same with my sister, she didn't really have contractions just cramps, and then her water broke. She said she had hardly any contractions it felt like the flu

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Posted by PoppedInASnap

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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But isn't everyone different?
My mom was pregnat with me AND my twin at the time and the only reason she went was because she thought she ate a bad fish sandwich from the diner.
She only had back pain and thought it was the poops... and then her water broke.
The same with my sister, she didn't really have contractions just cramps, and then her water broke. She said she had hardly any contractions it felt like the flu

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thats wat iam saying u dont stay home when u r prego with any type of pain even if they send u back home at least u know u are ok

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by PoppedInASnap

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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But isn't everyone different?
My mom was pregnat with me AND my twin at the time and the only reason she went was because she thought she ate a bad fish sandwich from the diner.
She only had back pain and thought it was the poops... and then her water broke.
The same with my sister, she didn't really have contractions just cramps, and then her water broke. She said she had hardly any contractions it felt like the flu

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thats wat iam saying u dont stay home when u r prego with any type of pain even if they send u back home at least u know u are ok

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so she knew she was pregnant? Oooo OKay i cant see the article...

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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I understand but remember what you went through with labor is not what everybody else goes through. Alot of women told me they felt like they had to poop, ive also read many things about this. Then you have some women who go through 30 hours of labor while others only go through 1-2 hours of labor. My mom wasnt in alot of pain during the labor.

So anytime a woman has to go number 2 while preggo she should go to the doctor? i dont think most women would do this. Maybe if youre very close to your due date or past your due date. But i think most women would just go to the bathroom. Lets say your 7 months pregnant, would you still go to the doctor each time you had to go number 2? We dont know from the article how many months pregnant this woman was. For all we know she couldve been 7 months so thats why it didnt cross her mind.

if the story is as she says then i feel bad for her. Lets say she wasnt anywhere near her due date, she felt she had to go number 2 and went quickly to the bathroom and next thing you know she looks down and sees a foot, that has to be pretty traumatic. But thats if the story in the article is true and as she says. She should'nt have put the baby in the car after, which is the reason why others are skeptical of her story. And if she is lying then the whole having to go to the bathroom thing is not even true and probably made that part up too. So either she really had to go to the bathroom and then this tragedy happened OR she lied about EVERYTHING! and mightve even given birth at home but maybe not even in the bathroom.

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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I understand but remember what you went through with labor is not what everybody else goes through. Alot of women told me they felt like they had to poop, ive also read many things about this. Then you have some women who go through 30 hours of labor while others only go through 1-2 hours of labor. My mom wasnt in alot of pain during the labor.

So anytime a woman has to go number 2 while preggo she should go to the doctor? i dont think most women would do this. Maybe if youre very close to your due date or past your due date. But i think most women would just go to the bathroom. Lets say your 7 months pregnant, would you still go to the doctor each time you had to go number 2? We dont know from the article how many months pregnant this woman was. For all we know she couldve been 7 months so thats why it didnt cross her mind.

if the story is as she says then i feel bad for her. Lets say she wasnt anywhere near her due date, she felt she had to go number 2 and went quickly to the bathroom and next thing you know she looks down and sees a foot, that has to be pretty traumatic. But thats if the story in the article is true and as she says. She should'nt have put the baby in the car after, which is the reason why others are skeptical of her story. And if she is lying then the whole having to go to the bathroom thing is not even true and probably made that part up too. So either she really had to go to the bathroom and then this tragedy happened OR she lied about EVERYTHING! and mightve even given birth at home but maybe not even in the bathroom.

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It makes me sad if she did it on purpose. Fh and I are speaking to a fertility doctor for me and in my head, anyone who is blessed to be able to have a child should feel blessed. There are way too many stories about people throwing their newborn into the trash. Why not give it to a church or the poliece? I just, I don't get it. I see the children in my class who are adopted and I think 'Thank god someone got them'... It makes me very emotional...

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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I understand but remember what you went through with labor is not what everybody else goes through. Alot of women told me they felt like they had to poop, ive also read many things about this. Then you have some women who go through 30 hours of labor while others only go through 1-2 hours of labor. My mom wasnt in alot of pain during the labor.

So anytime a woman has to go number 2 while preggo she should go to the doctor? i dont think most women would do this. Maybe if youre very close to your due date or past your due date. But i think most women would just go to the bathroom. Lets say your 7 months pregnant, would you still go to the doctor each time you had to go number 2? We dont know from the article how many months pregnant this woman was. For all we know she couldve been 7 months so thats why it didnt cross her mind.

if the story is as she says then i feel bad for her. Lets say she wasnt anywhere near her due date, she felt she had to go number 2 and went quickly to the bathroom and next thing you know she looks down and sees a foot, that has to be pretty traumatic. But thats if the story in the article is true and as she says. She should'nt have put the baby in the car after, which is the reason why others are skeptical of her story. And if she is lying then the whole having to go to the bathroom thing is not even true and probably made that part up too. So either she really had to go to the bathroom and then this tragedy happened OR she lied about EVERYTHING! and mightve even given birth at home but maybe not even in the bathroom.

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iam not saying go to the doctor when ever u have to do a # 2 iam saying when u have pains like diarhrea u should go

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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I understand but remember what you went through with labor is not what everybody else goes through. Alot of women told me they felt like they had to poop, ive also read many things about this. Then you have some women who go through 30 hours of labor while others only go through 1-2 hours of labor. My mom wasnt in alot of pain during the labor.

So anytime a woman has to go number 2 while preggo she should go to the doctor? i dont think most women would do this. Maybe if youre very close to your due date or past your due date. But i think most women would just go to the bathroom. Lets say your 7 months pregnant, would you still go to the doctor each time you had to go number 2? We dont know from the article how many months pregnant this woman was. For all we know she couldve been 7 months so thats why it didnt cross her mind.

if the story is as she says then i feel bad for her. Lets say she wasnt anywhere near her due date, she felt she had to go number 2 and went quickly to the bathroom and next thing you know she looks down and sees a foot, that has to be pretty traumatic. But thats if the story in the article is true and as she says. She should'nt have put the baby in the car after, which is the reason why others are skeptical of her story. And if she is lying then the whole having to go to the bathroom thing is not even true and probably made that part up too. So either she really had to go to the bathroom and then this tragedy happened OR she lied about EVERYTHING! and mightve even given birth at home but maybe not even in the bathroom.

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iam not saying go to the doctor when ever u have to do a # 2 iam saying when u have pains like diarhrea u should go

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I dont think theres enough in the article to determine what happened. We dont know how many months pregnant she was. And if its diarrhea unfortunately for many once it hits you have to RUSH to the bathroom and dont even have time to make it to the doctor. So maybe she was planning on it but rushed to the bathroom bc when you have diarrhea and you gotta go then you gotta go, and it can hit out of nowhere and you have to go right then and there.

Like i said, if she is lying then i think she made up the whole diarrhea thing too and just that all of that was a lie. The article is only a few short lines and doesnt give really any info. So i dont want to call somebody a baby killer without knowing more facts and just by those few short lines. I am not saying she is not a baby killer, but like i said, then i think if thats the case the whole entire story is a lie.

You would be surprised how some women react to things when they are pregnant. This weekend dh and i stayed over a friends house. The wife was on the phone with her friend urging her to go to the doctor. The friend of hers said she thinks she peed in her sleep, bc she has no cramps or no pain at all and if she was in labor and her water did break then she would feel it. Our friend was urging this girl to just go and not take a chance and couldnt understand how you wouldnt go to the doctor just to make sure. But her friend said she was gonna wait a little bit to see what happens. Even I was surprised and said, well if youre close to your due date which she was, then i would go and not take that chance bc you just don't know. She said even all her other friends kept calling this girl to try and convince that it was her water that broke and if so then she has 24 hours to get to the hospital bc otherwise the baby is at risk of infections that long after a water breaks.

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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I understand but remember what you went through with labor is not what everybody else goes through. Alot of women told me they felt like they had to poop, ive also read many things about this. Then you have some women who go through 30 hours of labor while others only go through 1-2 hours of labor. My mom wasnt in alot of pain during the labor.

So anytime a woman has to go number 2 while preggo she should go to the doctor? i dont think most women would do this. Maybe if youre very close to your due date or past your due date. But i think most women would just go to the bathroom. Lets say your 7 months pregnant, would you still go to the doctor each time you had to go number 2? We dont know from the article how many months pregnant this woman was. For all we know she couldve been 7 months so thats why it didnt cross her mind.

if the story is as she says then i feel bad for her. Lets say she wasnt anywhere near her due date, she felt she had to go number 2 and went quickly to the bathroom and next thing you know she looks down and sees a foot, that has to be pretty traumatic. But thats if the story in the article is true and as she says. She should'nt have put the baby in the car after, which is the reason why others are skeptical of her story. And if she is lying then the whole having to go to the bathroom thing is not even true and probably made that part up too. So either she really had to go to the bathroom and then this tragedy happened OR she lied about EVERYTHING! and mightve even given birth at home but maybe not even in the bathroom.

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iam not saying go to the doctor when ever u have to do a # 2 iam saying when u have pains like diarhrea u should go

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I dont think theres enough in the article to determine what happened. We dont know how many months pregnant she was. And if its diarrhea unfortunately for many once it hits you have to RUSH to the bathroom and dont even have time to make it to the doctor. So maybe she was planning on it but rushed to the bathroom bc when you have diarrhea and you gotta go then you gotta go, and it can hit out of nowhere and you have to go right then and there.

Like i said, if she is lying then i think she made up the whole diarrhea thing too and just that all of that was a lie. The article is only a few short lines and doesnt give really any info. So i dont want to call somebody a baby killer without knowing more facts and just by those few short lines. I am not saying she is not a baby killer, but like i said, then i think if thats the case the whole entire story is a lie.

You would be surprised how some women react to things when they are pregnant. This weekend dh and i stayed over a friends house. The wife was on the phone with her friend urging her to go to the doctor. The friend of hers said she thinks she peed in her sleep, bc she has no cramps or no pain at all and if she was in labor and her water did break then she would feel it. Our friend was urging this girl to just go and not take a chance and couldnt understand how you wouldnt go to the doctor just to make sure. But her friend said she was gonna wait a little bit to see what happens. Even I was surprised and said, well if youre close to your due date which she was, then i would go and not take that chance bc you just don't know. She said even all her other friends kept calling this girl to try and convince that it was her water that broke and if so then she has 24 hours to get to the hospital bc otherwise the baby is at risk of infections that long after a water breaks.

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lets just say that what u are saying is right y would she leave the baby in the car to get corroded (i know i spelled it wrong)

ok i didnt read this whole article, but all i have to say is when you give birth it DOES feel like youre taking a crap!! lol

the best advice i got from someone before giving birth was, 'push like youre taking a crap'....it WORKS, because thats exactly how youll feel...

so im guessing , she thought she wa shaving a bowel movement and it was a baby? i can kind of understand this just because it feels exactlyyyyyy the same......if he purposely flushed the toliet knowing a baby was there then shes crazy

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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I understand but remember what you went through with labor is not what everybody else goes through. Alot of women told me they felt like they had to poop, ive also read many things about this. Then you have some women who go through 30 hours of labor while others only go through 1-2 hours of labor. My mom wasnt in alot of pain during the labor.

So anytime a woman has to go number 2 while preggo she should go to the doctor? i dont think most women would do this. Maybe if youre very close to your due date or past your due date. But i think most women would just go to the bathroom. Lets say your 7 months pregnant, would you still go to the doctor each time you had to go number 2? We dont know from the article how many months pregnant this woman was. For all we know she couldve been 7 months so thats why it didnt cross her mind.

if the story is as she says then i feel bad for her. Lets say she wasnt anywhere near her due date, she felt she had to go number 2 and went quickly to the bathroom and next thing you know she looks down and sees a foot, that has to be pretty traumatic. But thats if the story in the article is true and as she says. She should'nt have put the baby in the car after, which is the reason why others are skeptical of her story. And if she is lying then the whole having to go to the bathroom thing is not even true and probably made that part up too. So either she really had to go to the bathroom and then this tragedy happened OR she lied about EVERYTHING! and mightve even given birth at home but maybe not even in the bathroom.

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iam not saying go to the doctor when ever u have to do a # 2 iam saying when u have pains like diarhrea u should go

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? when you have diahrrea go to the doctor?

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Posted by meli722

ok i didnt read this whole article, but all i have to say is when you give birth it DOES feel like youre taking a crap!! lol

the best advice i got from someone before giving birth was, 'push like youre taking a crap'....it WORKS, because thats exactly how youll feel...

so im guessing , she thought she wa shaving a bowel movement and it was a baby? i can kind of understand this just because it feels exactlyyyyyy the same......if he purposely flushed the toliet knowing a baby was there then shes crazy

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well for me it didnt fell like that and u are not suppose to push like u are doing a #2 bc u can hurt yourself

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Posted by Espo22

I think its more likely she lied about the whole entire thing and made up that she thought she just had to go to the bathroom.

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she probably gave birht on her own, then made up the thing about the toliet incident

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Posted by meli722

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Posted by jayepyt

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Posted by Espo22

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Posted by jayepyt

it also said the baby was coroded so she left the baby there and i know when your in labor for me it didnt feel like i had to poop......and i had pain everywhere not just my stomach also if u feel like u have diarreha u should go to the doctor if u are prego

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I understand but remember what you went through with labor is not what everybody else goes through. Alot of women told me they felt like they had to poop, ive also read many things about this. Then you have some women who go through 30 hours of labor while others only go through 1-2 hours of labor. My mom wasnt in alot of pain during the labor.

So anytime a woman has to go number 2 while preggo she should go to the doctor? i dont think most women would do this. Maybe if youre very close to your due date or past your due date. But i think most women would just go to the bathroom. Lets say your 7 months pregnant, would you still go to the doctor each time you had to go number 2? We dont know from the article how many months pregnant this woman was. For all we know she couldve been 7 months so thats why it didnt cross her mind.

if the story is as she says then i feel bad for her. Lets say she wasnt anywhere near her due date, she felt she had to go number 2 and went quickly to the bathroom and next thing you know she looks down and sees a foot, that has to be pretty traumatic. But thats if the story in the article is true and as she says. She should'nt have put the baby in the car after, which is the reason why others are skeptical of her story. And if she is lying then the whole having to go to the bathroom thing is not even true and probably made that part up too. So either she really had to go to the bathroom and then this tragedy happened OR she lied about EVERYTHING! and mightve even given birth at home but maybe not even in the bathroom.

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iam not saying go to the doctor when ever u have to do a # 2 iam saying when u have pains like diarhrea u should go

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? when you have diahrrea go to the doctor?

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when u are prego

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Posted by meli722

ok i didnt read this whole article, but all i have to say is when you give birth it DOES feel like youre taking a crap!! lol

the best advice i got from someone before giving birth was, 'push like youre taking a crap'....it WORKS, because thats exactly how youll feel...

so im guessing , she thought she wa shaving a bowel movement and it was a baby? i can kind of understand this just because it feels exactlyyyyyy the same......if he purposely flushed the toliet knowing a baby was there then shes crazy

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well for me it didnt fell like that and u are not suppose to push like u are doing a #2 bc u can hurt yourself

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nope, it really works, and you have sooooo much pressure down there, youll feel like youre taking one....most people i know that have given birth have said thats how they felt, its so much pressure in that area, thats how it feels when you really have to use the bathroom