Terry Schiavo's parents

Original post by RedHead

Mar 26, 2005 04:15 PM

Stopped the pursuit to have Terri's feeding tube put back in!

Finally this woman will be at peace...sad but yet comforting

don424 Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:17 PM

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Posted by RedHead

Posted by tracyg

Posted by don424

Posted by RedHead

Posted by don424

my thoughts exactly

they say rarely and likely

that's not definite
She's not experiencing hunger — she's not experiencing anything,' Albin says.

when Albin can enter her body, then I'll believe him

LOL exactly!
And he's in Michigan. He's not HER doctor.

always a answer

as do you

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:17 PM

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Posted by don424

Posted by RedHead

Posted by don424

my thoughts exactly

they say rarely and likely

that's not definite
She's not experiencing hunger — she's not experiencing anything,' Albin says.

when Albin can enter her body, then I'll believe him

that is a last resort answer...a desperate one at best don

don424 Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:18 PM

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in your opinion

plus that congressional article just contradicted your whole argument

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:18 PM

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We don't have to experience everyting first hand to know don.

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:18 PM

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Posted by don424

in your opinion

plus that congressional article just contradicted your whole argument

it is just the fact Don....If you want to hold out so be it....
Believe what you want
In the end the decision has been made

don424 Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:19 PM

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you keep saying she's brain dead

that article clearly states that being a vegetable is NOT brain dead

don424 Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:19 PM

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sad but true

i don't have to agree with the decision

tracyg Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:20 PM

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Posted by RedHead

Posted by tracyg

Posted by don424

Posted by RedHead

Posted by don424

my thoughts exactly

they say rarely and likely

that's not definite
She's not experiencing hunger — she's not experiencing anything,' Albin says.

when Albin can enter her body, then I'll believe him

LOL exactly!
And he's in Michigan. He's not HER doctor.

always a answer

Excuse me?
Hello pot!

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:22 PM

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Q: Do patients in persistent or permanent vegetative states experience pain or suffering?
A: No. The parts of the brain necessary for consciousness, that feel pain or suffering, are not working. Moving their arms or legs in response to unpleasant feelings or sounds are only reflexes.

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:23 PM

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Posted by tracyg

And he's in Michigan. He's not HER doctor.

always a answer

Excuse me?
Hello pot!

saying that you have to be in her body to KNOW that she will not feel pain is desperate...last resort answer..with obvious no way to fight...

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:23 PM

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Posted by don424

you keep saying she's brain dead

that article clearly states that being a vegetable is NOT brain dead

Terri is considered BRAIN DEAD don

tracyg Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:24 PM

Re: Terry Schiavo's parents

Posted by RedHead

Posted by tracyg

And he's in Michigan. He's not HER doctor.

always a answer

Excuse me?
Hello pot!

saying that you have to be in her body to KNOW that she will not feel pain is desperate...last resort answer..with obvious no way to fight...

I'm not the one who said that.

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:26 PM

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Posted by tracyg

Posted by RedHead

Posted by tracyg

And he's in Michigan. He's not HER doctor.

always a answer

Excuse me?
Hello pot!

saying that you have to be in her body to KNOW that she will not feel pain is desperate...last resort answer..with obvious no way to fight...

I'm not the one who said that.

no you agreed.

tracyg Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:26 PM

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Posted by RedHead

Posted by don424

you keep saying she's brain dead

that article clearly states that being a vegetable is NOT brain dead

Terri is considered BRAIN DEAD don

according to the article you quoted... she is NOT brain dead.

' A person who is “brain dead” is truly dead because all parts of the brain, even the part that regulates basic activities such as breathing, heart rate, and blood pressure, has died. A brain dead body needs a breathing machine to keep other organs working because of the loss of breathing. A brain dead body does not wake or move at all and most of its reflexes are gone. '

Johnny&Maur Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:27 PM

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(in response to oscarthegroom)..while you point out many important things..(i know i would not want to live this way either)..its not that no one cares about others living this way....its that a case like this helps to bring forth this issue that most of us probably really didn't know much about until now.

Look at how much eye opening discussion this case has sparked...the one good thing to come of this whole mess was that it got people to talk...i know i talked to my fiance about it and told him my wishes..

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:30 PM

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Here is where i end my discussion on this topic.

To the people who feel that i am too persistent in how i feel....well that is me. I feel very strongly on this matter. SO you have seen me talk about it full force.

Although i do not understand your opinions i will respect it...The opinions that apply to Terri that is...

In the end the decision has been made..it is over.
whether we agree with it or not.

BMD'sPeanut Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:32 PM

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Red,
I don't understand why you are so hell-bent on trying to express what you are expressing...

I would like to think that most people on this site have a limited understanding (intellectually, emotionally, etc.) of something like this because we haven't had to go through it.

Let it be...You seem to be getting yourself all worked up...Who cares what we think or feel in our hearts for whatever reason ---and simply wish to express?

RedHead Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:36 PM

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Posted by BMD'sPeanut

Red,
I don't understand why you are so hell-bent on trying to express what you are expressing...

I would like to think that most people on this site have a limited understanding (intellectually, emotionally, etc.) of something like this because we haven't had to go through it.

Let it be...You seem to be getting yourself all worked up...Who cares what we think or feel in our hearts for whatever reason ---and simply wish to express?

Kelly~

why would anyone want to express how he or she feels.?

AND i agree..most peopel DO have limited knowledge...of which i have some MORE....which is why i am talking about it more...

AND if you read my last post...i have already said that i am ending the discussion as it is really MUTE at this point.

ALl of us feel passionately about something... and this is one of mine. So if anyone doesn't like how i express that...then they don't have to read my thread

ETA...yo get all in a huff about grammatical errors...we all have things we feel are worth talking about to no end i guess

nov04LIbride Posted: Mar 29, 2005 02:37 PM

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Posted by BMD'sPeanut

Red,
I don't understand why you are so hell-bent on trying to express what you are expressing...

I would like to think that most people on this site have a limited understanding (intellectually, emotionally, etc.) of something like this because we haven't had to go through it.

Let it be...You seem to be getting yourself all worked up...Who cares what we think or feel in our hearts for whatever reason ---and simply wish to express?

I think it is just that those of us who have gone through this for family members (and in Red's case, at her job), feel strongly that if others saw what it is truly like, perhaps their opinions would be different. Not knowing is not understanding. And to some extent I got upset by this because some of the comments were just hypocritical. Unless you are a Christian Scientist IMO you have no right to say that you only feel that what God wants is the only way. Anyone who has taken medicine, birth control, gone to a doctor, has messed with what might be God's plan for us.