I'm hoping this wont spiral out of control, but I just saw a commercial for the show about a 500 lbs man immediately followed by one for bowflex and it made me think...
Do you think everyone has the potential to be thin? I don't mean a size 0, but not overweight and not obese.
Edit: to clarify, then I say 'thin' i mean a healthy weight. I do not mean a size 0 or 2, that would obviously depend on your body type.
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I think that people can do it if they really try. How about that show 'the biggest loser' Look at how they look at the end of the show. It's amazing! For some i think it's easier then others...and its hard work. If you actually hear how some of the 'movie stars' lose the weight its' amazing. They restrict their diet amazingly and work out like 2-3 times a day. Now a normal person couldn't do that but with effort I think it's definitely possible.
that show really is great! i'm not sure when its on but i caught the finale one season and i was amazed by their progress
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its a really hard question.... many factors play into our size:
1. genetics, obviously our bone structure and so many other things 'run in the family'
2. upbringing, a family with active and fit parents vs a inactive and not fit parents
3. heritage, some family traditions include huge family meals, which are usually not healthy or lower calorie
4. income, a poor family will eat more affordable, and sometimes less healthy foods
5. life style and/or career, a sedentary worker vs a physical laborer will play a part
6. lastly, or own drive to be health..... i think this is the most important thing, it is easy and sit back and do nothing and assume your cards have been dealt or you can get up off your rump and start to do something about it....
examples: park at the end of the lot, start slowly adding walking to your everyday activities makes a huge difference eat a side salad instead of fries eat in instead of out every night
i think if you truly want to be healthy you will make the changes necessary to get there.
i started dieting and working out about 2 years ago and lost over 40lbs
sorry this is so long, just how i feel.....
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There are people near and dear to me who do complain, complain, complain about their weight and do nothing.. they have no one to blame but them selves. I was once in that boat in my early highschool years, becasue I was fustrated that what I was already doing was not working.. so nutritionist and doctors help was needed and still they only accounted for 18Lbs coming off in almost a year. That is so hard to deal with especially when you are doing EVERYTHING they tell you, including a trainer and gym!
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I've seen both sides. Those who do try very hard and dont have great results. But I have also seen those who do complain all the time about the weight but at the same time will turn around the next second and eat so much greasy and heavy food. Even if they get sick from the food continue to eat for those few minutes of pleasure. I will not comment on all overweight people because it is on an individual basis. But if you're overweight and not doing anything about it at all, no effort and continue eating very badly then of course you won't get thinner. Not that you have to get thin because ideal weight is different for everybody.
I had gained alot of weight a few years ago and honestly there was nobody to blame but me. I would eat pasta almost everyday, eating cheeseburgers and drink TONS of soda a day. Just soda they say accounts for at least 10 of your extra pounds and cutting just that out willmake a big difference and ive done that and noticed the difference. When i gained weight, i did the same thing i would complain about it but then a few minutes later i was stuffing my face. My mom would always laugh at me saying 'didn't you just complain about your weight and now you're eating that' It did get to a point where i decided to just change my whole lifestyle. You do have to give 100%, stick to eating very healthy, and have to get your mind to think like that too.
my moms best friend was big most of her life. She did everything to lose weight, ended up being that she had a thyroid problem. She had the surgery and you know what did get to a point where she was thin, she was a person who did think that she would never get that small
you saved me from writing I agree with this 100% and I can so relate
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Posted by zoe282
I think that people can do it if they really try. How about that show 'the biggest loser' Look at how they look at the end of the show. It's amazing! For some i think it's easier then others...and its hard work. If you actually hear how some of the 'movie stars' lose the weight its' amazing. They restrict their diet amazingly and work out like 2-3 times a day. Now a normal person couldn't do that but with effort I think it's definitely possible.
that show really is great! i'm not sure when its on but i caught the finale one season and i was amazed by their progress
It was on tuesday nights. It will be on again in the fall. It is amazing when you watch how much they all lose. The winner this yeare was that girl and she looked amazing!!! It was hard work and I am sure she will put some back on...but she actually got sent him early on and lost a whole bunch on her own at home which says alot and shows how someone could really do it
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I dunno... I see people that are grossly overweight and claim they eat barely anything but don't lose... there HAS to be either 1) a physiological problem 2) they have to be mistaken about what they're taking in. I refuse to believe that someone can eat 1500 calories, workout 4 times a week, and NOT be at a healthy weight (unless they have a medical condition)
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There are people near and dear to me who do complain, complain, complain about their weight and do nothing.. they have no one to blame but them selves. I was once in that boat in my early highschool years, becasue I was fustrated that what I was already doing was not working.. so nutritionist and doctors help was needed and still they only accounted for 18Lbs coming off in almost a year. That is so hard to deal with especially when you are doing EVERYTHING they tell you, including a trainer and gym!
For some it definitely can be alot harder for some, i have heard of many cases like this. Did they ever say why if youre working out and eating healthy how come the weight isn't coming off? usually there is a reason for it, i remember watching a show on this. Then theres also the possibility of a thyroid problem which seems to come up alot. It must be frustrating when you are trying everything and its not working, there has to be a reason though and maybe a solution they can come up with.
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I dunno... I see people that are grossly overweight and claim they eat barely anything but don't lose... there HAS to be either 1) a physiological problem 2) they have to be mistaken about what they're taking in. I refuse to believe that someone can eat 1500 calories, workout 4 times a week, and NOT be at a healthy weight (unless they have a medical condition)
i agree
i also thought that its not true about being 'big boned' - like people say they are bigger because they are 'big boned' - but really there is no such thing - i thought i read that for the most part bones are all the same size? like i am 5 feet tall so my bones are just about the same size as everyone else who is 5 feet tall whether they are 90lbs or 150lbs? at least that whats i thought i read from a medical article that dismissed 'big bones'
Kimbalina
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I think it is about genes and the weight that your frame will carry and will not just lose
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kim god bless you for accomplishing that this is a very emotional topic for me as well I lost over 50llbs and never thought I could be the built I am today- you look absolutely amazing
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hhmmm.... I think it has a lot to do with where you start just as a lot of you have said. I have been overweight my entire life - I have tried every diet imaginable..I lost about 50lbs once on WW then my dad died and I ate to 'fill the void' then I lost it again, quit smoking and gained it all back. I joined ww a few weeks ago and hope it works again
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Kim 170 is alot to lose
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i think it really depends on the individual. i know for myself, it will be very very hard to ever be 'thin'. i was heavy for most of my life, then about 5 years ago joined WW for the first time. that first time around i lost about 30 lbs, all just by dieting alone, i did some exercise, but it was minimal. i stopped going when i got to a weight where i was comfortable. i was not thin, and my BMI still said i was 'obese'. two years ago i joined WW again, and did diet and gym, lost another 25 lbs. i was at my goal weight, had a healthy BMI, but i was still not thin. my body type will always have me being a thicker girl, no matter how hard i work out and eat right. i will always have a gut, big thighs, big arms. however, even now after gaining 15 lbs back, i am still overall much healthier than i was 5 years ago. my cholestoral is great, i can go up and down stairs without gasping for air. although i don't necessarily agree that everyone can be thin, i do think that everyone has the power to make themselves as healthy as possible.
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i also thought that its not true about being 'big boned' - like people say they are bigger because they are 'big boned' - but really there is no such thing - i thought i read that for the most part bones are all the same size? like i am 5 feet tall so my bones are just about the same size as everyone else who is 5 feet tall whether they are 90lbs or 150lbs? at least that whats i thought i read from a medical article that dismissed 'big bones'
i think the idea of being 'big boned' isn't really about the size of the bones--its about your frame and height.
I do think frame size has something to do with it, b/c I think that I'm built wider than other girls my height, and I could probably never be a size 2 just b/c of the circumfrance of my hips or what not...
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i think it really depends on the individual. i know for myself, it will be very very hard to ever be 'thin'. i was heavy for most of my life, then about 5 years ago joined WW for the first time. that first time around i lost about 30 lbs, all just by dieting alone, i did some exercise, but it was minimal. i stopped going when i got to a weight where i was comfortable. i was not thin, and my BMI still said i was 'obese'. two years ago i joined WW again, and did diet and gym, lost another 25 lbs. i was at my goal weight, had a healthy BMI, but i was still not thin. my body type will always have me being a thicker girl, no matter how hard i work out and eat right. i will always have a gut, big thighs, big arms. however, even now after gaining 15 lbs back, i am still overall much healthier than i was 5 years ago. my cholestoral is great, i can go up and down stairs without gasping for air. although i don't necessarily agree that everyone can be thin, i do think that everyone has the power to make themselves as healthy as possible.
i think that is perfectly said - 'everyone has the power to make themselves as healthy as possible' so no matter what weight you are or what size clothes you wear you should still make healthy choices and still exercise and be healthy - which is more important than what size clothes you wear
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I think that i am looking at this question more on a broader side. I see a lot of girls saying 20-50 lbs can be lost and i agree,. but when you have hundreds to lose in order to be a thin person.. it seems more desolate to get there.
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Posted by mariaobride
kim god bless you for accomplishing that this is a very emotional topic for me as well I lost over 50llbs and never thought I could be the built I am today- you look absolutely amazing
Thank you!
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i think that is perfectly said - 'everyone has the power to make themselves as healthy as possible' so no matter what weight you are or what size clothes you wear you should still make healthy choices and still exercise and be healthy - which is more important than what size clothes you wear