RadiantBride

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Posted by kslmbuggie

i dont think it will happen anytime soon. My family is from SC & when i go down there 2 visit i am shocked to c how segregated some parts still are. the south just has a totally different mentality than the north this is why many black people left the south to come to the north so many years ago including my maternal & paternal grandparents.

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Posted by AmandaLynn04

What is UP with the South???? When will the south get up to speed with the rest of the country - there is no more slavery, no more segregation - and when will the south just let black people live as equals among the rest of the country?????

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ITA. Several years ago, I went with a friend who was moving her sister back from very southern Virginia (on the TN border) and - everyone EVERYONE had a confederate flag on their home - their car. It was insane.

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Posted by kslmbuggie

i dont think it will happen anytime soon. My family is from SC & when i go down there 2 visit i am shocked to c how segregated some parts still are. the south just has a totally different mentality than the north this is why many black people left the south to come to the north so many years ago including my maternal & paternal grandparents.

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Posted by AmandaLynn04

What is UP with the South???? When will the south get up to speed with the rest of the country - there is no more slavery, no more segregation - and when will the south just let black people live as equals among the rest of the country?????

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and alot of those southerners still feel the country should be split into the union and confederacy because of their racial views

Oh, and, thanks for posting the link and story, girls.

It's pretty dumb of me to have missed this on the news.

I guess that's what happens when I watch the news while on LIW!

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Posted by DomTriniBRL

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Posted by jennandrolo

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Posted by DomTriniBRL

I did read more of the story on Wikipedia. It seems like that town has a history. A few months before the attacks, a couple of kids did a prank with nooses. Plus there are other things that happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_Six

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that incident with the nooses led to more incidents and ultimately led up to the white kid getting assaulted.

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Yeah I read that as well. It's just plain sad that this is still going on in 2007.

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if that noose incident occurred in ny..those white kids would be in a heap of trouble

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Posted by DomTriniBRL

You know what is more shocking. The other day when my SIL and I were walking down the streets in Allentown (a city that is 77% white and 25% hispanic and 3% black), and I see this store that have the Conf. Flag outside of the store. I also see a few places around the area that have the flag out. I guess it doesn't apply to only the South and that's sad.

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REALLY? I have never noticed that..... ridiculous.

I'm going to be teaching up there - I hope it's really not like that.

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Posted by AmandaLynn04
I cannot believe that racism still exists. I really can't. Maybe it's because I am from a town on Long Island, that is pretty mixed, race-wise...... and everyone got along - black, white, hispanic, asian.... etc.

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The problem that people do not think that there is racism on Long Island is because some people do not talk about it. Just because someone has not experienced it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. You would really have to have open conversations between 'black, white hispanic & asian' people to really understand what life is like for other. (I used to teach with this professor who was wonderful on these topics). There was a show Black/ White that was on TV a year or so ago that was really interesting, it pushed a lot of buttons & envelops on it that she used to create discussion in class)

Racism and prejudice doesn't mean people do not get
noticed to his disdain they kept on showing him run down, lower income houses. He outright wondered it they were showing him only homes in those area because that is where they steered him because of his skin color. He surely had the money to afford a better selection of homes & since he was in such a rush, he ended being able to rent having to rent from a colleague professor while he searched for a home to buy. But It is a shame that someone who has achieved so much and got to that level still has to worry about the amount of pigment he has in his skin hindering his access to something. Real or perceived he was mad & discouraged.

So at least we are talking about it here. It is good to ask questions!!!

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Posted by Celest76

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Posted by AmandaLynn04
I cannot believe that racism still exists. I really can't. Maybe it's because I am from a town on Long Island, that is pretty mixed, race-wise...... and everyone got along - black, white, hispanic, asian.... etc.

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The problem that people do not think that there is racism on Long Island is because some people do not talk about it. Just because someone has not experienced it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. You would really have to have open conversations between 'black, white hispanic & asian' people to really understand what life is like for other. (I used to teach with this professor who was wonderful on these topics). There was a show Black/ White that was on TV a year or so ago that was really interesting, it pushed a lot of buttons & envelops on it that she used to create discussion in class)

Racism and prejudice doesn't mean people do not get
noticed to his disdain they kept on showing him run down, lower income houses. He outright wondered it they were showing him only homes in those area because that is where they steered him because of his skin color. He surely had the money to afford a better selection of homes & since he was in such a rush, he ended being able to rent having to rent from a colleague professor while he searched for a home to buy. But It is a shame that someone who has achieved so much and got to that level still has to worry about the amount of pigment he has in his skin hindering his access to something. Real or perceived he was mad & discouraged.

So at least we are talking about it here. It is good to ask questions!!!

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i totally agree that racism exists up here....its just not as out there and obvious as it is in the South.

Jena 6


some history.

as someone thankfully stated, racial bias is alive and well everywhere. It is time for everyone to recognize that most of us have it and to use that knowledge to facilitate change in the way we think about each other.

The only difference w/ the South and North is that the bias is covert in NY, it isn't stated or implied but it's bubbling under the surface. In my experience-and I lived in the south for 8 years and just moved back last Jan.-NY is more segregated than the south. There are many more incidences of racially mixed neighborhoods there than here (hard to believe but true!)

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Posted by empressdani

as someone thankfully stated, racial bias is alive and well everywhere. It is time for everyone to recognize that most of us have it and to use that knowledge to facilitate change in the way we think about each other.

The only difference w/ the South and North is that the bias is covert in NY, it isn't stated or implied but it's bubbling under the surface. In my experience-and I lived in the south for 8 years and just moved back last Jan.-NY is more segregated than the south. There are many more incidences of racially mixed neighborhoods there than here (hard to believe but true!)

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i would never think that. they actually say that queens is one of the most racially diverse neighborhoods in the country!

it is so sad to think that racism is so prevalant - maybe we can put an end to that with the next generation through our parenting?

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Posted by ant n tilde

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Posted by empressdani

as someone thankfully stated, racial bias is alive and well everywhere. It is time for everyone to recognize that most of us have it and to use that knowledge to facilitate change in the way we think about each other.

The only difference w/ the South and North is that the bias is covert in NY, it isn't stated or implied but it's bubbling under the surface. In my experience-and I lived in the south for 8 years and just moved back last Jan.-NY is more segregated than the south. There are many more incidences of racially mixed neighborhoods there than here (hard to believe but true!)

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i would never think that. they actually say that queens is one of the most racially diverse neighborhoods in the country!

it is so sad to think that racism is so prevalant - maybe we can put an end to that with the next generation through our parenting?

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absolutely Queens is totally diverse, I work in the community everyday all day so I see it first hand. However, you notice that each racial group has their 'area' Corona=Hispanic, Jamaica=African American, and on and on. Each borough its the same thing. Of course there are times where there are a few persons of different races w/ in those communities but they are far from racially mixed.

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Posted by empressdani

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Posted by ant n tilde

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Posted by empressdani

as someone thankfully stated, racial bias is alive and well everywhere. It is time for everyone to recognize that most of us have it and to use that knowledge to facilitate change in the way we think about each other.

The only difference w/ the South and North is that the bias is covert in NY, it isn't stated or implied but it's bubbling under the surface. In my experience-and I lived in the south for 8 years and just moved back last Jan.-NY is more segregated than the south. There are many more incidences of racially mixed neighborhoods there than here (hard to believe but true!)

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i would never think that. they actually say that queens is one of the most racially diverse neighborhoods in the country!

it is so sad to think that racism is so prevalent - maybe we can put an end to that with the next generation through our parenting?

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absolutely Queens is totally diverse, I work in the community everyday all day so I see it first hand. However, you notice that each racial group has their 'area' Corona=Hispanic, Jamaica=African American, and on and on. Each borough its the same thing. Of course there are times where there are a few persons of different races w/ in those communities but they are far from racially mixed.

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oh yeah i guess i never thought of it that way but definitely true!

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Posted by empressdani

With our parenting, yes I think that is a good start. It's hard to change what people already believe so our children are our blank slate and we can teach them to be open to different cultures. NY's best asset is that we have all these different cultures at our fingertips to expose our children too. That's why I love this city...and if it weren't so stinking expensive that I would raise my children here..LOL

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yeah i think with each generation we will get closer to our goal! my parents came here from another country and didnt really understand all of the different cultures and basically only wanted to be around italian people LOL

well, as the years passed they were exposed to more cultures and different cultures joined our family so MY generation became more educated about different people

i think ( and hope ) that we are teaching the next generation to not even notice skin color!!

my niece is 8 years old and she does not see herself as black or white, she explains that she is rainbow - so she gives me hope for the future ( and her name is Hope so that is appropriate )