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Update:Dont want to take his last name

Original post by MrsLarrea2B

For a traditional bride, I am having a hardtime accepting the idea of changing my last name. I feel like a) I am not his damn property. i am not his dog or his slave. b) why should I have to take his stupid last name? c) why should his 'family' take the credit for my accomplishments...d) why should I have to 'give up' my family history and my fathers last name for FH ??? e) Why should I have to go through the hassle of changing my last name and all legal documents????

I have argued w. people over this and all i hear is 'I dont want my kids to feel weird b.c we dont have the same last name. i dont want teachers to think my child is a ******* child. (LOL). so then if this is the case....why not take MY last name???
What the hell makes his damn family better than mine that I should feel so damn PRIVILEDGED to have it????? people have suggested hyphenating my name....I think thats stupid. what the hell am I supposed to do... Sign 3 damn names everywhere? i really hate the fact that women are even put in this stupid position. I thought about changing my middle name to his...or maybe change it to my last name (if I want to compromise) but i hear that I have to go through the supreme court to get ny middle name changed!!! ***?

*** MY SCREEN NAME IS Mrs.Larrea 2b --- I used it b.c I figured I would 'try' to get used to it. But the more ppl at work ask me 'so you are going to be Mrs.___' and I alwasy respond 'Mrs.hurtado' and they get all weirded out. then i get the 'ur a feminist' crap.

It is a matter of principle ... What the hell makes him king of the castle???

UPDATE 03/11/08


FH and I argued about it yesterday. He was so pissed off at me. He even brought up cancelling the wedding!
He asked me why I didnt want to change my name. I told him b.c I didnt see a need for it and my name meant a lot to me. He countered w. its tradition for the woman to change her name. SO me like an *** I said, I dont wanna follow tradition...and then my super smart sneaky FH double countered w. 'so why the hell are w. paying 30k for a wedding, if you dont wanna follow tradition???' ( Just to fill you in, FH is against us having a huge wedding. But he is doing this b.c he knows I have been dreaming of this day since I was born. My FH literally starves himself in order to pay for our wedding. He doesnt go out his friends, and if he does he always invites me to come along. from the moment we got engaged he immediately went along w. the wedding plans and didnt argue w. me about it)

So basically we are 2 very stubborn people, My argument is that the whole 'tradition' excuse is not a good reason and I dont wanna go that route. Which hapens to be HIS reason for not wanting a big wedding. Money is very important to him and he is willing to give it all to me to throw away on one day, instead of using that money to buy our 1st house together or opening up a business.

As far as the last name goes, his excuse is that it is tradition and he does want to go that route.
He feels that I am contradicting myself when I say 'I am traditional and I MUST have a huge wedding. BUt then again I am a modern woman and I dont care what people say so I wont take your last name'

So then I tried to reason w. him and brought up hyphenating.... he said 'no way, how about we have a 1/2 assed wedding then? or I only give you 1/2 the money? or 1/2 a wedding cake? All or nothing'

Then I said, FINE, then NOTHING!
We walked towards the car and started laughing. He turned to me and said... 'You have to take my last name, we are going to start a family'

I pretended not to hear him and the argument ended there. I am telling you, this is not going to be an easy one.



MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by teenigrrl


Posted by CMS

How's this for an 'argument' for keeping your last name? My BIL's sister is a very high ranking executive in her company and in her field. When she married her husband (We'll call him Dr. Jones), she kept her maiden name (we'll say Smith). When they would go to business functions for her, he would get VERY UPSET that people would come up to him and say, 'It's a pleasure to meet you, Mr. Smith.' So maybe you could ask him how he would feel if the situation was reversed?

Here's another option you might want to consider. I work with an attorney who is 'John Smith'. He married 'Mary Black'. When they got married they each took each other's name, so they are both Mr. & Mrs. Black-Smith, as are the children.

Just a thought.....



that's exactly what i was trying to convince DH to do, have it so we would both hyphenate our names. i was going to hyphenate just my name, and i even told DH that if i hyphenate, our childrens' last name will also be hyphenated, and he was perfectly A-OK with that.

in the end, i changed mine, but my maiden name is now my middle name. (and you don't have to go to court do do that). i know i haven't changed one single bit. so it's a bit inconveniet to go to social security and DMV. for me, it was about starting our life together as a family, we're all one unit. i thought it would be weird if our kids and i had one last name, and he had his last name. i think there's a time to pick and choose your battles, for me, changing my name wasn't a big one.




please tell me how I can go about changing my middle name to my last name!!!
teenigrrl Posted:

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please tell me how I can go about changing my middle name to my last name!!!


i simply went to social security, and entered my new name (i actually now have two middle names), and i asked if this would be OK, and the woman said yes, so now i'm Tina Marie Maiden Married (even says it on my new ss card). I changed it on my licenses at work, and it's been no hassle at all. As long as your ss card has your new name, that's how the gov't recognizes you, and they said moving my maiden name to my middle names was fine.
MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by teenigrrl

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please tell me how I can go about changing my middle name to my last name!!!


i simply went to social security, and entered my new name (i actually now have two middle names), and i asked if this would be OK, and the woman said yes, so now i'm Tina Marie Maiden Married (even says it on my new ss card). I changed it on my licenses at work, and it's been no hassle at all. As long as your ss card has your new name, that's how the gov't recognizes you, and they said moving my maiden name to my middle names was fine.



HA!!!! I will pull a fast one on FH!!!

PreshusSmurf Posted:

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I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.

MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.
PreshusSmurf Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???
MrsDrinkh20 Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???



agreed...honesty is key! and besides...at least your lsat name won't be drinkwater
MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???




Because it makes life easier. That's why.
MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by MrsDrinkh20


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???



agreed...honesty is key! and besides...at least your lsat name won't be drinkwater




wait...is it literally...'drinkwater'?
PreshusSmurf Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???




Because it makes life easier. That's why.




Wow.
MrsDrinkh20 Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by MrsDrinkh20


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???



agreed...honesty is key! and besides...at least your lsat name won't be drinkwater




wait...is it literally...'drinkwater'?


Yes maam..yours doesnt seem that bad anymore, eh?
MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???




Because it makes life easier. That's why.




Wow.




'wow' what???
MrsDtoBe09 Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???




Because it makes life easier. That's why.




Wow.



I have to agree here with shock here. Sneaking around to change your name is going to make your life easier? You better be 100% sure it will be easier before doing that.
bluegreen08 Posted:

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I have to agree. Your FH will eventually find out, and sneaking around behind his back is not the best way to start off a marriage.

If you feel THAT strongly about not changing it, don't change it. However, I think you should then compromise on something else that is impt to your FH. Marriage is about compromise -- whatever your trigger issues are, you need to work through them together, openly and honestly.

MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by MrsDtoBe09


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf


Posted by MrsLarrea2B


Posted by PreshusSmurf

I don't think you'll be able to 'pull a fast one' on him .... I'm pretty sure that the whole process starts when you fill out the form to get your marriage license. Your FH has to be there for that, he will see what you write for your married name.



I will change my middle name to my last name after the wedding, when I go to ALONE to the SS office.




Why would you want to hide something like that from your Future HUSBAND???




Because it makes life easier. That's why.




Wow.



I have to agree here with shock here. Sneaking around to change your name is going to make your life easier? You better be 100% sure it will be easier before doing that.




Well, whats the worse that can happen? By then I would have already given him the pleasure of taking his last name, so he will be happy. A few days after we get married I will go to the SS office and replace my middle name w. my maiden name. Then I will go home to DH and act all naive and happy and say 'Hey, guess what? I decided to change my middle name for my maiden name. ' - he will then get mad. and I will play stupid 'I didnt know this would bother you, I did take YOUR last name... well, what do I look like ... a mindreader??' - lol
and then eventually he will get over it, and we can have fun having make up sex. Whats he gonna do? Leave me???
bluegreen08 Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by MrsLarrea2B

Well, whats the worse that can happen? By then I would have already given him the pleasure of taking his last name, so he will be happy. A few days after we get married I will go to the SS office and replace my middle name w. my maiden name. Then I will go home to DH and act all naive and happy and say 'Hey, guess what? I decided to change my middle name for my maiden name. ' - he will then get mad. and I will play stupid 'I didnt know this would bother you, I did take YOUR last name... well, what do I look like ... a mindreader??' - lol
and then eventually he will get over it, and we can have fun having make up sex. Whats he gonna do? Leave me???



I thought you meant you were going to change your name to First Middle Maiden Married, and then after the wedding drop the Married and go back to just Maiden.

I can't see why your FH would be mad about you making your middle name into your maiden name. It sounds like a great compromise. I would recommend being upfront about it, that's all.
MrsDrinkh20 Posted:

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'Well, whats the worse that can happen? By then I would have already given him the pleasure of taking his last name, so he will be happy. A few days after we get married I will go to the SS office and replace my middle name w. my maiden name. Then I will go home to DH and act all naive and happy and say 'Hey, guess what? I decided to change my middle name for my maiden name. ' - he will then get mad. and I will play stupid 'I didnt know this would bother you, I did take YOUR last name... well, what do I look like ... a mindreader??' - lol
and then eventually he will get over it, and we can have fun having make up sex. Whats he gonna do? Leave me??? '




Oh my goodness.>>i am trying to decide if this is some sort of joke! I really can't imagine having this attitude and lying this way to my future husband..I totally understand not wanting to take his last name (believe me) but I don't think lying about it and playing dumb is going to make anything easier...'whats the worst that can happen?' Him not trusting you and leaving? I think thats pretty bad!



MrsLarrea2B Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by bluegreen08


Posted by MrsLarrea2B

Well, whats the worse that can happen? By then I would have already given him the pleasure of taking his last name, so he will be happy. A few days after we get married I will go to the SS office and replace my middle name w. my maiden name. Then I will go home to DH and act all naive and happy and say 'Hey, guess what? I decided to change my middle name for my maiden name. ' - he will then get mad. and I will play stupid 'I didnt know this would bother you, I did take YOUR last name... well, what do I look like ... a mindreader??' - lol
and then eventually he will get over it, and we can have fun having make up sex. Whats he gonna do? Leave me???



I thought you meant you were going to change your name to First Middle Maiden Married, and then after the wedding drop the Married and go back to just Maiden.

I can't see why your FH would be mad about you making your middle name into your maiden name. It sounds like a great compromise. I would recommend being upfront about it, that's all.



lol, Im not THAT deceiving. Eh, you know what? I am terrible at paperwork so I will prob. never get around to it. lol
bluegreen08 Posted:

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What if you said.... FH, I know how important it is to you for me to take your name, so after a lot of thought I decided that I am going to do that. However, my name is an important part of me and my family history, so I am going to drop my middle name and replace it with my maiden name.

Then live happily ever after?

PreshusSmurf Posted:

Re: Update:Dont want to take his last name


Posted by bluegreen08

I can't see why your FH would be mad about you making your middle name into your maiden name. It sounds like a great compromise. I would recommend being upfront about it, that's all.




I agree with this.

To explain my shock -- I am just AMAZED that you want to start off your marriage by 'pulling a fast one' rather than being upfront and honest about your plans to preserve your last name by using it as your middle name.

There is still time before your wedding, and I truly hope for your future husband''s sake that you will realize before you walk down the aisle and say 'I Do' that dishonesty, tricks and games are not the way to enter into a lifelong commitment with someone you love.

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