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Latest News: Federal Judge refuses to reinsert feeding tube...

Original post by Moehick

Just heard on the news.

RedHead Posted:

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Posted by june262004


Posted by Xelindrya


Posted by june262004

They showed her mom talking to her and she was smiling. HOW CAN PEOPLE SAY SHE CANT SEE OR HEAR?



old footage





????? Oh so before she got sick she still sat in that wheelchair?


she does have facial, eye movements...whether it is in response to anything isn't likely..imo
Janice Posted:

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I think it is BS and told my DH that if it were me laying there and he got a judge to take out my feeding tube, then DH better come to my bedside with a gun or a razor and off me then and there...How is this a victory that these parents have to watch their daughter starve to death? If her DH cared about her quality of life so much, then why doesn't he put her out of her pain instead of having her lie there starving.

Xelindrya Posted:

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Posted by Janice

If her DH cared about her quality of life so much, then why doesn't he put her out of her pain instead of having her lie there starving.



Because THAT is not legal.
june262004 Posted:

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Ya but still starving someone to death isn't really either.

Janice Posted:

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Posted by Xelindrya


Posted by Janice

If her DH cared about her quality of life so much, then why doesn't he put her out of her pain instead of having her lie there starving.



Because THAT is not legal.



I know but to fight the good fight all those years...and watch her starve? is that love? I guess I am just on a million dollar baby kick
RedHead Posted:

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What are you all talking about when you say watching her starve?
DO you think you are goign to see her agonizing in pain?

Do you think she feels pain?
sassy2611 Posted:

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I had this talk with my DH last night and we both said that we would want to be unplugged. It is about quality of life not quantity. My SIL was in a major accident years ago and she was in a comma for 3 months and even when she was asleep everyone swore she was able to hear us and would squeeze our hand. This is wishful thinking, no one wants to admit that their family member is that far gone. My SIL never heard us and doesn't remember anything up to 7 months after her accident. Her quality of life is much better then it was when the accident first happened but it may never be where it was before the accident. THis lady is much worse off and if it was up to her I am sure she would like to rest peacefully and pass on where she will never experience pain or misery again.

june262004 Posted:

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Posted by RedHead

What are you all talking about when you say watching her starve?
DO you think you are goign to see her agonizing in pain?

Do you think she feels pain?



Do you know she doesn't?
RedHead Posted:

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Posted by june262004


Posted by RedHead

What are you all talking about when you say watching her starve?
DO you think you are goign to see her agonizing in pain?

Do you think she feels pain?



Do you know she doesn't?



me personally no...but you all are sitting there saying that..HE SHOULD SIT THERE AN WATCH...watch what?
june262004 Posted:

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Posted by RedHead


Posted by june262004


Posted by RedHead

What are you all talking about when you say watching her starve?
DO you think you are goign to see her agonizing in pain?

Do you think she feels pain?



Do you know she doesn't?



me personally no...but you all are sitting there saying that..HE SHOULD SIT THERE AN WATCH...watch what?



I never said that. Did I? Who knows I don't remember Im half cleaning and typing.
Janice Posted:

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Posted by RedHead


me personally no...but you all are sitting there saying that..HE SHOULD SIT THERE AN WATCH...watch what?



'her parents have to watch her die knowing that it could be stopped..this girl was very cared for...15 years and no bed sore problems? I would hate for this all to end at her husbands request for her to starve
don424 Posted:

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Posted by Janice


Posted by RedHead


me personally no...but you all are sitting there saying that..HE SHOULD SIT THERE AN WATCH...watch what?



'her parents have to watch her die knowing that it could be stopped..this girl was very cared for...15 years and no bed sore problems? I would hate for this all to end at her husbands request for her to starve



but how can it be stopped? just because she has a feeding tube in her, that's not keeping her alive
june262004 Posted:

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Posted by don424


Posted by Janice


Posted by RedHead


me personally no...but you all are sitting there saying that..HE SHOULD SIT THERE AN WATCH...watch what?



'her parents have to watch her die knowing that it could be stopped..this girl was very cared for...15 years and no bed sore problems? I would hate for this all to end at her husbands request for her to starve



but how can it be stopped? just because she has a feeding tube in her, that's not keeping her alive



Yes It is. They right now are starving her to death
RedHead Posted:

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Posted by Janice


Posted by RedHead


me personally no...but you all are sitting there saying that..HE SHOULD SIT THERE AN WATCH...watch what?



'her parents have to watch her die knowing that it could be stopped..this girl was very cared for...15 years and no bed sore problems? I would hate for this all to end at her husbands request for her to starve



OF course..it is a hard thing but she is better off! What are they keeping her alive for...??
Xelindrya Posted:

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Firstly, I think she would like to die now.. its a terrible way to...exist.


BUT, we as Americans so proud in our civil rights and human rights can not possible handle the idea of starving a human being. In ANY condition!

Being a brain dead, brain damaged doesnt matter. WE CAN NOT HANDLE THAT! (in general).

I have to admit, we all sit here at our computers and post our opinions, but we aren't THERE, we aren't her family or her husband. We can't imagine the nightmare of knowing whether she can feel it or not, we are committing her to a slow death. Starvation. I can't imagine what any of them (the family, the judge, the doctors!!) are feeling. We won't allow Dr. Kavorikan type solutions so instead we are left with starvation.

It's tough.

But allowing a loved one to just vegitate..... I couldnt do that either.

RedHead Posted:

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Posted by june262004


Yes It is. They right now are starving her to death


Technically..
don424 Posted:

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due to my religious beliefs, for me it's a real tough call

RedHead Posted:

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Posted by Xelindrya

Firstly, I think she would like to die now.. its a terrible way to...exist.


BUT, we as Americans so proud in our civil rights and human rights can not possible handle the idea of starving a human being. In ANY condition!

Being a brain dead, brain damaged doesnt matter. WE CAN NOT HANDLE THAT! (in general).

I have to admit, we all sit here at our computers and post our opinions, but we aren't THERE, we aren't her family or her husband. We can't imagine the nightmare of knowing whether she can feel it or not, we are committing her to a slow death. Starvation. I can't imagine what any of them (the family, the judge, the doctors!!) are feeling. We won't allow Dr. Kavorikan type solutions so instead we are left with starvation.

It's tough.

But allowing a loved one to just vegitate..... I couldnt do that either.




but she most likely will not feel it...
Xelindrya Posted:

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Posted by RedHead


Posted by Xelindrya

Firstly, I think she would like to die now.. its a terrible way to...exist.


BUT, we as Americans so proud in our civil rights and human rights can not possible handle the idea of starving a human being. In ANY condition!

Being a brain dead, brain damaged doesnt matter. WE CAN NOT HANDLE THAT! (in general).

I have to admit, we all sit here at our computers and post our opinions, but we aren't THERE, we aren't her family or her husband. We can't imagine the nightmare of knowing whether she can feel it or not, we are committing her to a slow death. Starvation. I can't imagine what any of them (the family, the judge, the doctors!!) are feeling. We won't allow Dr. Kavorikan type solutions so instead we are left with starvation.

It's tough.

But allowing a loved one to just vegitate..... I couldnt do that either.




but she most likely will not feel it...



I agree with you, I just hope they drug her up really good and keep her drugged. No pain, just peaceful sleep until the end.

RedHead Posted:

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Posted by Xelindrya

but she most likely will not feel it...



I agree with you, I just hope they drug her up really good and keep her drugged. No pain, just peaceful sleep until the end.



drug her up? with what?
a sleeping pill?

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