On Tuesday night DH and I learned that Emary had a very very severe case of Round Worms and Tape Worms which NSAL failed to inform us of when we adopted her (Yes, they knew about it....they checked her medical records and they had it on file but never informed us). We have another dog in the house who may have been exposed to it AND worse, round worm is contagious to humans if the dog licks your mouth. Well....the dog had been licking my mouth ALL week long. DH tried so hard not to be grossed out by it, but he literally couldnt even touch the dog for the past 2 days. This might be TMI, but she literally had worms falling out of her butt onto our floor yesterday. Her Kennel cough had gotten worse since we brought her home and she started peeing on the floor out of spite. We called our vet and he suggested I go to my doctor to be checked for round worm. He also told us to keep her far away from the other dog.
Last night when DH came home we had a long talk and he said that if he had known she had parasites we would never have taken her home. We love her to death but for some reason, this is just one of those things where it makes you not want to even touch the dog -- and you cannot have a puppy that you cant touch... she can sense the change in us. The vet said it would last at least another week or two before everything was completely taken care of.
We took her back to NSAL last night. We both cried so much and feel SO horrible. Its been an emotional roller coaster and I absolutely hate myself for having to take her back. Not to mention, we got attached to her and now we feel like we never want to adopt another dog for fear of something like this happeneing again. I've always hated people who adopt and then return dogs, thinking they dont care about the dogs....but we DO care. We love her soooo much, but we also know that with the worms and kennel cough, and the amount we're at work, we cant give her the attention and care she needs. She needs to be carefully watched constantly -- the kennel cough is turning into pneumonia and she could get very sick. DH is heart-broken right now, but more than anything he is SO mad at NSAL for not disclosing the fact that she had such a severe case of worms. Like I said, had they told us, we wouldnt have adopted her....which would have saved her and us from this whole experience. I know someone else will adopt her soon -- she's just too cute not to. But I cant help having such a sick, terrible feeling. We cried for HOURS yesterday and came home to an empty crate with her toys on the floor. I hate to close up the crate and move it into the closet -- I couldnt even look at it without crying.
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I am very sorry this happened to you. My family had a similar experience with NSAL when I was a kid. We had adopted a kitten from there and he had some kind of eye infection. NSAL said it was no big deal, they gave us eyedrops and said he would be fine in a few days. Well this kitten was totally lethargic, never played, was very sick. His eye didn't get better in a few days. We took him to our vet and found out he had a very serious infection and needed round-the-clock care. My family couldn't afford to pay the thousands in vet bills that this would incur and we brought him back to NSAL for advice. They were very nasty and didn't offer to hep us at all. We had to give the kitten back to them, sign something saying we returned him to them in 100% perfect health and were banned from adopting from them ever again.
I know NSAL does a lot of good for animals, but personally I don't like them. I don't feel they are honest about their animals and are very unsympathetic towards people's various situations.
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I am very sorry this happened to you. My family had a similar experience with NSAL when I was a kid. We had adopted a kitten from there and he had some kind of eye infection. NSAL said it was no big deal, they gave us eyedrops and said he would be fine in a few days. Well this kitten was totally lethargic, never played, was very sick. His eye didn't get better in a few days. We took him to our vet and found out he had a very serious infection and needed round-the-clock care. My family couldn't afford to pay the thousands in vet bills that this would incur and we brought him back to NSAL for advice. They were very nasty and didn't offer to hep us at all. We had to give the kitten back to them, sign something saying we returned him to them in 100% perfect health and were banned from adopting from them ever again.
I know NSAL does a lot of good for animals, but personally I don't like them. I don't feel they are honest about their animals and are very unsympathetic towards people's various situations.
Yea when we brought her back last night they were SO nasty to us. They told us we should have known she had worms and its not their fault for not telling us We had to sign a form saying we were giving up all rights to her and that we cant ever adopt from them again (which is fine....we werent going to after this experience) but it was heartbreaking to give her back. They didnt let us say goodbye to her either Maybe that was for the best though....
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OMG Jenn I am soooo very sorry. You and your poor DH...that had to be so tough for you. I can only imagine. My thoughts are with you guys!
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I am very sorry this happened to you. My family had a similar experience with NSAL when I was a kid. We had adopted a kitten from there and he had some kind of eye infection. NSAL said it was no big deal, they gave us eyedrops and said he would be fine in a few days. Well this kitten was totally lethargic, never played, was very sick. His eye didn't get better in a few days. We took him to our vet and found out he had a very serious infection and needed round-the-clock care. My family couldn't afford to pay the thousands in vet bills that this would incur and we brought him back to NSAL for advice. They were very nasty and didn't offer to hep us at all. We had to give the kitten back to them, sign something saying we returned him to them in 100% perfect health and were banned from adopting from them ever again.
I know NSAL does a lot of good for animals, but personally I don't like them. I don't feel they are honest about their animals and are very unsympathetic towards people's various situations.
Yea when we brought her back last night they were SO nasty to us. They told us we should have known she had worms and its not their fault for not telling us We had to sign a form saying we were giving up all rights to her and that we cant ever adopt from them again (which is fine....we werent going to after this experience) but it was heartbreaking to give her back. They didnt let us say goodbye to her either Maybe that was for the best though....
Yes and imagine them doing that when there is a 10 year old kid standing there crying hysterically (like I was when this happened to me). I don't understand why they can't offer to use their vets to help nurse these animals back to health at a reduced price... it would be a big help to many people.
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Jenn I am sorry-they shouldh ave told you-regardless of anything else. Dont be too hard on yourself, as I agree with the poster above-puppies are like children you cant always give them back-but I know how excited you were to get her and how excited you were when you finally got her home. Im sorry you are going thru this
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I am very sorry this happened to you. My family had a similar experience with NSAL when I was a kid. We had adopted a kitten from there and he had some kind of eye infection. NSAL said it was no big deal, they gave us eyedrops and said he would be fine in a few days. Well this kitten was totally lethargic, never played, was very sick. His eye didn't get better in a few days. We took him to our vet and found out he had a very serious infection and needed round-the-clock care. My family couldn't afford to pay the thousands in vet bills that this would incur and we brought him back to NSAL for advice. They were very nasty and didn't offer to hep us at all. We had to give the kitten back to them, sign something saying we returned him to them in 100% perfect health and were banned from adopting from them ever again.
I know NSAL does a lot of good for animals, but personally I don't like them. I don't feel they are honest about their animals and are very unsympathetic towards people's various situations.
Yea when we brought her back last night they were SO nasty to us. They told us we should have known she had worms and its not their fault for not telling us We had to sign a form saying we were giving up all rights to her and that we cant ever adopt from them again (which is fine....we werent going to after this experience) but it was heartbreaking to give her back. They didnt let us say goodbye to her either Maybe that was for the best though....
Yes and imagine them doing that when there is a 10 year old kid standing there crying hysterically (like I was when this happened to me). I don't understand why they can't offer to use their vets to help nurse these animals back to health at a reduced price... it would be a big help to many people.
i dont know either. If they offered a service where they could board the animals and nurse them back to health for a reduced price we would have never given her back. I dont think they are a bad organization but I do think that sometimes their intentions arent the best. They're more concerned with getting the dogs off their hands. Some of these illnesses that the animals have are treatable right away....but they dont treat them until they are about to be adopted.....which means that it gets very bad. And then they dont tell the adopters the whole truth. My vet said that she had these worms for at least a week prior to adoption. But she wasnt given the dewormer until the day we adopted her An infestation of worms can KILL a dog in as little as 4 days. i just wish we had knwn all this before we went there. But I guess some things you have to learn through experience.
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is there any way that they can treat the dog, and then you can get her back? After all, you do want the dog, and they withheld this information. Can they get her treated/taken care of and then let you have her back?
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is there any way that they can treat the dog, and then you can get her back? After all, you do want the dog, and they withheld this information. Can they get her treated/taken care of and then let you have her back?
I was wondering the same thing..maybe you could call and speak to someone about that...
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is there any way that they can treat the dog, and then you can get her back? After all, you do want the dog, and they withheld this information. Can they get her treated/taken care of and then let you have her back?
I was wondering the same thing..maybe you could call and speak to someone about that...
At this point I doubt NSAL will do that. They werent very receptive to us when we tried to speak to them even about treatment. And since we signed her over already and arent allowed to adopt from them again I dont think there is anything we can do.
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OH GOD!!! I am sooo sorry to hear that Jenn... All I can offer are some
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Rudy is a NSAL dog. He had worms when we got him. It was marked on his cage. They gave us his medicine.
I bonded with him RIGHT AWAY. I don't understand why you couldn't just give her the medication. That poor puppy
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Could treatment have been covered by pet insurance, which you get for a month or so when you adopt? I understand this was a hard decision, but I just adopted the best dog in the world from NSAL, and other people I know have adopted great pets as well, so hearing people bash the place really annoys me. My dog was there for 4 months, only because he is missing a leg, and the people there CRIED when we took him because they were so happy to see him go home. Those are so CARING people. I also understand than when other pets are thrown in the mix, it complicates things, but I don't know, my dog is my family, I would sacrifice a lot for him...
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why couldnt you take her to the vet? I wouldnt ahve broguth her back to NSAL....
I agree...she needed you to help her
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Rudy is a NSAL dog. He had worms when we got him. It was marked on his cage. They gave us his medicine.
I bonded with him RIGHT AWAY. I don't understand why you couldn't just give her the medication. That poor puppy
ugh, I agree
And I am saying this with all my heart...you COULD have helped her, you CHOSE not too....The only one I feel bad for is that poor dog
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Rudy is a NSAL dog. He had worms when we got him. It was marked on his cage. They gave us his medicine.
I bonded with him RIGHT AWAY. I don't understand why you couldn't just give her the medication. That poor puppy
ugh, I agree
And I am saying this with all my heart...you COULD have helped her, you CHOSE not too....The only one I feel bad for is that poor dog
When you adopted your dog from NSAL it was MARKED ON THE CAGE that he had worms. They intentionally did not tell us she had them KNOWING that they type she had was contagious to humans. It wasnt marked on her cage and we got no medication. We also dont live in LI, so driving back and forth to their vet was not an option for us. We spoke with our own vet and we were very aware of the money and time it was going to take for us to treat her. You're right -- we chose not to treat her. Unfortunatelty, spending over $1000 to board her at the vet's for over aweekuntil she was no longer contagious to us and our other dog was NOT within our budget. And NSAL only covers up to $500 of the costs. Had we been TOLD by nsal about it from the beginning, we would have known not to even bother bringing her home. Sorry, but NSAL is not the a very good organization. There are plenty of other shelters that would have outirght told us she was infected and the severity of it. I understand you got a great dog there.....and thats great for you. BUT that doesnt make them a great organization. The fact is, they are more concerned with getting the dogs out of their shelter than they are with actually finding the RIGHT home for them. Had they really cared about the dog, they would have informed us of her conditions so that a) she could be treated or b) she would have gone to a home from the beginning that could care for her.
oh, and just we're clear, this is a VERY common problem with NSAL. I'm not the first, nor the last, to have to returned an animal due to lack of information or proper treatment on North Shore's part. I feel terrible for the dog too, but I would have never adopted her had I been properly informed of the situation.
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Rudy is a NSAL dog. He had worms when we got him. It was marked on his cage. They gave us his medicine.
I bonded with him RIGHT AWAY. I don't understand why you couldn't just give her the medication. That poor puppy
ugh, I agree
And I am saying this with all my heart...you COULD have helped her, you CHOSE not too....The only one I feel bad for is that poor dog
When you adopted your dog from NSAL it was MARKED ON THE CAGE that he had worms. They intentionally did not tell us she had them KNOWING that they type she had was contagious to humans. It wasnt marked on her cage and we got no medication. We also dont live in LI, so driving back and forth to their vet was not an option for us. We spoke with our own vet and we were very aware of the money and time it was going to take for us to treat her. You're right -- we chose not to treat her. Unfortunatelty, spending over $1000 to board her at the vet's for over aweekuntil she was no longer contagious to us and our other dog was NOT within our budget. And NSAL only covers up to $500 of the costs. Had we been TOLD by nsal about it from the beginning, we would have known not to even bother bringing her home. Sorry, but NSAL is not the a very good organization. There are plenty of other shelters that would have outirght told us she was infected and the severity of it. I understand you got a great dog there.....and thats great for you. BUT that doesnt make them a great organization. The fact is, they are more concerned with getting the dogs out of their shelter than they are with actually finding the RIGHT home for them. Had they really cared about the dog, they would have informed us of her conditions so that a) she could be treated or b) she would have gone to a home from the beginning that could care for her.
oh, and just we're clear, this is a VERY common problem with NSAL. I'm not the first, nor the last, to have to returned an animal due to lack of information or proper treatment on North Shore's part. I feel terrible for the dog too, but I would have never adopted her had I been properly informed of the situation.
YES it was MARKED on his cage that he had worms. He also wore a special COLLAR that said medical on it. As soon as we saw my dog the guy who took him out of our cage so we could play with him told us he has worms. Explained that to us. He also told us his is on Meds and will need to be on Meds.
NO DOUBT Worms are a BIG problem at NSAL as well as MANY other Shelters! One of the main reasons for this is because people discard their dogs like garbage. The dog contacts someone takes the dog to the shelter where they live in Close quarters with other dogs and boom it happens.
NSAL called all of my refrences. They even did A unannounced home inspection. They just showed up at my house one day.
As far as I am concerned Any organization that helps animals because PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEM is a GOOD organization to me.
You said she was crate trained. Why couldn't you keep her in the crate in a room where your other dog couldn't get in contact with her when you weren't home?
What happens if you had the dog for year and it got sick but you didn't want to spend the money to help it?
I just don't understand?
I feel bad for her. She was in a cage at NSAL. You took her home she bonded with you. Bonded with your other dog and then you brought her back to the cage at NSAL for something that wasn't her fault.
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Rudy is a NSAL dog. He had worms when we got him. It was marked on his cage. They gave us his medicine.
I bonded with him RIGHT AWAY. I don't understand why you couldn't just give her the medication. That poor puppy
ugh, I agree
And I am saying this with all my heart...you COULD have helped her, you CHOSE not too....The only one I feel bad for is that poor dog
Sorry, I have to agree here. My mom got a papillion a few years ago with roundworm and kennel cough - EXACTLY the same situation, although not from NSAL - anyway, she crated the dog for a few weeks and kept him away from her other dogs. Now he is a healthy happy dog. NSAL may not have been right, but you certainly weren't either. As another poster said, you can't give a baby back - what makes it okay to give a dog back?
Oh and BTW, when we adopted our cat he had horrible worms, but we didn't return him.
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Wow. Unless you're doing something better to find animals homes, you have NO right to put down and organization that does.
I'm going to restate that the people CRIED when we took our dog home because they were so happy for him. My dog would not have survived the car accident he was in before we got him had they not treated him - and they didn't recieve a dime for doing so, which is why we gave a large donation when we adopted him, even though we're not by any means wealthy. They obviously care a lot about the animals there, and I do believe you have to review and sign the medical records before you leave with the animal.
I have to stop reading this thread.
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Wow. Unless you're doing something better to find animals homes, you have NO right to put down and organization that does.
I'm going to restate that the people CRIED when we took our dog home because they were so happy for him. My dog would not have survived the car accident he was in before we got him had they not treated him - and they didn't recieve a dime for doing so, which is why we gave a large donation when we adopted him, even though we're not by any means wealthy. They obviously care a lot about the animals there, and I do believe you have to review and sign the medical records before you leave with the animal.
I have to stop reading this thread.
You're right, you do have to sign and read the medical records when you adopt. Again, it wasnt in the medical records that she had worms -- we were never informed at any point during the process. They intentionally did not notify us. Our own vet said that she was so severely infected that it was literally impossible for NSAL to not have known (and they didnt deny not telling us when we returned her). The fact is, they would have a lot less animals returned to them if they were truthful from the beginning with the families that come in to adopt.
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The fact is, they would have a lot less animals returned to them if they were truthful from the beginning with the families that come in to adopt.
OR, if the 'family' that came to adopt them realized that an animal is not something that can just be returned...... Please STOP trying to justify what you did......
