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the afterlife

Original post by soon2bmrsVPT

Vin & his brother are discussing death and our belief of what comes next...


lets discuss.. what do YOU believe? Is there a heaven? Is there a hell?

I am not putting in my 2 cents yet.. feel free.. discuss.......................
Aug07OFCbride Posted:

Re: the afterlife


Posted by jtgarsik


I actually LOVE going to church. I've found a place where there is no judgement, I dont need to report or confess my sins to anyone or be shunned upon if 'i do something wrong.'...on top of that it's entirely encouraging, i've found a family there, and the music is just awesome...feel like i'm at a concert We are simply a body of believers who love our amazing God that we serve. I never feel like I HAVE to go to church... There are sundays when I have other things, or i'm sick & can't make it, even sometimes DH & i just accidently sleep in, etc...and that's fine - because yes, God knows our hearts...but I WANT to go ...I want to go because it's honoring Him for blessing me with everything that i have & for the trials that i've been through that have made me stronger...it's about WANTING to be obedient to Him. I have been to churches where I've gotten a bad taste in my mouth & gotten totally turned off...unfortunately there are way to many of these churches & these kinds of christians...but if ur heart wants it, there are some amazing churches with amazing people out there. I know my God loves me just the way I am....my sins are between me & him and THAT'S IT..and that's the same for everyone else. I dont judge anyone, and I dont expect anyone to judge me...and my church has the same standards....it's filled with people from all different walks of life.... i just love it there



You could have been talking about my church and experience of it!

PreshusSmurf Posted:

Re: the afterlife

I know this is an old post, but I never responded. And my DH was just talking about this with his friends, which reminded me that I hadn't responded

I thought it would be important for me to respond, because I think that only the Christian/Catholic side of the discussion is represented here.

So, here's some thoughts from one of the token Jews on this site

Since I was having trouble articulating my thoughts, I decided to see if I could find a website to explain it better. I found this:


http://www.jewfaq.org/olamhaba.htm


* Traditional Judaism firmly believes that death is not the end of human existence. However, because Judaism is primarily focused on life here and now rather than on the afterlife, Judaism does not have much dogma about the afterlife, and leaves a great deal of room for personal opinion.

* It is true that the Torah emphasizes immediate, concrete, physical rewards and punishments rather than abstract future ones. However, there is clear evidence in the Torah of belief in existence after death. The Torah indicates in several places that the righteous will be reunited with their loved ones after death, while the wicked will be excluded from this reunion.

* The resurrection of the dead will occur in the messianic age, a time referred to in Hebrew as the Olam Ha-Ba, the World to Come, but that term is also used to refer to the spiritual afterlife. When the messiah comes to initiate the perfect world of peace and prosperity, the righteous dead will be brought back to life and given the opportunity to experience the perfected world that their righteousness helped to create. The wicked dead will not be resurrected.

* According to one mystical view, every sin we commit creates an angel of destruction (a demon), and after we die we are punished by the very demons that we created. Some views see Gehinnom as one of severe punishment, a bit like the Christian Hell of fire and brimstone. Other sources merely see it as a time when we can see the actions of our lives objectively, see the harm that we have done and the opportunities we missed, and experience remorse for our actions. The period of time in Gehinnom does not exceed 12 months, and then ascends to take his place on Olam Ha-Ba.

I'll also add that two of my Aunts strongly believe that their parents come to visit them in the form of birds outside their window. Mom also thought that our dog, Valentine, used to come visit her in the form of a bird outside the bathroom window ... it was the same bird that appeared every morning for a very long time right after we had to put her to sleep. I think that idea helped her get through the mourning stage a bit easier.

And growing up I think I was taught that when people die they go to 'be with G-d' ... that 'G-d needed their help, and that's why he took them' ... and that they go to 'a better place.' I don't know if its really the same as the Christian/Catholic/Commercialized version of Heaven though. But at the same time, I also think our belief in Hell is a little different than the Christian/Catholic/Commercialized version.
SusiBtoM Posted:

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Jess,
Thank you for posting the Jewish version of the afterlife.
A lot of similarities.
Bridelikewhoa07 Posted:

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I believe in God...and def some sort of afterlife...dunno if its really the 'cliche' of heaven we are told to believe in when we are younger....

spirits are defintely all around us...especially those of our loved ones....

i go to a medium regularly...hes great...a truly amazing person..and hes not just doing it to make money or be a jerk..he is SO genuine...in fact, if he can't 'connect' with anyone for you he doesnt charge you any money....

he's truly amazing. you can FM me for more details.


his website is

www.sacredmessages.com

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