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Need about a million prayers for me and FH-- UPDATE p 2

Original post by marymoon

You know it's funny. I was just looking at all of the husband cards at work today, and all of things that they said that were so meaningful. I was thinking about how I feel so secure and how happy I feel that we're past the point where we worry about an argument, even a huge one, and how nothing could come between us, we'll work out any problems we encounter. I couldn;t wait to be with FH this weekend. Even though we have to see his family sunday for the grave unveiling, I figured it would all be ok. I even suggested that next weekend we ask his sister (whome we don't get along with) if she wants to ake nice for the day so we can take his mom out for mother's day, to make her happy that all of her children are together.

So then tonight I was in bed when FH came over after work. I'm coming down with something. And we're discussing our plans for tomorrow, what we're doing looking for a used car, etc. ANd there was a possibility that FH's dad was going to come and help us look at cards and/or give/loan us some of the $$ for the car. So I asked D to call his dad just to clarify what the plans were. His dad went into this entire lecture about how we should buy the car at auction and we're going to get ripped off otherwise and blah blah (His parents will NOT help you unlless you do it THEIR way. they make it seem like anything other than their way is wrong..they even tried to do this with my e-ring). So DOug kept telling his dad we've been looking the cars up and checking them out and chekcing out their blue book value and his dad was lecturing about that..but he didn't know what he was talking about. So I was trying to explain how I came to the value I did for the car, because there are 3 different bllue book vlaues, it doens;t just mena one thing anymore..and his dad got pissed at me talking in the background..'it's not a conference call'...and he continued to lecture then FH got on the phone with his mom and he started lecturing him on how we're in a bad situation because we don't accept any help from anyone (I want to know WHAT HELP?) and how we were so stupid to buy expensivew furniture, and she was blaming me for that (even tho I wanted cheap furniture, but since it's his apt and his $$, FH won out. I just helped pick it out becuase it's going to wind up in OUR place when we;re married)... she just kept going on and on and then she said he was henpecked...and FH says I proved her point by doing this...but I got SO angry...I picked up the phone and I said 'you know that is really rude' and I hung up on her. Then she called back and left this terse message on the machine 'Doug, if you're there I suggest you pick up the phone', like really sort of threatening...but he was eating..I was in my room b/.c I wasn't feeling well and FH finally called his mother back to tell her she was wrong for calling him henpecked and that the two of us make decisons together, includng the car and that they can't decide to leave me out of it ( guess that's oart of what his dad was saying0, and then she went off on him, saying ALL kinds of nasty things..and my mom heard all of it. She was cursing like crazy and saying terrible things about me...

and this is the kicker, she said all of these bad things, she said 'Jennifer is just lik her mother she's so(List of bad things), that's why her father left'


Bear in mind that my mother heard this entire thing..and she's going through unimaginable hurt right now with my dad having walke dout after 32 years of marriage...I think he went crazy...and I also think FMIL is gloating b/c she was always jealous of my parnets b/c they were always doing everything together.

Anyway, FH was so shocked, he said 'how can you say that?' and he was just crying and she KEPT GOING, and then finally he just said 'I can't talk anymore tonight..i love you goodbye'.

The he came into my room crying and he just wanted to leave. He didn't even want to tell my what happenned.

I was shaking and I called his mom and she picked up the phone all annnoyed and angry and I said 'You know what, i'm glad I'm just like my mother because she's a wonderful woman, and you're a disgusting person for saying horrible things about her. How can you say that' and she was trying to say she also thinks my mom is wonderful and she said it out of anger, and I was trying to say tht you just don't say those things to people, and if yu have that kind of evil in your heart, blah blah...but then FFIL gets on the phone and asks me if doug cna hear it. I had no idea why the eff he was asking this so I used his line and I said 'it's not a conference call right?' and he said 'doug can't hear you, you're tdoign this behind his back. You're so disgusting, ypu have no respect for parents' and he hung up on me. umm..as if my FH would be mad in any way for me defending my mom, and as if me defending my mom is disrespecting them. This is like the lasty straw. these people ahve been disrespecting me, my family and my fh for so long. I've hadit

Doug's really upset. We both feel like there's no solution. I told him maybe he needs to just break up with me and go reuunite with his whole family, because there's just no way in hell I'm dealing with them. I told him there is just NO apology in the world that will make me ever want to ahve ANYTHING to do with them, and I don't know if he can be happ w.o his parents in his life. I got so angry with him for not defending me. All he said was 'How could you say that?' he said he was in complete shock and crying, but he let his mother continue and say ALL she wnated to say, and when she was done, he told her he doesn't want to talk about it anymore and said 'I love you goodnbye'...that kills me. He couldn;t defend me, but he could tell her he loves her? how could he be even thinking that then. I just feel like he dropped the ball majorly. He had the chance to defend me and not allow me and my mother to be disrespected, but he just let it happen. I feel like, if he can't defend me against something so horrible, how is he going to protect me for the rest of my life. I don't remember how it happenned but I gave him the ring back.I don't want to break up, but I don't see a solution right now. His family won't be satisfied until they break us up, and he can't just say 'f--k them' cause it's his parents. He has a hard enough time with us not talking to his sister. He can't hold a grudge against anyone, he just wants everything to be nice an dhappy and I just don't feel like he did the right thing tonight...and tonight was when I really needed to be defended. Things just get more and more complicated with his family. The stronger FH and I are, the more they try to put a wedge between us. I can't and won't be disrespected fo the rest of my life, but how do I make him choose between me and his family? I know he's choose me, but would he be happy? What about our wedding, with only one of our 4 parents there? what about my children with only 1 grandparent. I'm so upset and confused. He's coming over tomorrow to talk, I just dnn't know. We might try to make an appointment to go see a priest or something. I've had them isnult me before, and even insult my parents befor,e but to say that about ym mother, who is already hurting and greving, is just horrible. And it's my DAD whow as wrong. My mother's not bad. She did nthing but support and love my dad, until he went crazy or whatever and walked out on her. He's the *******. it's no reflection on my mom. How DARE they say that. How dARE they. I won't let anyone hurt my mother.

Now FH's grandparnets' grave unveiling is sunday, he feels he needs to go b/c of his grandparents, but I don't think its a good diea. his family will NOT hesitate to start a fight whether it's a wedding, a funeral, a shiva, anything. I don't want to even LOOK at his family nad besides which, how could we ruin his grandparents' day with fighting.

I just don't know what to do with me and FH. I feel so lost since he left tonight. He was too tired and needed to get home..I feel so empty since he left and so naked w/o my ring (we've been engaged for a long time..and obviously the ring has been so important to me). I just can't sit idly by and allow all this and make it okayfor him to not defend me. I don't know. We need a lot of prayers if we're going to find a solution. If not I'll need a lot of prayers for getting through the loss of the love of my life.

Thanks ladies.
shellnroc Posted:

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I am so sorry that you are going through all of this. It's a very tough situation. I really do not blame you for sticking up for your mom. I would of did the same thing. My mom is my world and I would never let anyone hurt her.

I wish you all the best and hope that you and FH work everything out. Hang in there and be strong!!!!

My thoughts and prayers are with you.
lisad117 Posted:

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I am so sorry that you have to deal with these awful people. Have you and FH ever thought about going to counseling? Maybe a third party would be able to help you talk without getting so emotional. I will keep you in my prayers and if there is anything I can do for you please let me know.

Lisa
marymoon Posted:

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Tnaks so muhc ladies. you are the best. I will keep you updated
iffer042373 Posted:

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I am so sorry that you are going through this I hope it all works out for you in the end. What FH needs to tell his parents is that this is the woman I love this is the woman I am going to marry either you accept her and her family or you forget about everything. I know thats a hard thing for him to say but he needs to grow a backbone. I don't blame youfor being hurt and upset with what he did hey I go through some similar things with my FH family they think I am a b**ch cuz I speak my mind. His brothers tell him he needs to put his foot down and things like that his mother and step father think I try to control everything. So if you needto vent to someone you can always FM me I will listen I know what its like

In laws they should be called out laws really

I just hope everything works out and please keep us posted if you need anything I am sure I can speak for the group that we are all here for you

Jennifer
cindyandkevin Posted:

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You could def use a million prayers and hugs!!! I would take your own advice and def talk to a counselor for some help! It seems that your FI loves you very much, and I understand how much he hurt you this weekend. But he's torn right now between you and his parents, who created and raised him. I'm glad to hear that he'd choose you, his future over is family, his past. I don't think you should worry about breaking up, he'll have to tell his parents that he's marrying you and there's nothing they can do about it. You know we're all here for you!!! No matter what happens, it's all for a reason. Remember, without the pain of this world we would never be able to fully appreciate all the good things that life has to offer. You 2 will get through this, if you've lasted this long there's no stopping you now. Thanks for sharing and keep us updated!!! This too shall soon pass!!
buggiegirl Posted:

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I definitely think counseling is a good idea. I am so sorry that you are in this position- and Doug too- how awful for you both.

I really believe that things happen for a reason, and that what is meant to be will be...other than that,
marymoon Posted:

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This was copied from an email, so I don't know if it makes sense..

The situation with Ds parents is still really confusing. We went to the unveiling yesterday, and Doug's mom and sister literally made a scene. There was a point in the service where everyone could say a few words about Doug's grandparents, and someone read a poem, other people made nice comments, Doug's sister didn't say a WORD about her grandparents. She was just talking about how nice it is that her family sticks together, and everyone is so great and supportive of each other, and then she raised her voice and said 'EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T.' That was how she felt it was appropriate to memorialize her grandparents. Then Doug's mother's turn came and she said 'I miss my parents terribly, and I have too much to say, so i won't say anything...(pause..change of tone) But I will say I agree, that people should prioritize and know when it's important to stick together with family' Ok, I don't even know *** she was talking about, since, obviously we had showed up. I wasn't sure what else we were supposed to do, except that when we arrived, she actually tried to come hug us and we wouldn;t let her and Doug told her it's not the time or the place to argue, but he's angy with her and she said 'i'm angrier..you let your GIRLFRIEND hang up on me.' She walked away and we had already decided not to start a scene so we ignored it and just went to the graves for the service.

Then again during the service came the REAL scene. During PRAYERS, Doug's mom was crying (bear in mind she was completely surrounded by her husband, her cousins, etc), and then Doug' sister just turns around in the middle of prayers, gets in Dou'gs face SCREAMING, literally screaming, in a cemetary, during prayers, in front of 2 dozen people, screaming that he'd better go over and hug his mother or she'll never talk to him again, and he's so fucked up, and what an *******, and he's dead to her because of his choices, etc etc. Once again, I haven't a damn clue W T F she was talking about, since obviously we'd made a choice to be there, but his sister is mental, so who the heck knows. It was so embarassing. All of these people were staring, and everyone (except us) was going out to lunch, and I know they were all going to ask, so now all of this extended family and family firneds only heard his mom's twisted side of the story. Before he left Doud's dad approachied him and tried to hug him, Doug wouldnt let him, and his dad said 'oh I see, you CAN'T 9as in, he's not allowed)' and walked away.
Anyway, Doug and I never got to say anything, so we waited until everyone left so we could say our own goodbyes to doug's grandparents, and I kid you not the SECOND they drove away, the sun came out so brightly, it was blinding shining off the gravestones, and all of these birds in a nearby tree started chirping. I don't know what that means..but wow.

Anyway after that Doug was really sad and angry and upset. He was really pissed that they turned his grandparents' memorial into some kind of forum for thier personal vendettas.We went to a movie and when we came back, we were talking and I was telling him again that I didn't deserve to be abused and that he was letting m be abused. FInally I guess he decided it wasn't worth losing me over, and he just went and grabbed the phone and called his mother. He really gave her a piece of his mind and he relaly defended me and my mom. She was still a *****. She wouldn't accept that any decision he makes that she doens;t like is HIS, she ket going about that...AND she told doug she didn't mean to hurt my mom with her comment she just wanted to 'maim and kill' ME because she was furious that I had called her rude and hung up on her. They have hung up on me and D SO many times, it's not even funny. Anyway, she still thinks it givesher the right to say that, and she even tried to justify it first by saying that she didn't mean that my MOM had driven my dad away, but that *i* had. Then she later said that she was worried for DOug because I was treating him like my mom treated my dad, which I guess she assumes was badly, which in both cases is wrong. ANyway, he let her have it, she still didn't really care. She talked about how I had to respect her as a parent, but Doug told her she doens't act like a parent, and she really let her jealousy for my mom show. She was also saying I tore her to shreds (cause I called her rude) and that justified her 30 minute tirade about me. Blah. I don't know if there's any progress to be made, but maybe things will change once she realizes that Doug won't put up with it. Anyway, Doug and I are definitely going to counselling. it really *****, we have such a good relationship, the ONLY thing we really ever fight about is his parents, that's the only heartache in this whole relationship. I don't know if there's any conclusion, but we're going to try.

buggiegirl Posted:

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we are here for you- good for you guys for trying to be bigger than all of that drama.

good luck with the counseling, let us know how it goes
LaurenluvsTJ Posted:

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The counseling sounds like a good idea.. Although his family may be the only strain in your relationship, it is a HUGE thing.. Everything will work out for the best..
marymoon Posted:

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I wish we could send THEM to counseling. I think they are the ones who need it more
hmpena Posted:

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Jennifer,
I am so happy that you and your FI are going to see a counselor. It sounds like you both really love each other and care about each other. I am happy that he finally stood up for you... it must have felt great to know that he was supporting you.

Good luck with everything. When things get rough, focus on your feelings for him!
cindyandkevin Posted:

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I'm so proud of Doug for standing up to his parents for you!!! That's so great!! Couseling is still important but he def took a big step in the right direction and I hope you showed your appreciation for him in doing that. I'm really glad the 2 of you didn't let his family get to you and you decided to go to the service. It's better that you said your private good-byes and now he'll have his peace with his grandparents and know that they were properly memorialized. His family is being horrible to you and counseling seems like the best solution so far. Did you take the ring back? Just wondering. Things are hard sometimes and bad things inexplicably happen to good people, I think this is God's way of testing us to see how strong our bonds of love really are. Not sure if you're religious or not but I believe that if you really want to be together that you'll get through this together no matter what gets thrown your way.
Mystere Posted:

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I'm not good at advice and i don't know what to say but I had to say something! We are here for you and everything will work out!!! It sounds like he really loves you and you really love him!!! He seems to be working on not losing you and it may be slow but its progress, counseling is a great idea!!! My FH and I went for an afternoon of counseling with a priest because my family is alot like Doug's except its directed at me rather than FH and the stress was difficult when we first got engaged a year ago. I felt so good after the counseling, although there are still problems it really helped us emotionally and there were useful suggestions on how to deal with them. I love them and don't want to lose them - they are good people but they have their moments that can be difficult - things have been much better since counseling though!!


Keep us updated we are here for you
gNi1125 Posted:

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Posted by marymoon

I wish we could send THEM to counseling. I think they are the ones who need it more



I definitely agree with you Jenn, that's very bizarre behavior on their part but I am sure his extended family realized it also...no matter what version of the story they told. I'm glad you both went and even more glad Doug put his foot down. Don't let them get the best of you both. Pick and choose your battles...otherwise you'll be fighting for ever. All the best to you both
marymoon Posted:

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My aunt hit th4e nail on the head. She called and the first thing she said was 'I hear you and Doug want to go to counseling. You don't need the counseling, you have a great relationship, his parents are the ones that need help'
soontobemrsv Posted:

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i am praying for you two to work it out.

buggiegirl Posted:

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Posted by marymoon

My aunt hit th4e nail on the head. She called and the first thing she said was 'I hear you and Doug want to go to counseling. You don't need the counseling, you have a great relationship, his parents are the ones that need help'



isn't it unfortunate
iffer042373 Posted:

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I agree you guys don't need the counseling his p arents and sister need it but then again maybe the counseling will help you guys deal with his sister and parents better. Maybe in one of the sessions try to bring the parents in and then they wil see from an outsider that they are wack-a-doos. I feel so bad that you have to go through this during one of the most exciting times of your life. I am glad that D finally stuck up for you and your mom. That had to make you feel alot better

LuckyMe Posted:

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OMG! Im soooo sorry your dealing with your dads issues and this long going battle with his family. We are all here for you so vent anytime but I have no solution to give you. They are not going to change and chances are neither is FH. Im going through this myself and I just believe you either have to learn to deal or move on which is difficult. See my FH and I live with them so he brings the kids up to see the evil witch and her sidekick and just dont go. I catch FH going up though and having idle chit chat with them which irritates me to no end and has cause major blow outs because he does it like a sneak and tells me when he comes back down that he came down because he couldnt take them anymore but hello from our apartment I can hear everything that's going on up there and he knows it DUH!! I do know though that once we move out it will all be over because since Im not speaking to her she wont call my house and definetly wont come over, so I wont have to put up with it anymore. In your situation there is so much family interaction on his part that there is no walking away. Think long and hard about what you really want in life because even with the argueing things can be worked out if you want them to be. I've called off this wedding I dont know how many times in a fit of frustration but FH knows me well enough to know it will pass(not that this is the right way to go about it but it does help me ) Good Luck Jenn and please FM anytime.
06NovBride Posted:

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I'm so sorry you are going through this. I agree that you guys are not the ones that need counseling, but maybe going to counseling will help both of you to deal with his parents better. They might be able to give you options as to how to deal with them. Good luck to both of you.

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