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conigs25 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 01:26 PM+
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NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

There is an article in todays Newsday about the dog treat/breath saver 'Greenies'.PLEASE read it and DO NOT give to your dog anymore
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JXNOscar Posted: Dec 19, 2005 01:34 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

can i see the article?
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conigs25 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 01:36 PM+
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I dont have it online. Someone copied it from Newsday and gave me a copy. Do you have todays paper or can you get one?
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

Here's the article from the website...

Greenies: A safe or deadly treat?
Denise Flaim
Animal House


December 19, 2005

It is the nation's top-selling dog treat, with $315 million in domestic retail sales last year.

It is so beloved by dogs that amused owners have a nickname for it - doggie crack.

And it is the reason, contend Michael Eastwood and Jennifer Reiff of Manhattan, that their miniature dachshund, Burt, is no longer alive.

On July 22, as she'd done regularly for the past year and a half, Reiff gave the 4-year-old rescue dog his Greenies treat. The next day, Burt was on an operating table, where vets removed three feet of necrotic intestine and what looked like a soft foamy green mass.

Two days later, Burt was dead.

The couple says S&M NuTec of North Kansas City, Mo., the manufacturer of Greenies, sent an e-mail expressing sadness for their loss, and offered to pay the almost $6,600 in medical bills as well as $2,000, the estimated purchase price for a mini-dachsie like Burt. In return, Eastwood and Reiff would have to sign a confidentiality agreement and agree not to pursue legal action.

'That incensed us even more,' says Eastwood, who along with Reiff has filed a

$5 million lawsuit, charging that Greenies are 'unsafe, inadequately labeled' and ultimately caused Burt's death.

Invented by a couple plagued by their dog's chronic bad breath, toothbrush-shaped Greenies are marketed as 'multifunctional dental treats' that, when used daily, reduce tartar by 62 percent and gingivitis by 33 percent. The company stresses that owners feed the correct size Greenies for their dog's weight and follow the feeding guidelines, which say the treats should not be fed to dogs who 'gulp.'

(For toy breeds, young puppies and the chew-averse, the company developed Greenies Lil' Bits. It also recently unveiled Feline Greenies for cats.)

Eastwood counters that Burt did not choke on his Greenie and was always supervised when consuming the treat. 'The Greenie was a foreign object in his intestines.'

S&M NuTec declined to comment on the litigation but disputes there is any problem with the treat's digestibility.

'The digestibility testing that we have with Greenies shows them to be more digestible than the average dry dog food when adequately chewed ... ' reads the company's e-mailed statement. 'If a dog swallows a large piece of Greenies, or a whole treat, the digestion process will be extended because of the decrease of treat surface area to digestive liquids and stomach action.'

Veterinarian Brendan McKiernan of Wheat Ridge, Colo., a board-certified internist, disagrees. 'They don't dissolve in the stomach,' he says. 'When we take them out, they're not digested. And they are causing both esophageal and intestinal problems in dogs to an extent that is concerning.'

S&M NuTec says Greenies obstructions are 'rare,' with most caused by improperly following feeding instructions.

But McKiernan believes incidents are underreported. Earlier this year, at a meeting of the American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine, a group of gastroenterologists discussed obstructions caused by 'compressed vegetable chew treats' such as Greenies. By an informal show of hands, he says, 'a significant number said, 'Hey, we have problems.''

Concerned about such cases in his own practice, McKiernan set out to study reports of obstructions from 1999 to 2004 in the Veterinary Medical Database, which records cases from two dozen vet schools.

The results, outlined in a multi-authored article soon to be submitted to the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, found that, after bones and fish hooks, compressed vegetable chew treats were the third-most-common culprit in obstructions.

McKiernan notes that the cases mostly involved small dogs.

But big dogs have their issues with compressed vegetable chew treats, too. Elaine Gewirtz of Westlake Village, Calif., says she fed Greenies to her Dalmatians and 'never had problems' - until Jimmy went to live with her daughter and started getting more than his usual ration.

The 5-year-old Dal had three bouts of unexplained vomiting. As Gerwirtz walked him outside the vet's office that last time, 'he vomited, and there was all this green stuff.

'I really think it's hit or miss,' Gerwirtz says, noting that voracious chewers like Jimmy may be prone to problems. Still, she no longer gives her dogs Greenies.

It's a decision that Eastwood wishes he had been given the opportunity to make.

'We always felt if this product had fair warning and fair labeling,' he concludes, 'we would never have put our dog in harm's way.'
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JXNOscar Posted: Dec 19, 2005 02:03 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

Horrible! thanks for the information everyone
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johnsae Posted: Dec 19, 2005 02:04 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

we regularly give our yorkie greenies, but NO more - thanks so much for posting!!!
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lipglossjunky73 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 02:48 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

That is so sad - I will have to pass this info along to all of my dog people...
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conigs25 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 03:13 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

NYgirl
Thanks for posting the article
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Soon2BeMrs2006 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 03:21 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

oh wow, we've given it to our dog like 5 or 6 times the past couple of months, but never again. Thanks for the info
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dcpk114 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 03:59 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

wow - we gave them to Harley when he was a puppy, but I will never give him another one. Thank you for posting that!
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SuzBride Posted: Dec 19, 2005 04:05 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

so sad - those poor pet owners and that poor puppy
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nygirl77 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 04:20 PM+
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My dog has one every day. But he has not had any problems that I know of. Now I'm worried. My vet never told me they were bad. I'm very curious about this now. IMy dog will be so sad not to have his 'doggie crack' anymore!
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gina674 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 04:47 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

I had bought them for Bella once and she swallowed almost half of it whole ...It just freaked me out, b/c if I wasn't watching her, I wouldn't have seen her heeving and having a hard time. She threw it up and it was a whole peice.. I have never bought them since....



Does anyone give their pets those Dentysticks. They are long sticks made by Pedigree...???? Bella loves them and eats them all the time, but after reading the above article, I'm a little freaked about about everything now ....
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M&S Sept12006 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 09:10 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

WOW- Thanks for the info! I'd rather be safe than sorry! Thats for sure! No more greenies for my Max.
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lacey&mark Posted: Dec 19, 2005 09:29 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

thanks for the info! we got that for our lil pom once, but never again. ~lacey
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Laura&Phil Posted: Dec 19, 2005 10:08 PM+
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WOW! Thanks for posting that! I have never given them to my dogs and def never will!! I'll forward that to any pet owning friends I have!! Darn companies trying to pay off owners!!
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xcalystax Posted: Dec 19, 2005 10:11 PM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

OMG!
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CrescentBride606 Posted: Dec 19, 2005 11:34 PM+
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thanks so much i gavr my two dachsunds greenies a cople of times ..the last time though one of them got really sick, like vomiting and poop all over....i never gave it to them again...i can't believe it!
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leighdvm Posted: Dec 20, 2005 12:30 AM+
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

Coincidently, we had a dog come in the animal hospital last week that was vomiting for a few days after having a Greenie. We did an x-ray and found a piece of the Greenie lodged and had to do surgery. The dog made it, thank goodness.
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Re: NWR: Dog Owners PLEASE read

OMG!! I just gave one to GiGi tonight! She loves them and she is usually very picky about treats. I was planning to buy her a huge box for Christmas!! Thank you for posting this info, I'll have to get her some new treats.
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