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palebride Posted: Aug 12, 2004 04:53 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet


Posted by myasmom

When I say putting his wife and kid life in danger I meant , he knew that he was gay. But lived a double life engaging in extramarital sex with partners that could possibly have an illness or disease that trusting wife at home could have caught and passed on unknowingly to thier child. This happens so often..Cheating comes with bigger risks than alot of people realize.



hopefully, he was safe about it
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divabride Posted: Aug 12, 2004 04:54 PM+
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Can I get political for a second? There are politicians and even world leaders that have done horrendous acts. We're talking corruption, assasinations, bombings, and much worse!!!! This poor guys has a tryst with another guy and he resigns? Even the fact that he was honest about it and didnt bow down (no pun intended) to the blackmailers show show how honest he is. It really is a shame.
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don424 Posted: Aug 12, 2004 04:54 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet

pardon my ignorance but what affiliation is he?

democrat or republican
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FeliciaDA Posted: Aug 12, 2004 04:55 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet


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Posted by wc0143

Apparently a lawsuit is going to be filed in Nj today by a male Homeland Security cabinet member accusing him of unwated or inappropriate sexual conduct ...




that i could understand....but as it is now...they're making it sound like he's resigning because he's gay.....and that really bugs me!

why would his being gay or having an affair reflect badly on his politics?

sexual harassment, that's another story!



exactly, and well put.

All any of us are hearing initially is that McGreevey resigned because he is gay... that is just a stupid way that the news agencies are posting it .. so he says he's not resigning BECAUSE he is GAY, he CLAIMS he is resigning due to his infidelities... (which isn't the entire truth either, if the sexual harrassment claims hold up)

my entire point being that I don't like that they are saying he is resigning because he is GAY .. that's all any of us are hearing off the bad. And that just seems hurtful to the gay community in general
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Moehick Posted: Aug 12, 2004 04:56 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet

OMG How horrible for the family and for him to have to go through this in public!! It is so sad that he felt he just couldn't live openly as a gay man
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palebride Posted: Aug 12, 2004 04:57 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet


Posted by don424

pardon my ignorance but what affiliation is he?

democrat or republican



i didn't know either - i checked....democrat
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Moehick Posted: Aug 12, 2004 04:57 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet

Democrat
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heidla Posted: Aug 12, 2004 05:00 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet


Posted by FeliciaDA


Posted by palebride


Posted by wc0143

Apparently a lawsuit is going to be filed in Nj today by a male Homeland Security cabinet member accusing him of unwated or inappropriate sexual conduct ...




that i could understand....but as it is now...they're making it sound like he's resigning because he's gay.....and that really bugs me!

why would his being gay or having an affair reflect badly on his politics?

sexual harassment, that's another story!





exactly, and well put.

All any of us are hearing initially is that McGreevey resigned because he is gay... that is just a stupid way that the news agencies are posting it .. so he says he's not resigning BECAUSE he is GAY, he CLAIMS he is resigning due to his infidelities... (which isn't the entire truth either, if the sexual harrassment claims hold up)




The news just did mention that there was the at least the threat of a lawsuit and that is probably why he resigned not because he is gay.


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FeliciaDA Posted: Aug 12, 2004 05:10 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet


Posted by heidla

The news just did mention that there was the at least the threat of a lawsuit and that is probably why he resigned not because he is gay.




gotcha .. thanks for the clarification!

I didn't mean to sound like a jerk but I didn't like hearing the story spread around my stupid officemates as 'wow, he's resigning b/c he's gay.' I kept getting bits and pieces of the story and was sure there was more to it than what I intiially heard
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myasmom Posted: Aug 12, 2004 05:15 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet

I think it is not just one issue. They are all relevant issues as to why he is resigning.

Being gay in politics can hurt some individuals. Sad but very true.
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heidla Posted: Aug 12, 2004 05:22 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet


Posted by FeliciaDA


Posted by heidla

The news just did mention that there was the at least the threat of a lawsuit and that is probably why he resigned not because he is gay.




gotcha .. thanks for the clarification!

I didn't mean to sound like a jerk but I didn't like hearing the story spread around my stupid officemates as 'wow, he's resigning b/c he's gay.' I kept getting bits and pieces of the story and was sure there was more to it than what I intiially heard



I totally understand. I saw the conference and McGreevey was rather vauge himself. I think everyone , journalists included, just did not know what to make of what they had just heard/witnessed.

I feel for him and his family. Most of my friends are gay. I have heard the stories of the difficulties. I actually went with one of my friends to his parents house for Thanksgiving as support for him to come out to his family. He was 25 yrs old. The doubt and fear are overwhelming in normal circumstances, but to have your hand forced must be awful. I just hope that he and his family are okay.
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Jenn524 Posted: Aug 12, 2004 06:42 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet

He was also quite the topic of controversy. I don't think this only has to do with him being gay:

McGreevey's Rocky Administration
New York-WABC, August 12, 2004) — When elected, Governor James McGreevey was supposed to be the young bright hope for New Jersey. But his administration has labored under scandals almost from the start.

His nominee for police superintendent, Joseph Santiago, had a criminal record for assault and was forced to step aside.

McGreevey's unusual choice to coordinate New Jersey's anti-terrorism efforts, Golan Cipel, was ineligible because he wasn't an American citizen -- he's Israeli.

And more recently, McGreevey was tainted by another scandal. His top fund raiser, Charles Kushner, who almost became the Port Authority chief was indicted, accused of secretly hiring prostitutes to video-tape and embarrass a witness in an ongoing campaign finance investigation.

While McGreevey himself was not indicted, he was implicated in that case for using the code word 'Machiavelli.' That word was established by undercover federal investigators to signal his complicity in a scheme to extort campaign money in exchange for help in a land dispute.

At times, the state's budget crisis took a back seat to all the scandals. And at the recent democratic convention in Boston, reporters almost avoided McGreevey. When they did talk with him, the questions centered on whether this first-term governor could be an effective voice for Kerry amidst all his personal and political trouble.



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MrsTC Posted: Aug 12, 2004 06:54 PM+
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Re: McGreevey (Gov. of NJ) Just came out of the closet

HOLY CR*P!! I just read about it on NJ.com.

How embarrassing!!
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