I have to ask, and maybe I'm stepping out of line here, but how come every new person that shows their face on this board is automatically pegged as an EAL?
I can imagine how as a new bride coming here to plan a wedding you can become so discouraged and not want to post considering the 'warm welcome' we all hand out.
I understand that the whole Karen situation was random and made us all freak out for half a second, but some of the girls on constant EAL alert weren't even around yet when the whole Karen thing went down.
I just think it's a shame that we jump on every newbies back that inititally comes here for the same reason we all did. I can honestly say that I'm so glad I was a part of this board before all of the EAL shiit started going down.
I know this is a topic that has been brought up before (and beaten to death) but I can honestly and knowingly say that I'm not the only one who is STILL bothered by it.
See ya'll at the shower! I'll have a comment box sitting next to me regarding your thoughts.
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The thread was addressed to 'ME' it had my name, it wasnt bringing attention to everyone to know hey look we have an eal and this is who it is, infact all that was said was hahahaha she hasnt come back. EVERYONE else wanted to know and thats how they knew.
People didn't have to read it or ask questions about who it was if they didn't want to know.
When ppl start im'ing other liw'ers and spreading rumors and trying to get into your personal life sorry but its different. I am kinda tired of it a this point, i was fine about it the first 2 times this happened and laughed it off and didn't care, now its getting to be too much.
Thats what Im saying. I guess the whole thing could have been avoided if I just FMed you. But I was trying to see if this person would post again. Which she hasnt. No one attacked her right away either. It was after she posted the pic and we told her she looked familiar that she stopped.
I know alot of girls on here realized she was NO real bride, COME ON. And that babylove girl, COME ON. I would never call someone out when they have 1 post or 100 but this girl made is obvious, where are the EAL monitors when you need them.
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AND we never attacked the girl personally in a thread, and say things to her that she is fake.
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The thread was addressed to 'ME' it had my name, it wasnt bringing attention to everyone to know hey look we have an eal and this is who it is, infact all that was said was hahahaha she hasnt come back. EVERYONE else wanted to know and thats how they knew.
People didn't have to read it or ask questions about who it was if they didn't want to know.
When ppl start im'ing other liw'ers and spreading rumors and trying to get into your personal life sorry but its different. I am kinda tired of it a this point, i was fine about it the first 2 times this happened and laughed it off and didn't care, now its getting to be too much.
Thats what Im saying. I guess the whole thing could have been avoided if I just FMed you. But I was trying to see if this person would post again. Which she hasnt. No one attacked her right away either. It was after she posted the pic and we told her she looked familiar that she stopped.
wow, & i wrote that on there kidding around (about fming), i didn't think it was an attack on a newbie...i always ignore the eal b.s. for that reason but in this case it was a person i specifically thought was WEIRD & had a feeling so i chimed in with no malice intended
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Ok, so I saw this quote today and went on overload. And ya know what? I don't care if this causes drama. Because I feel like it has to be said. So feel free to 'drama llama, alpaca, douchebag alert, whatever' me.
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Ok so when I change all my stuff, don't associate me a a fake ok. I don't want to get on here one day and read 'Randi' what a wierdo that girl is!
Thats the kind of thing that makes me really mad.
But who are WE to decide who is real and who isn't? It's not fair that someone like Randi is afraid that us (the 08ers) are going to shun her and make her feel like she's not a real bride...
My problem is that I really love the girls who I think are kind of policing the boards (seriously, I really do - you guys crack me up) - but at the same time I get really frustrated and think it isn't fair to some of the new girls on here (like Randi - sorry to be using you as an example, but I feel bad that you're concerned about changing your info on here!).
I mean, all we can go on are assumptions about other people. We don't actually know who these people are or what their situation is. I remember one girl on here made a huge mess of the boards, but I really think she just didn't know how to communicate with everyone. I don't necessarily think she was a lurker or someone coming on here to cause harm to anyone I just don't think she could get her points across the right way (things can be interpreted so many different ways on here).
These boards are filled with people with tons of different personalities. I remember when I started posting on here I was really nervous and uncomfortable. I probably made some dumbass comments and made enemies on day one...but I can't IMAGINE how I would have felt if I was 'welcomed' by people calling me out as a fake bride.
Try to remember how you felt after getting engaged. You were excited and wanted to share with the world and you joined LIW to make a network of friends who could support you. So to have someone come out (who doesn't know you at all) and say that you aren't 'real?' And then 15 other people jump in and bully you?
I'm not saying that there havent been fake brides. Sure - there have been. But all I'm saying is that for those of you who were here during the Karen thing, remeber that she was sabatoging her OWN wedding so that people on here would pay attention to her. All she wanted was attention. No malice. Just attention.
So I guess I just needed to get it out there and let people know that it's ok to come on here and post.
Just because you have only 10 posts on here and start talking negatively about a vendor doesn't mean you're fake. Just because you're indecisive about booking a hall and change your mind a few times doesn't mean you're fake. And no one has the right on here to come out and say you are. You're as welcome on these boards as anyone else. So post away and don't feel uncomfortable doing so.
Ok, that's it. Thanks.
thats all im going to say because frankly worrying about EALs on a website is so stupid. I have better things to worry about. Im not on here to be the EAL police, Im here to post about weddings. Theres been too many posts about EALS and llama drama and too little posts about weddings.
Im gonna say it again, I only remember two cases in the past couple of months. And Im on a lot.
theres been quite a few...just only like 2-3 turned into big issues
I guess I dont notice the little ones cause it wouldnt make sense to let that get to me. Well, nothing really gets to me on a message board. I think its a little exaggerated about there not being enough talk about weddings. Go through the last 5 pages and its all about weddings...
oo I know, in my 2nd response I mentioned how those EAL threads are the ones getting sooo many replies and go on for like 10 pages but wedding posts dont get anything near that
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Yea there was more to the story this time. Thats why I posted it. Or else I would have never started a post like that.
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The thread was addressed to 'ME' it had my name, it wasnt bringing attention to everyone to know hey look we have an eal and this is who it is, infact all that was said was hahahaha she hasnt come back. EVERYONE else wanted to know and thats how they knew.
People didn't have to read it or ask questions about who it was if they didn't want to know.
When ppl start im'ing other liw'ers and spreading rumors and trying to get into your personal life sorry but its different. I am kinda tired of it a this point, i was fine about it the first 2 times this happened and laughed it off and didn't care, now its getting to be too much.
denise i almost hate to ask..but what happened??
thats the thing ppl dont know, honestly it was a 'DENISE' hahahaha she didnt come back thread, not everybody look we have an eal. We wouldve never said who it was if we werent asked constantly about who it was. It has to do with the whole IM thing, and the same day this girl is posting she ALSO im'ed me but STILL hasn't answered my emails
wow im sorry that *****! I want you to know that i have your back though! im sick of people starting crap with you..
yeah and im sorry but from now on when i see brides who get married at oheka but ONLY talk about JT and ask tons of questions about JT and have the same wedding date as last times i am going to be suspicious, even when i saw all this i kept my mouth shut, didnt even make a thread to point it out to anyone, a handful of us talked about it on FM and thats it. DIdnt even say anything to the girl on any threads or try to call her out.
Thank you Kristin
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Posted by beachbum05
Ok, so I saw this quote today and went on overload. And ya know what? I don't care if this causes drama. Because I feel like it has to be said. So feel free to 'drama llama, alpaca, douchebag alert, whatever' me.
Posted by Randilotus
Ok so when I change all my stuff, don't associate me a a fake ok. I don't want to get on here one day and read 'Randi' what a wierdo that girl is!
Thats the kind of thing that makes me really mad.
But who are WE to decide who is real and who isn't? It's not fair that someone like Randi is afraid that us (the 08ers) are going to shun her and make her feel like she's not a real bride...
My problem is that I really love the girls who I think are kind of policing the boards (seriously, I really do - you guys crack me up) - but at the same time I get really frustrated and think it isn't fair to some of the new girls on here (like Randi - sorry to be using you as an example, but I feel bad that you're concerned about changing your info on here!).
I mean, all we can go on are assumptions about other people. We don't actually know who these people are or what their situation is. I remember one girl on here made a huge mess of the boards, but I really think she just didn't know how to communicate with everyone. I don't necessarily think she was a lurker or someone coming on here to cause harm to anyone I just don't think she could get her points across the right way (things can be interpreted so many different ways on here).
These boards are filled with people with tons of different personalities. I remember when I started posting on here I was really nervous and uncomfortable. I probably made some dumbass comments and made enemies on day one...but I can't IMAGINE how I would have felt if I was 'welcomed' by people calling me out as a fake bride.
Try to remember how you felt after getting engaged. You were excited and wanted to share with the world and you joined LIW to make a network of friends who could support you. So to have someone come out (who doesn't know you at all) and say that you aren't 'real?' And then 15 other people jump in and bully you?
I'm not saying that there havent been fake brides. Sure - there have been. But all I'm saying is that for those of you who were here during the Karen thing, remeber that she was sabatoging her OWN wedding so that people on here would pay attention to her. All she wanted was attention. No malice. Just attention.
So I guess I just needed to get it out there and let people know that it's ok to come on here and post.
Just because you have only 10 posts on here and start talking negatively about a vendor doesn't mean you're fake. Just because you're indecisive about booking a hall and change your mind a few times doesn't mean you're fake. And no one has the right on here to come out and say you are. You're as welcome on these boards as anyone else. So post away and don't feel uncomfortable doing so.
Ok, that's it. Thanks.
thats all im going to say because frankly worrying about EALs on a website is so stupid. I have better things to worry about. Im not on here to be the EAL police, Im here to post about weddings. Theres been too many posts about EALS and llama drama and too little posts about weddings.
Im gonna say it again, I only remember two cases in the past couple of months. And Im on a lot.
theres been quite a few...just only like 2-3 turned into big issues
I guess I dont notice the little ones cause it wouldnt make sense to let that get to me. Well, nothing really gets to me on a message board. I think its a little exaggerated about there not being enough talk about weddings. Go through the last 5 pages and its all about weddings...
oo I know, in my 2nd response I mentioned how those EAL threads are the ones getting sooo many replies and go on for like 10 pages but wedding posts dont get anything near that
I can see that but honestly how many pages can 'What RH should I choose' or 'What were you quoted for flowers' go. A lot of people have been on here a long time and Ive only been here like 6 months a lot of the wedding posts become repetetive. Ive answered the same things a lot! Sometimes the switch up gets people posting. And were all women, we love to gossip. I dont think weve scared anyone away. There was one newbie that I think was attacked that shouldnt have been. But all the other ones have been embraced and welcomed.
Ah whatever, its really not that serious. Its just a message board. And honestly I have fun posting on here regardless of what some people consider drama. I have too much drama in my own life to let a message board add to that
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this is a spinoff to the 'Denise' thread, not another 'Denise' thread.
they're not talking about JUST this time.
it's been going on for a while now. since karen.
it's carrying over onto the BHB board too. the one bride who was happy with her photographer Dan Wagner..... guess what - a whole tribe of 08ers were like FAKE, FAKE, FAKE when she was just really excited about her photos. if someone knows what I'm talking about, please link it...
frigging Ron had to come on and be like, no, girls, she's real.
it's just ridiculous.
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theres been quite a few...just only like 2-3 turned into big issues
I guess I dont notice the little ones cause it wouldnt make sense to let that get to me. Well, nothing really gets to me on a message board. I think its a little exaggerated about there not being enough talk about weddings. Go through the last 5 pages and its all about weddings...
oo I know, in my 2nd response I mentioned how those EAL threads are the ones getting sooo many replies and go on for like 10 pages but wedding posts dont get anything near that
Were you here for the Karen thing? There were several threads on all the boards about it for several days. The 'let's stop talking about this' thread. The 'Have you seen the drama on the '08 board' thread. It gets ridiculous, like how I'm assuming the Denise EAL thread is still going on. Let's see, not to long after that the Karen thing we had the 'I hate Espo' fiasco... And when we are fresh out of LIW drama someone goes to TheKnot.com and starts talking about drama there.... So yeah it gets annoying.
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Speaking for myself personally, I wasn't directing my post at you, Denise.
My intention was just to say that in the majority of these cases the person ISNT hurting anyone and people hunt them down - which isn't right.
In this instance, yes, personal attacks are not right and you have the right to defend yourself. I wouldn't let anyone talk shizzle about me/fish for information about me.
But other people who have come on here that have made dumbass comments but are not out to hurt anyone? In those instances, the third degree isn't necessary.
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this is a spinoff to the 'Denise' thread, not another 'Denise' thread.
they're not talking about JUST this time.
it's been going on for a while now. since karen.
it's carrying over onto the BHB board too. the one bride who was happy with her photographer Dan Wagner..... guess what - a whole tribe of 08ers were like FAKE, FAKE, FAKE when she was just really excited about her photos. if someone knows what I'm talking about, please link it...
frigging Ron had to come on and be like, no, girls, she's real.
it's just ridiculous.
I do agree and i think its ridiculous seriously...but this time we didn't do that...it was more of an inside joke type thread, but everyone kept asking...All she said was 'denise i guess our famous friend never came back' we didnt call anybody out, or bring it to anyones attention. Nor did we say anything to the girl when she was posting, but uhmmm stopped after she posted a pic of herself and wanted to know why it was fuzzy and we were saying well its a gif file, why? and maybe changing the pic or something...i guess she realized when we pointed it out that its a gif that its weird...She was posting alot up until then
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theres been quite a few...just only like 2-3 turned into big issues
I guess I dont notice the little ones cause it wouldnt make sense to let that get to me. Well, nothing really gets to me on a message board. I think its a little exaggerated about there not being enough talk about weddings. Go through the last 5 pages and its all about weddings...
oo I know, in my 2nd response I mentioned how those EAL threads are the ones getting sooo many replies and go on for like 10 pages but wedding posts dont get anything near that
Were you here for the Karen thing? There were several threads on all the boards about it for several days. The 'let's stop talking about this' thread. The 'Have you seen the drama on the '08 board' thread. It gets ridiculous, like how I'm assuming the Denise EAL thread is still going on. Let's see, not to long after that the Karen thing we had the 'I hate Espo' fiasco... And when we are fresh out of LIW drama someone goes to TheKnot.com and starts talking about drama there.... So yeah it gets annoying.
yea and lol those 'lets stop talking' threads are the best cuz those wind up being alot of pages too.
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this is a spinoff to the 'Denise' thread, not another 'Denise' thread.
they're not talking about JUST this time.
it's been going on for a while now. since karen.
it's carrying over onto the BHB board too. the one bride who was happy with her photographer Dan Wagner..... guess what - a whole tribe of 08ers were like FAKE, FAKE, FAKE when she was just really excited about her photos. if someone knows what I'm talking about, please link it...
frigging Ron had to come on and be like, no, girls, she's real.
it's just ridiculous.
See thats just ridiculous. She was just happy about her pics and right away people assume she's a vendor. But we also have vendors to blame for that. But even if a vendor does try to advertise for themselves, we should let it go. Why attack them for it.
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INFACT-it was just a few girls in the other thread, but now it has been brought to everyones attention and now everyone will know and they will go read the other thread just to see what is going on, but they probably wouldnt have even really looked at the other thread or care to read...We dont mention names or anything until a few pages into it, or maybe 2nd page
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It's entertaining to me that some chics have nothing better to do than pose as fakes brides. Im not going to let that scare me out of sharing the details of my wedding. I posted all my details without a care in the world...go ahead and try to cancel my vendors. You wont be able to. You wanna call and find out what Im paying for something? Feel free I dont care. You wanna show up uninvited? Prepare to get thrown out. Its no big deal to me.
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Posted by Espo22 I do agree and i think its ridiculous seriously...but this time we didn't do that...it was more of an inside joke type thread, but everyone kept asking...All she said was 'denise i guess our famous friend never came back' we didnt call anybody out, or bring it to anyones attention. Nor did we say anything to the girl when she was posting, but uhmmm stopped after she posted a pic of herself and wanted to know why it was fuzzy and we were saying well its a gif file, why? and maybe changing the pic or something...i guess she realized when we pointed it out that its a gif that its weird...She was posting alot up until then
you don't have to defend yourself, this isn't about you and your thread.
your thread just REMINDED Kim of the whole EAL problem.
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INFACT-it was just a few girls in the other thread, but now it has been brought to everyones attention and now everyone will know and they will go read the other thread just to see what is going on, but they probably wouldnt have even really looked at the other thread or care to read...We dont mention names or anything until a few pages into it, or maybe 2nd page
i still dont know the whole story but i'll live.
i just gotta say you have every right to be upset if someone is affecting your personal life.
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Posted by Espo22 I do agree and i think its ridiculous seriously...but this time we didn't do that...it was more of an inside joke type thread, but everyone kept asking...All she said was 'denise i guess our famous friend never came back' we didnt call anybody out, or bring it to anyones attention. Nor did we say anything to the girl when she was posting, but uhmmm stopped after she posted a pic of herself and wanted to know why it was fuzzy and we were saying well its a gif file, why? and maybe changing the pic or something...i guess she realized when we pointed it out that its a gif that its weird...She was posting alot up until then
you don't have to defend yourself, this isn't about you and your thread.
your thread just REMINDED Kim of the whole EAL problem.
YES I know were not getting personally attacked but just saying in general. But when its titled the Denise EAL thread then it has to do with our thread, we didnt do what others do and call it out, we talked about it amongst ourselves. I think its 100% wrong to do this to other ppl and the whole EAL situation, and i just dont want to be associated with that and with those actions...You and others might not look at me personally but someone new not knowing alot comes on here theyll see this and it looks like i call ppl out lol
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Posted by Autumn08 Were you here for the Karen thing? There were several threads on all the boards about it for several days. The 'let's stop talking about this' thread. The 'Have you seen the drama on the '08 board' thread. It gets ridiculous, like how I'm assuming the Denise EAL thread is still going on. Let's see, not to long after that the Karen thing we had the 'I hate Espo' fiasco... And when we are fresh out of LIW drama someone goes to TheKnot.com and starts talking about drama there.... So yeah it gets annoying.
yea and lol those 'lets stop talking' threads are the best cuz those wind up being alot of pages too.
I wasnt here for that stupidness thank God. But I do agree on the whole 'Lets stop talking threads' and the ones like this one that bring attention to another thread that was directed toward someone else. It just causes more 'drama' And I quote drama cause this is far from what I consider drama. Its just dumb. Im going to take a shower now and wash all this eal talk off my body
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You and others might not look at me personally but someone new not knowing alot comes on here theyll see this and it looks like i call ppl out lol
No no no.... I know that. I would think everyone knows that....?
