Same Sex Marriage is Mass.. how do you feel about it?

tis been a pleasure folks

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voted that I was against it to begin with, as it was not in line with the Catholic Church.

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Explain to me what the heck the Catholic Church or any other Church has to do with OUR laws? Remember a small thing called seperation of Church and State? Funny how people forgot the Constitution when it suits them. But if you get arrested I am sure you will remember the Consitution very quckily.

What totally cracks me up is girls who actually think that marriage has some long special, romantic history in the Church. Marriage was a business transaction. Women were not allowed to own property or control finances so fathers had to marry off their daughters. It was also a way that gov't officials and business owners combined wealth. Sounds very romantic, right?

Fast foward to today... why should we not allow 2 consenting adults to MARRY legally? There is NOT one good reason, just bigotry IMO

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Posted by michele31

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voted that I was against it to begin with, as it was not in line with the Catholic Church.

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Explain to me what the heck the Catholic Church or any other Church has to do with OUR laws? Remember a small thing called seperation of Church and State? Funny how people forgot the Constitution when it suits them. But if you get arrested I am sure you will remember the Consitution very quckily.

What totally cracks me up is girls who actually think that marriage has some long special, romantic history in the Church. Marriage was a business transaction. Women were not allowed to own property or control finances so fathers had to marry off their daughters. It was also a way that gov't officials and business owners combined wealth. Sounds very romantic, right?

Fast foward to today... why should we not allow 2 consenting adults to MARRY legally? There is NOT one good reason, just bigotry IMO

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BRAVO!!!!

Although I'm pretty sure the topic has already been closed I just wanted to add something really quick. A lot of gay bars started back in the 70's and 80's when homosexuals weren't allowed in straight bars-maybe not so much as they weren't allowed more of that they got the crap kicked out of them if they went. So bars formed in order to have a place for gay people to go. Many of those bars are still around today, although the names change over the years. All the gay people I know go to the bars for 2 main reasons:

1) They aren't afraid of hitting on someone straight
2) They feel a lot more comfortable because they are not getting looked at my homophobic people who want to hurt them.

Think of it this way, as a female would you feel comfortable walking into a bar that was 99% male? You might feel a little out of place. That's how it's been explained to me from a gay person's point of view. You can also apply to do different races and ethnic backgrounds. As a society we tend to feel more comfortable being with people who are just like us. That doesn't mean there should be separation but I'm talking about people's comfort zones.

I have been to many gay bars and clubs and I have never felt unwelcomed. I've also been hit on a couple of times and I simply explained that I was with my DH and then the person backed off.

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Posted by michele31

Funny, none of the bigots were able to address my post.....makes you wonder if your opinion on the subject is educated or just a knee-jerk reaction to your own ideals.....

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OK, well I thought this topic was closed but since I am being called out as a 'bigot', I shall respond.

Michele31 -- my first question is, where were you about 215 posts ago?? We've been at this for 2 days and the separation of church and state was one of the first things among many that we went over.

After 2 days, we all decided to agree to disagree, as everyone has their own opinion. Now, I'm not going to open the topic back up for you. if you want to know how I feel and how everyone else feels, read through the thread.

Furthermore, as heated as this topic got, no one ever resorted to name calling like 'bigot'. Everyone was very respectful with their opinions and in just about every post you'll notice that everyone acknowledged that everyone has a right to how they feel.

My advice to you is that if you are going to express an opinion, do so respectfully, don't resort to name calling or do not post at all.

I hope this ends it

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Posted by don424

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Posted by michele31

Funny, none of the bigots were able to address my post.....makes you wonder if your opinion on the subject is educated or just a knee-jerk reaction to your own ideals.....

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OK, well I thought this topic was closed but since I am being called out as a 'bigot', I shall respond.

Michele31 -- my first question is, where were you about 215 posts ago?? We've been at this for 2 days and the separation of church and state was one of the first things among many that we went over.

After 2 days, we all decided to agree to disagree, as everyone has their own opinion. Now, I'm not going to open the topic back up for you. if you want to know how I feel and how everyone else feels, read through the thread.

Furthermore, as heated as this topic got, no one ever resorted to name calling like 'bigot'. Everyone was very respectful with their opinions and in just about every post you'll notice that everyone acknowledged that everyone has a right to how they feel.

My advice to you is that if you are going to express an opinion, do so respectfully, don't resort to name calling or do not post at all.

I hope this ends it

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TOTALLY AGREE
She was just mad nobody pays attention to her rants and raves

If am not actually around here much anymore, for reasons that this post scream. I believe in allowing people the same freedoms that I have. I, for one, am NOT going to keep my mouth shut and just respectfully disagree when you are talking about people that I LOVE. I am not one of those 'stands in the crowds and says nothing' type people. You can all disagree or agree, but when push comes to shove not allowing 2 consenting adults to marry based on gender issues it is a form of bigotry.

I have been on this board LONG before many of you, and am not upset when people do not respond. I was just curious how someone can defend their position. that is all.

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Posted by michele31


I have been on this board LONG before many of you, and am not upset when people do not respond. I was just curious how someone can defend their position. that is all.

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What does being on the board longer than anyone have to do with this?

and that's all fine and good, but why resort to name calling?

Referring to bigotry as a concept is fine. Calling people bigots is another.

No one said to keep your mouth shut. 225 posts on this topic should tell you that. But, do it respectfully and no name calling.

I guess having a topic where we could all be respectful of each other opinions was too much to ask for after all.

Such a shame too. For once I was very impressed with how everyone on the thread conducted themselves and expressed their feelings freely without disrespecting other people.

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Posted by Jenn524

I guess having a topic where we could all be respectful of each other opinions was too much to ask for after all.

Such a shame too. For once I was very impressed with how everyone on the thread conducted themselves and expressed their feelings freely without disrespecting other people.

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Be impressed, one rude person shouldn't spoil it for anyone! I like how this board is now and OBVIOUSLY IT IS MUCH BETTER. Since people can express their opinions without having to feel like they will be verbally assaulted.
MAYBE certain older members can learn manners from the younger ones!

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Posted by pschica

i am for it - when people find someone who makes them happy, thats great! but at the same time, one of my co-workers told me that she doesn't think its fair that they can then have the medical beenfits from their spouses jobs while she cannot by being just a 'commonlaw' wife b/c she lives with her husband...it was in interesting point i thought!

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That is true with some companies, but Health insurance is not a right in this country. My FH's company offers domestic partnership insurance. We were not eligible, but that is because we have the option of getting married. Homosexuals do not have that option.